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...and it was nice to take a breath and not have to rely on buzzer heroics, so, I'll give this thing one more try:

- We showed a refreshing commitment to get into transition, and Drake's coast-to-coast forced an early Cal timeout. In general we were looking to run as a default and Eliot's pitch-aheads kept constant pressure on Cal's retreating defenders.

- Bad news about that was Cal has size inside and is notorious for offensive rebounding and they hurt us there when we either neglected to block out, or we fought our own guys for rebounds that were then lost --- happened like 4 times --- somebody needs to be yelling "SAME!". Good news was, after allowing 7 ORs in the first half, we tightened down in the 2nd half, allowing only 4 more, and cleaning the defensive glass with the chances afforded by our defense for a big final margin

- Back to transition, there were SO many times that pointed up the negative impact of not running the Secondary correctly, where a rim-run or block-dive would've given us easy ops. I just don't get not doing that.

- Really good to see JWash shoot the face-up. Now, take some of those open 3s! Lubin also was much more aggressive tonight, I suppose he was inspired going up against his old teammate (and there was some talking going on between them). Withers also gave good energy off the bench and Brown got a little run.

- We looked a bit clunky in half-court sets for a couple of reasons that I could see: First, Cal had clearly scouted the NCState film (especially in two-man game stuff) and committed to anticipating the pass, and second, our guys were not at all crisp or decisive in cuts and/or rolls. As a result of these factors, on a few occasions both EC and RJ ended passing to where they thought someone was gonna be, or forced to guys who were covered.

- I liked the 2nd half intensity and effort to extend the lead without any long lull. That showed itself early in the half when Eliot's dumbass frustration foul sent him to the bench with 3. After we let them pull it to 6, we stayed aggressive and guys started hitting shots. Speaking of that, Ian has assumed the get-us-a-bucket role that RJ was always counted on for --- kid has an uncanny knack for willing that ball into the basket.

- On a night with few whistles, good to see us get back to good FT shooting --- 12/13

- Seth is starting to look more like himself and Lubin had probably his best game here,

- OK... as I've been trying to get across, (despite tired narratives to the contrary) we are becoming a much-improved defensive team. We showed it tonight, and particularly the number we did on the ACC's leading scorer. And if you watched, it wasn't any one defender --- he had to deal with being passed off and confronted with a phalanx of our guys 1-thru-4. As we know, we're still vulnerable to bruisers in the post, but the best way to deal with them is snap-help to force dribble pickups outside the block (note going forward...)

- One last head-scratcher is about what we're doing with Tyson. So, he gets in a few minutes the first half, gets wide open in the corner in transition but RJ has his head down and misses him, then he breaks open for a run-out but Ian tries to dribble behind his back instead of looking ahead. Then just like that, Cade gets taken out. My point is, we're never gonna see what the kid can contribute without opportunities.

- Finally, this is a team that still has room and potential for quick growth. If everything starts clicking, we are capable of making a night like this a biscuit game. One thing that can still improve is guys recognizing on the fly how we're being played. Example tonight was that it was pretty obvious early that Eliot was Item #1 on their scouting sheet after what he did to State, and if they decide to overplay the pass, well then, take it to the rack. JWash still needs to get even more aggressive offensively. At some point, RJ will find his stroke, so meanwhile, keep playing within the flow and don't force... etc etc...

Anyway, this was a TCB game, and we did just that and got another conference W. The same and more needs to be our goal Saturday. We've found the right starting lineup and our 6th man, but also a lot of guys who can be a part of this. Most impressively, the team is developing an identity on the defensive end, and that is becoming obvious to commentators (if not to all of our fans :rolleyes: ), as well as on the stat sheets. And that starts with the perimeter guys meshing. RJ has quickness and experience, both freshmen are improving by the game in the crucial off-ball phase, Seth has returned as a holy terror, and EC has turned himself into an actual plus-defender. Moreover, we are getting better at fundamental 4-man shell force-and-help principles, while getting some rim-protection on the back end. The key moving forward is to, well, keep moving forward... :cool:
 
...and it was nice to take a breath and not have to rely on buzzer heroics, so, I'll give this thing one more try:

- We showed a refreshing commitment to get into transition, and Drake's coast-to-coast forced an early Cal timeout. In general we were looking to run as a default and Eliot's pitch-aheads kept constant pressure on Cal's retreating defenders.

- Bad news about that was Cal has size inside and is notorious for offensive rebounding and they hurt us there when we either neglected to block out, or we fought our own guys for rebounds that were then lost --- happened like 4 times --- somebody needs to be yelling "SAME!". Good news was, after allowing 7 ORs in the first half, we tightened down in the 2nd half, allowing only 4 more, and cleaning the defensive glass with the chances afforded by our defense for a big final margin

- Back to transition, there were SO many times that pointed up the negative impact of not running the Secondary correctly, where a rim-run or block-dive would've given us easy ops. I just don't get not doing that.

- Really good to see JWash shoot the face-up. Now, take some of those open 3s! Lubin also was much more aggressive tonight, I suppose he was inspired going up against his old teammate (and there was some talking going on between them). Withers also gave good energy off the bench and Brown got a little run.

- We looked a bit clunky in half-court sets for a couple of reasons that I could see: First, Cal had clearly scouted the NCState film (especially in two-man game stuff) and committed to anticipating the pass, and second, our guys were not at all crisp or decisive in cuts and/or rolls. As a result of these factors, on a few occasions both EC and RJ ended passing to where they thought someone was gonna be, or forced to guys who were covered.

- I liked the 2nd half intensity and effort to extend the lead without any long lull. That showed itself early in the half when Eliot's dumbass frustration foul sent him to the bench with 3. After we let them pull it to 6, we stayed aggressive and guys started hitting shots. Speaking of that, Ian has assumed the get-us-a-bucket role that RJ was always counted on for --- kid has an uncanny knack for willing that ball into the basket.

- On a night with few whistles, good to see us get back to good FT shooting --- 12/13

- Seth is starting to look more like himself and Lubin had probably his best game here,

- OK... as I've been trying to get across, (despite tired narratives to the contrary) we are becoming a much-improved defensive team. We showed it tonight, and particularly the number we did on the ACC's leading scorer. And if you watched, it wasn't any one defender --- he had to deal with being passed off and confronted with a phalanx of our guys 1-thru-4. As we know, we're still vulnerable to bruisers in the post, but the best way to deal with them is snap-help to force dribble pickups outside the block (note going forward...)

- One last head-scratcher is about what we're doing with Tyson. So, he gets in a few minutes the first half, gets wide open in the corner in transition but RJ has his head down and misses him, then he breaks open for a run-out but Ian tries to dribble behind his back instead of looking ahead. Then just like that, Cade gets taken out. My point is, we're never gonna see what the kid can contribute without opportunities.

- Finally, this is a team that still has room and potential for quick growth. If everything starts clicking, we are capable of making a night like this a biscuit game. One thing that can still improve is guys recognizing on the fly how we're being played. Example tonight was that it was pretty obvious early that Eliot was Item #1 on their scouting sheet after what he did to State, and if they decide to overplay the pass, well then, take it to the rack. JWash still needs to get even more aggressive offensively. At some point, RJ will find his stroke, so meanwhile, keep playing within the flow and don't force... etc etc...

Anyway, this was a TCB game, and we did just that and got another conference W. The same and more needs to be our goal Saturday. We've found the right starting lineup and our 6th man, but also a lot of guys who can be a part of this. Most impressively, the team is developing an identity on the defensive end, and that is becoming obvious to commentators (if not to all of our fans :rolleyes: ), as well as on the stat sheets. And that starts with the perimeter guys meshing. RJ has quickness and experience, both freshmen are improving by the game in the crucial off-ball phase, Seth has returned as a holy terror, and EC has turned himself into an actual plus-defender. Moreover, we are getting better at fundamental 4-man shell force-and-help principles, while getting some rim-protection on the back end. The key moving forward is to, well, keep moving forward... :cool:
Spot on gary-7, and thanks for the breakdown! I don’t get deal with Tyson either. The staff had to have scouted him and saw enough to get him on board here. It appears that he lacks confidence, and the staff and players lack confidence in him as well. I hope in film that the staff will correct RJ and Ian as you noted in detail in your breakdown with regards to missing him wide open. Good win and let’s continue to get better and trend upward! As always, Go Heels!
 
Hubert agreed with a lot you said in his post game comments. I see the confidence of JWash growing and was also yelling for him to take the three. If he starts hitting those, that would change our game dramatically. (He needs 10-15 lbs of muscle between this year and next if possible.) Seth looked like himself. Ian, well, the kid is just amazing. Eliott still does some dumb things but the kid is a pure PG. He is showing signs of growth which we expect of a kid so young. Lubin had a great game. And, as you said, our rotation is settling into a pattern. One of your best, among many, write ups.
 
👍🏾 Gary, great observations and write-up. Nice to win without toying with the cardiac health of Carolina fans
everywhere. We are demonstrating improvement, especially on defense; quicker lateral feet, switch decisions,
and a higher level of aggression dogging good shooters. When we can effectively turn that defense into
quick points, we’re going to stack up some nice wins in a very weak conference.

Agree with G-77 and gkss about Cade; if there was ever a game to get the guy some minutes, last night
was the one- why not put him in for the last five-seven minutes to try to get him the confidence
he lacks? 🤔

Onward and upward, Carolina! GDTBATH ❤️⛹🏾‍♂️🏀
 
It was great to watch a game and ENJOY it! Like many previous comments, I was yelling at JWash to shoot! He had several open 3 opportunities at the top of the key and didn't take them. I hope the coaches have not told him to not shoot. Still can't figure out Cade. Everyone, not just our coaches, thought he would be a great shooter. Have no idea why this has not worked out. He had lots of chances in earlier games and did have one good game that didn't carry over. That, along with RJ's shooting problems, has forced the coaches to make adjustments i'm sure.
 
We were really good last night both ends of the floor, now we need to see if it correlates when the opponents get better.

We have work do to and it's not going to happen over night but last night is what every Carolina team should always do to an 8-8 team at home.

Ian is really good at basketball.

RJ i think seen last night he don't have to be the only scorer for us to win.

EC was very good only one bone head foul.

I have seen huge steps in Jwash over the last 3 games.

Trimble is back to before injury form.


As far as Tyson goes he's just not Carolina basketball material. Our margin for error is so small we don't have time for on the job training in the heart of the ACC regular season while dangerously close to the bubble. This is what November and December is for but unlike most blue blood programs we hired a coach that needs November and December to do his own on the job training.
 
One of if not our best full 40min games this season, notable growth for each of the last 3 games. We are not there yet but finally we are moving in the right direction, it is about time. The huge thing is our 2 starting freshmen are growing up, they are much better on the defensive end and I think in large part because we have simplified things on the defensive end, premium is now more on staying with your man and switching when it is needed, finally they are talking to each other, finally we are getting help when it is needed and rotating. Had we been able to snag the boards that we actually got hands on but couldn't secure this would have been an even larger win. There were times we had 4 guys around the ball and their 1 guy ended up with the rebound?

Was good to see Seth getting his game back, most seem to be saying he is all the way back, I suspect from what I watched he is 85-90% back, I do see just a little bit of intensity, just a touch of explosion still not there from before the injury. I suspect we see the full 100% back game from him next time out. But a 85% Seth is still one of the best defenders in the country.

JWash, solid game, did get bodied some by their bigs, have to accept that is just going to happen to him and Lubin at times. IT was good to see them get some help, saw more guard stripping their bigs when they put the ball on the floor. Cal is a team that plays more 1 on one on offense, lack a dynamic PG to set the table. I did feel JWit was playing well last night, would not have been mad to see him get a few more minutes. I like us with any pairing of JWash, Lubin, or JWit when we move Drake to the 3.

Cadeau for me had a very good game outside of some glaring bone headed decisions, that foul (his 2nd) late int he first half, come on son, as much as we need you picking up your 2nd with a tick over a minute left in the half, got to be smarter than that. Then he compounded it by picking up his 3rd with over 17mins left in the second half? Some of those passes, in a crowd, to a big man's feet, just have to realize that is way to high risk to make sense. But got to tell ya, when he was in this team ran at a different speed, we cooked and our athleticism, especially of our freshmen finished it off.

Cappy FREAKIN JACK! Goodness, I get the feeling that other UNC freshmen hit that freshman wall, Jack got to that wall with a ladder! Kid said something that defies his being a freshman after our last game, when asked about how much pressure he feels and his confidence he replied that he just was ballin! What that means is he was just letting himself get lost in the game, rather than lost in his own head, that is a mindset you ant from your seniors, to see a freshman say that is beyond impressive. Another 20point game and he is giving us those being very efficient, letting the game come to him and being ready when it does, it is really special to watch. And Drake, even playing as much out of position as he is has quietly become our second best defender outside of Seth.

RJ, I really like that he has taken a step back in the volume shooting, last night I felt he played even more in a way to fit in with his mates rather than over and above them. I want RJ taking opportunistic good looks rather than the heat check step backs we have seen. It is concerning that he missed 3 wide open mid range jumpers. Being honest with ya I do think we are better with RJ coming off the bench for multiple reasons but maybe the largest reason is that it makes us longer in our back court as well as more athletic.

JWash, had a rough 2nd half, struggled with the bulk of their front court guys, missed a couple bunnies, I think he rushed them a touch. But got to tell ya, I am very happy to finally see him putting up those mid range jumpers. I do notice him trying to guide the ball more than relax and taking a solid jump shot, he is not yet as comfortable jump shooting as he needs to be, as he was last season at times, just keep putting shots up in practice and relax, slow down about half a count, and have confidence you will make it. He missed a couple and starting passing up open jumpers, get out of your own head son!

Tyson, sorry but I just am not going to agree that he needs more minutes because his more minutes takes away from guys I feel really have earned them, especially JWit. To me the kid is Justin Pierce 2.0, I think the ACC is above his level, sorry but just my opinion.

IN all, we not only needed this win but we needed to win it like we did, more as a team than hero ball centered and we needed to win it big to send that message to the post season selection folk. We need to stack wins, not win 3 in a row and then play a clunker, need to keep moving upward, no step backs now.
 
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I need EC to take wide open 15 ft jumpers.

WTH is he working on during the summer. Doesn't seem like much other just playing the position.
 
Seth must have really taken a knock but he’s definitely back. I know they weren’t very good but he and EC showed some great scoring chops last night. Not many times you see RJ shy away from shooting lol but he did a few times after he realized it wasn’t there. Played the point well when needed in the second half but they need him hitting shots and EC directing traffic. Ian equals dog and our bigs were better.
Wash needs to let it fly from deep again but I really liked his confidence on short turnarounds and showing some aggression. Still some head scratching passes and lapses on easy help defense but considering the changes on lineups they are still learning each others tendencies. I don’t get Tyson’s lack of play, especially against the team we just played. With that said I also am not in practice. Hd and the coaching staff see something or don’t see something there. I guess it would be different if he was automatic from deep or a great defender. At this level you get, or don’t get playing time based on ability that’s known and shown, not because you’re a good guy(get) or we don’t like you(don’t). The caliber of player he’s facing now is better but hard to watch a kid not even get to shoot that’s hit them before. I think he’ll be better and a better fit next year if he stays of course.
 
One last head-scratcher is about what we're doing with Tyson. So, he gets in a few minutes the first half, gets wide open in the corner in transition but RJ has his head down and misses him, then he breaks open for a run-out but Ian tries to dribble behind his back instead of looking ahead. Then just like that, Cade gets taken out. My point is, we're never gonna see what the kid can contribute without opportunities.
I agree. He went 1-1 and, iirc, that was entirely his own hard work. When he was on the floor, he looked like he knew what he was doing and did it well. That wasn't true earlier but is now.

Could Tyson become a reliable threat if we played him more? Who knows? I hope I'm wrong but it doesn't look like we're going to try to make that work.

I expect him to transfer somewhere that's a better fit.

I wonder how Cade feels about it? He isn't showing any signs of being a disgruntled player; but I might in his shoes.
 
Thanks for the thorough write up G-7!

That was a fun game and I loved the defensive adjustment to quickly double their Big when he tried to dribble. I think they allowed him to back JWash and Lubin down a few times, but mostly attacked by his second/third dribble! I cannot figure out three things though. 1. What is the deal with Lubin's hands? He works hard to get in position and gets his hands on rebounds only to lose out to opponents. He also either isn't ready for some passes or simply can't make tough catches in traffic. 2. EC continues to make some very difficult passes and while I applaud his vision, he has to realize situations ( IE-Lubin and JWash are not going to catch those low offerings in traffic) and see who he is passing to and where they are. 3. Tyson in general. I watched him warmup and he hit almost all of his shots. Once the lights turn on he seems to be thinking too much and not playing. He gets lost on D at times and isn't ready to shoot on the catch at times. I think it is focus/confidence more than level. But who knows what is shown in practice. Seth clearly still needs some work to get in maximum game shape and he still doesn't have all of his explosiveness but he is very close! I need EC to realize that he isn't going to get calls from Refs AND peeps are going to attempt to bully him! Frustration is a killer in a PG so.....man up and show peeps they cannot rattle you youngun!

Great win by the coaches and players! Tar Heels are on the rise and I hope Saturday is another step forward!
 
I agree. He went 1-1 and, iirc, that was entirely his own hard work. When he was on the floor, he looked like he knew what he was doing and did it well. That wasn't true earlier but is now.

Could Tyson become a reliable threat if we played him more? Who knows? I hope I'm wrong but it doesn't look like we're going to try to make that work.

I expect him to transfer somewhere that's a better fit.

I wonder how Cade feels about it? He isn't showing any signs of being a disgruntled player; but I might in his shoes.
He hit the short shot but hesitated on the perimeter and lost his focus on D a few times. He was in his preferred spot near the right baseline, caught the ontime pass and simply wasn't ready to shoot. The next time he ran around to his spot but drifted out of the sight line of the driver. I like the kid and want the best but he needs to get out of his own head. Is that because he doesn't feel trusted or is it because he fears the limelight? I think he will figure it out but I'm no longer sure it will be this year!

BTW: JWash MUST step into that wide open 3 at the top of the key ! As soon as he starts taking this and making a few, our O will become exponentially better!
 
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Nice performance by the team. Cal came as advertised and they don't really bring any level of defense but it was good to see play efficient basketball on both ends. Good stuff that they made Stojakovic a non-factor because he has some high level skills.

They blew out a team they should've blown out. And good to see some carryover on positive things from the last few games.

Stanford is better, but I think the travel is a pretty significant advantage to play those west coast teams at home. Stanford lost by double digits at Clemson, Pitt, and Wake. They won by double digits at home to Virginia and Virginia Tech. I think it's important to jump on these west coast teams early. I don't think the west coast teams have as much energy to make comebacks in the second half off travel.

I like that Cadeau hunted for his offense in a relatively controlled way. I think this team is better off if he's aggressively looking to score rather than just facilitating.

But I like the offensive identity that the team has formed. It's more Jackson team on that end and more of the offense flows through him. Also, as much as I may downplay Cal... Cal did have a pretty efficient offense coming into the game and UNC's solid defense maintained itself against a pretty good offense (like SMU). So hopefully that continues to have staying power for that Pitt/Duke/Pitt/Clemson stretch.

They're definitely getting better. Good for them.

I do think for this team to maximize its potential this season, they need to get another perimeter threat. It clearly won't be Tyson. He isn't an ACC caliber player right now and whether that's because of his actual game or his mentality, it just isn't good enough right now. And I think someone needs to give them some perimeter punch that they probably expected out of Tyson. Everyone seems to think Washington can. Hopefully he believes that himself. Looks a little reluctant to shoot. "Scared money won't make no money" as a famous philosopher once said. (I don't think he's actually scared, I just wanted to use that lyric)
 
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