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Quick stuff (dook game)...

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...and I pretty much had most of this written by the under-8 of the 1st half --- and then the 2nd half proved my point.

- By the 3rd possession it was painfully clear that they had scouted and were anticipating all of our predictable horizontal actions. Their guys were simply ignoring anything vertical and opening up to passing lanes.

- And when we got 1/5 and/or 5/1 mismatches on like 8 different occasions before the under-8, instead of letting those guys take advantage, we've got other guys running around in semi-crcles or crossing the ball-handler and getting in the damn way. For pete's sake, opponents can see our "zoom" actions coming down I-40.

- But there's a LARGER question: Why in the hell would you start our smallest iineup against the biggest team in D1 unless you're gonna PRESS? And why use mid-post doubles on Flagg when it just opens up shooters without stressing the ball to any degree?

- Those questions were made even more poignant when, in the second half --- LO AND BEHOLD --- we legitmately went MULTIPLE, mixing Zone and 40, and mostly successfully. Of course we stubbornly waited until precious minutes had ticked off. Still, we beat them by 5 in the 2nd half and believe me, dook was NOT coasting. I'm not into moral victories --- I'm into LEARNING --- and all I can hope is the staff damn well learned something for the rest of the schedule.

- We also eventually played our best offensive ball late when we started using VERTICAL initiations from the key. Some of the actions that got Drake in space for a vertical drive, for example, worked very well.

- But back to the defensive end, look, us trying to be stubbornly in Man vs dook is a loser. For one thing, bless his heart, there is nobody in the dook rotation that RJ can guard --- and hoo-buddy, they exploited that every chance they got.

- Finally, when I wrote that pissed-off abbreviated post after PItt, I neglected to mention the point that this team thus far has had NO IDENTITY. I did notice that @gunslingerdick picked up my slack in the replies and he was spot on. And we've also got Frosh wings making Frosh mistakes on top of our size deficit. My point is, we at least got a glimpse of what this team's identitiy SHOULD be --- be MULTPILE and aggressive from the tip, and on offense, stop with all the called weaves, etc and let play-makers make plays TOWARD the rim. Moreover, make teams guard US in the inevitable mismatches we can create.

- Oh, and one last thing --- once we started showing a defensive identity, ain't it amazing how suddenly the size deficit didn't matter quite as much when we weren't a damn SITTING DUCK anymore, huh? And I'm gonna tell ya, Wash and Lubin started holding their own in the trenches. And I'm also gonna mention that Tyson acquitted himself quite well, and helped mitigate the size thing a bit.

Anyway, there it is. This OUGHTA be a epiphany moment for Hubert. I mean, geez, you gotta know we're starting any game at HIS with a 10-point deficit just from the "treatment" we're gonna get (and did), so why put yourself at a further disadvantage by playing right into their strengths? Fact is, we have personnel who were MADE to be multiple and aggressive --- NOT to be stuck in Man defense. On the other end it's about NOT making ourselves predictable and easy to guard. Stop dicking around horizontally on the perimeter and stress the damn rim. We've got a week to learn. Will we? We'll see... :oops:
 
Great synopsis, I’ll just say this… the 4 guard lineup is not working. Putting Seth on Cooper tells me all I need to know about this coaching staff.
 
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spot on this game gary. we are poorly coached, very predictable which makes us easy to defend. what is most disheartening is to see the apathy set in. we’ve got to move on from Hubert and right the ship.
 
Hubert’s had some galaxy brain strategies in some of the biggest games this season that probably put his team at a significant disadvantage.

Deciding to play drop coverage and going under ball screens against Alabama was certainly a choice.

And while Powell isn’t in the same class as Flagg, that’s probably a better matchup than the 4 guards. I also thought doubling Flagg was a weird choice. That guy is the most skilled wing/big in the country.

Just some odd decisions all season. I don’t take any of the second half stuff with any significance. That’s benefit of the doubt this team hasn’t earned all season.

I also barfed at Cadeau attempting a 15 foot left handed bounce pass off the dribble on Seth’s backdoor dive from the strongside corner. The decision to make that pass was bad. Seth also has 0 shot credibility. Run that action to someone who can actually shoot the basketball. It was really early but that play stuck with me for some reason.
 
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Hey G- have to say seeing multiple Defenses and not just sitting in man and letting it happen almost brought a tear this ol fan’s eye. I have been begging for them to at least give em the change up for the last 20 yrs really, but certainly the last 5! Actually it allows us to play bigger and not expose guys with a lateral quickness deficit. You could see Duke stop and have to think about how to attack what was in front of them. I hope it’s a harbinger of things to come. It might not change the arch of this season, but hopefully it becomes more the norm! Tough night but a little bit of a silver lining?
 
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I don’t take any of the second half stuff with any significance. That’s benefit of the doubt this team hasn’t earned all season.

I also barfed at Cadeau attempting a 15 foot left handed bounce pass off the dribble on Seth’s backdoor dive from the strongside corner. The decision to make that pass was bad. Seth also has 0 shot credibility. Run that action to someone who can actually shoot the basketball. It was really early but that play stuck with me for some reason.
Of course you don't. And for the record, that pass was a called timing play we have run successfully this season. The fact Flagg just opened up and waited for it should have been the first indication they were anticipating our plays.
 
Hubert’s had some galaxy brain strategies in some of the biggest games this season that probably put his team at a significant disadvantage.

Deciding to play drop coverage and going under ball screens against Alabama was certainly a choice.

And while Powell isn’t in the same class as Flagg, that’s probably a better matchup than the 4 guards. I also thought doubling Flagg was a weird choice. That guy is the most skilled wing/big in the country.

Just some odd decisions all season. I don’t take any of the second half stuff with any significance. That’s benefit of the doubt this team hasn’t earned all season.

I also barfed at Cadeau attempting a 15 foot left handed bounce pass off the dribble on Seth’s backdoor dive from the strongside corner. The decision to make that pass was bad. Seth also has 0 shot credibility. Run that action to someone who can actually shoot the basketball. It was really early but that play stuck with me for some reason.
I also should say that I’m not solely blaming Hubert. This has been a failure from coach to the last man on the roster.

I’m probably being a bit reactionary to this game specifically. The reality is this team was at such a disadvantage compare to Duke’s size and length. But it’s disappointing it got to this point.

I personally don’t see anything changing. This team just doesn’t fit very well together and doesn’t have a ton of versatility. But they still have opportunities ahead of them so hopefully the find something over the next coming days.
 
Interesting, on a night where the whole team was literally torched by being out matched and coached, one would think the first player called out would be our savant point guard who gave the other team several extra possessions. But instead the coaches predictable action and plays were the out for his turnovers. Anywho, lubin played better and Powell came around late. Nothing else was surprising. We made a great run and showed some guts with EC on the bench. Unfortunately he needs to be out there, and playing well, for us to be our best. We made another run late but also noticed three low bench players were in for puke. Maybe something good can from this embarrassment.
 
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How this team can & should have beat Kansas & can't compete against dook or win vs wf or many other teams is beyond me .. its coaching & chemistry issues !
 
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