Boy is an immature millennial socialist. He just needs a mortgage and kids to help him understand how things work.
Do you still live with your parents @uncboy10 ? Serious question.
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Boy is an immature millennial socialist. He just needs a mortgage and kids to help him understand how things work.
Do you still live with your parents @uncboy10 ? Serious question.
Well, the timing of that last "false alarm" was too close to election day and I am sure it made a difference. But, yes, she has no one but herself to blame and the Democrats are complicit as well.
I would have much rather lost with a man who had some integrity and wasn't a total sell-out (Sanders). They made sure he couldn't win their primary. They got what they deserved. She was status quo and damaged goods the entire cycle.
Wtf are you talking about? I've been as critical of Hillary Clinton as anyone on this board. Just because I don't consider her flaws to be a justification for Trump's incompetence doesn't mean I'm ignoring her transgressions. She cheated the candidate I supported out of the nomination, and likely the presidency. I hate her as much or more than anyone on this board. I've made that perfectly clear more times than I can count.
When did I say it wasn't? The CIA should probably shut that shit down
First of all, I'm not a socialist. Which I've stated multiple times. I've paid my own way since I was 19 years old, and haven't lived at home since I graduated from high school, jackass. You can cut that dumb shit out whenever you feel like it. There are millions of people who have mortgages and kids who are far to the left of me or anyone on this board. Obscenely stupid argument.
"It's her turn" was what they kept saying. Like if you're around the presidency for long enough, you deserve a crack at it yourself. They made damn sure no one was going to get in the way of that narrative, and screwed Bernie in the process.
If Sanders isn't a sellout just like the rest in DC, how did someone who basically never held a steady job wind up as wealthy as he is on just his Senate salary?
Supposedly they were looking for a paper trail that would prove that laundered money was funneled back into the Clinton campaign coffers. That obviously is an FEC violation and a federal crime.
Social media is undoubtedly the most powerful tool for social control ever created.
Presumably by keeping all of his wealth and not giving it away to everyone else to pay for their college education. Somewhat of a "do as I say, not as I do" type situation.
People like that are more than willing to tell you how to spend your money, and even spend it in that manner for you. They just won't do the same with their own money.
I dunno. You can ask him, or someone who knows him better than I do. He doesn't strike me as the same "level" of a sell-out as Hillary Clinton.
Are you suddenly critical and wary of wealthy people in government?
I'd like to know how all the free stuff Bernie promised was going to be paid for. Free health care, college, etc. That dude is a looney snake-oil salesman.
You can take all the wealth from the richest in the US and still not come close to paying for the crap he was promising.
You can take all the wealth from the richest in the US and still not come close to paying for the crap he was promising.
And if we are honest, their love of PC caused that as well. No way were they going to allow a "rich old white guy" to beat a woman.
I saw the exchange between Franken and the FB representative. That was an interesting few minutes. Paying in Rubles didn't raise any red flags.
You make a good point about the impact of social media. And, it's not just kids either. There are A LOT of adults, even people well into their 60's and 70's who are active in it. My mom is 71 and she's more active than I ever wanna be.
On that point, I have no issue with politically-active and motivated "average people" trying to influence political/social outcomes by doing what allegedly happened. Especially if ti was a sort of grass-roots thing. Powerful elites are going to get theirs regardless of the outcome.
No not at all. But he was basically a bum before being elected to the government. He can claim all he wants but he's pretty wealthy from something other than government. Hark stated it pretty well.
You an try to slander Bernie all you want, but all of his campaign funding is a matter of public record. He's never taken a dime from corporate lobbyists, and furthermore, he probably singlehandedly revolutionized campaign funding in a way that will encourage grassroots political activism and fundraising.
His wife is a professional with a doctorate degree. She also inherited a second home and property from her parents. What "wealth" are you talking about? The man is in his 70's, do you really think a 600k lake house is that much of a stretch for a senator his age, who also is married to a working professional with an inheritance?
Probably the same oil used to sell alt-right rednecks the gimmick of locking Hillary up, getting Mexico to pay for a wall, and every other "ideal outcome" that was used to gain political favor and pander to people. Sanders wouldn't have actually implemented those things. I don't think he should have encouraged the promise of it, personally. But, just like Trump (and every other politician), their mouths write checks that their actual power cannot cash.
Certainly not... but that's a full college education for at least 6 students that was frivolously spent on a lake house. Now, I have no problem with spending like that, but I also don't try to get the entire country to pay for other people's college education. Practice what you preach.
That was the same with Ron Paul. He got immense grassroots support. He's wealthy for sure. He returned a great deal of his severance as a Congressman. He's not obscenely wealthy. He's sold some books. But, he wasn't in any corporate pocket.
But just like the folks you call "Rednecks" the far left bought what Bernie was selling. What's your name for those Bernie folks?
If being a moron disqualifies someone from from holding office then how do you explain the CBC.
So this debate between you and @nctransplant made me curious about how much he really makes. FTR, I don't really care how much a politician makes .
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/06/ber...n-last-year-and-has-joined-the-1-percent.html
Writing and selling books will get you some $$$
Ron Paul wrote three that I know of, and I own 2 of them.
OK, I wanted to know what to call Boy next time he threw one of his fits and started his name calling. I didn't feel like "I know you are but what am I" would suffice.
This is a pretty interesting break down.
http://www.nonprofitpro.com/article/how-much-do-the-presidential-candidates-give-to-charity/
Well, I supported and voted for Sanders, but I wasn't expecting those things to just appear once he was elected. It's ironic, too, given my support for Ron Paul.
I think Rand pissed off his neighbor.
I think Rand Paul likes to appear to be as principled as his father, but he's not. He's not the visionary his father was, or the statesman his father was. He just has a similar name and managed to get elected int he wake of his father's popularity. I like his views on foreign policy, which is what most "conservatives" dislike about him and only helps to reinforce my belief in it being "right."
This is the problem. You aren't even familiar with his platform. First of all, he never "promised" any of these things. He promised to fight for them. And people believed him because he isn't a con man like donny dotard. He has a long career of fighting for exactly what he said he was going to fight for. He never guaranteed anything. In fact at both rallies I attended, he stressed the importance of congressional elections so that the platform wouldn't just be endlessly blocked by congress. Bernie was unquestionably the most principled candidate if you actually took the time to listen to him speak.
Tuition free public universities and/or community colleges =/= "free college" He essentially wanted to expand the current subsidy for college education so that more kids could go to college, without going into crippling debt.
Single payer health care =/= "free healthcare" It means that our taxes pay for our medical bills, and ideally, the government negotiates prices with private companies to drive down prices. Your taxes pay for any health services that you may require. Most of the developed world has utilized some type of single payer system, and most of those countries rank higher than us in quality and cost of care, as well as quality and length of life. The fact is that we pay more money for worse healthcare than basically anywhere in the developed world.
Bernie Sanders has never advocated taking from the wealthy to give to the poor. Unless expecting them to pay their taxes is taking from them. He just advocated on behalf of working class people. Its amazing how one gets construed as the other, by working class people themselves. Employers don't have a right to tax loopholes or to pay their workers a pittance. If working class people learn to collectively advocate on their own behalf then the world will become a much better place.
Where do you think these subsidies for college and single payer money will come from? I'd rather have more money in my paycheck at the end of the month and let me spend it as I wish. I don't want the Government deciding for me. If someone can't afford college I'm sorry but I don't want to pay for it.
The countries that you claim have better health care don't have nearly the population that we do. You can't discount that.
Here again, I will advocate for my A La Carte tax plan - the individual gets to decide where his personal tax dollars go (by percentages). It would clearly illustrate what tax-paying Americans want to support and what they don't want to support. But that's obviously a pipe dream. So instead I'll beat the drum for the Fair Tax plan.
It's not just the population - as @uncboy10 will probably come back with citizen/doctor ratio. But it's more about the diversity of our country versus the diversity of others. And I'm not talking about race/religion, etc. I'm talking about diversity in values and way of life.
I'd go along with the fair tax or flat tax. At least everyone would have some skin in the game. Just like here in NE, we have no food tax but property taxes are ridiculous. I say add a 2-3% food tax so everyone is paying in. If you don't own anything you've got it made here.
That's the one thing about Single Payer in this country that I don't think will presently work like it works and smaller European countries. we're not the same country. I do believe that we could and will get to that point however.
My premiums through the ACA have gone through the freaking roof.
But we also know that the partisanship in this country would have been flipping out if the roles were reversed.
