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Report: Brad Stevens turned down $70M offer from Indiana to stay with Celtics

KeeLo said:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nc...from-indiana-to-stay-with-celtics/ar-BB1fMVQa

Turned down a 7yr/$70 Million (!!!) deal with the Hoosiers.

That would be over $192,000 per week for 7 years!

No matter how much people (including me; but feel alright with Coach Davis) were hoping he could've been swayed to come here, I can't imagine anything he couldn't been offered would've been sufficient sufficient to make him budge.
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We have a great Coach now at UNC. Stevens is working for and/or in the NBA. Good luck to him...
 
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Anybody else think Stevens will take over once the rat retires? Or will dook also keep it in the family?
 
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DaSheed said:
Anybody else think Stevens will take over once the rat retires? Or will dook also keep it in the family?
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Stevens isn't going to coach at Duke. They will go with one of his former players/assistants and will never be able to come close to the last 40 years. And, who could ever expect anything different? The whole thing is changing.
 
strummingram said:
They will go with one of his former players/assistants and will never be able to come close to the last 40 years. And, who could ever expect anything different? The whole thing is changing.
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...they could easily say the same exact thing about us.
 
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dadika13 said:
...they could easily say the same exact thing about us.
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They'd be right. I don't expect anything close to what I've been accustomed to for... my entire life. It's a totally different situation now. I hope the team can remain competitive and relevant on some level. But, I don't expect to be ranked every year. I dunno if we'll ever get close to another Final Four, let alone a championship. An ACC tournament championship is possible. When K retires, it will never be the same.

I was watching the 30 for 30 about Laettner over the weekend, and Survive And Advance. It finally hit me- just how much it's changed. College basketball used to be really great. As these old coaches finally all retire, it will never be the same.
 
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dadika13 said:
I think you're being a bit dramatic there.
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Maybe... there's no way of knowing. I do know that it's always changing, and the program is in uncharted waters. Davis & Co. may be the greatest thing that could ever happen, but I don't know that. I'm simply sharing my expectations. If I keep them low, then I'm not going to be too disappointed.

When Roy Williams took over in 2003, I KNEW that was the best thing that could happen. And, college basketball was much different back then. It keeps getting closer to a complete reshuffle and new deal every season.
 
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Stevens will never return to college.

Even if things soured in the with Boston, he will receive plenty of offers from other NBA teams and maybe tv opportunities. I don’t think some of you realize that being a head coach in the NBA is 10x better than being a head coach in college basketball. That's one of the reasons Roy got out.

So when we heard Bubba had a conversation with Stevens, it probably went like this:
Brad’s wife: Hi, we’ll consider an offer over 8 million a year.
Bubba: Good speaking with you. Have a nice day.
 
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Stevens will be able to coach in the NBA until the day he decides he doesn't want to work anymore. I don't recall people who decide to go back to college if they have that option.
 
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IU would of upped that offer as well. Steven's is coaching at the top level, other then the pay it is like choosing to coach at the high school level compared to D 1 college. He will return only if he fails, and is not wanted. Not near that at this point. Same with Donovan who some thought would consider. No interest on their part!!!!
 
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dtodd4475 said:
IU would of upped that offer as well. Steven's is coaching at the top level, other then the pay it is like choosing to coach at the high school level compared to D 1 college. He will return only if he fails, and is not wanted. Not near that at this point. Same with Donovan who some thought would consider. No interest on their part!!!!
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I will add that the majority of the posters on this site don't even keep up with the NBA. That's there preference and that's okay. You only have to tune in to few ESPN NBA shows or the TNT NBA shows to find out how the interested the "top" NBA coaches are interested in coaching in college. Right now, none. An NBA coach gets the entire summer off and make more money than 95% of college coaches.
 
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Steat said:
I will add that the majority of the posters on this site don't even keep up with the NBA. That's there preference and that's okay. You only have to tune in to few ESPN NBA shows or the TNT NBA shows to find out how the interested the "top" NBA coaches are interested in coaching in college. Right now, none. An NBA coach gets the entire summer off and make more money than 95% of college coaches.
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And does not have to deal with the inequities of the NCAA, like allowing certain programs more leeway than others. The NCAA, the governing body of college sport, is DIRTY as well as fecklessly allowing of the NBA to call the tune they dance to. Every single one of the leadership should be terminated for cause and given life time bans from any NCAA involvement! The very first to be fired should be Mark Emmert, I have no idea how he still has his job, he has led college sports to ruin, it amazes me!
 
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As steat said above he may have turned that 10 mil a year down but he also has no recruiting responsibilities or vagaries as David said.
He just has to sooth millionaire egos.
 
Indiana is a dumpster fire that still tries to tell people they are among the elite jobs in college basketball....been a while since they've competed for or won anything of note
 
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SJung851 said:
Stevens will be able to coach in the NBA until the day he decides he doesn't want to work anymore. I don't recall people who decide to go back to college if they have that option.
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Pitino is the only one who comes to mind.
 
Archer2 said:
I respectfully disagree. Stevens has a lot more HC success on his resume than Hubert does. A lot more. No one is saying Hubert won’t be successful, but he has yet to prove it. We all hope he does.
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Disagree with what? All I said was the jury's still out on "great" with Stevens.
 
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Butler ... Butler they are on the national scene now....Butler. Stevens is in 2 National Championship games with Butler. Horizon League level when he gets them. Yet Wes Miller is accomplished at that level school that Butler was pre Stevens, with making the tournament a couple times at Greensboro? C'mon Brad Stevens did Herculean work as a college coach.
 
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dtodd4475 said:
If what he did at Butler is jury out, okay...lol
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I was referring to Pitino. He was mediocre in NBA, and came back to college. Cal was worse as an NBA coach, and returned to college.

Stevens has been successful in the NBA, and will likely have plenty of offers if the celtics fire him. I wouldn't blame him for never returning to college coaching.
 
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Just looked up his numbers. He was 56-10 with a NCAA tourney win in his 1st two seasons before his "little run", all at a UNC Greensboro/Charlotte level program. Then went 61-5 with 2 National Championship loses. Left the program as a Big East solid team level. Jury out, on the college level ?
 
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dtodd4475 said:
Just wondering what the doubt is based on. BUT, usually means you have reasons to believe otherwise.
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Notwithstanding that your characterization of the Butler program at the time as "UNCG-level" is either disingenuous or just plain ill-informed, yes, there is a big "but", as in with a career win total under 60 at a big fish in a little pond and yes, a couple of nice NCAA runs, forgive me if I'm not ready to crown someone the combined DNA progeny of Dean Smith and John Wooden.
 
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gary-7 said:
Notwithstanding that your characterization of the Butler program at the time as "UNCG-level" is either disingenuous or just plain ill-informed, yes, there is a big "but", as in with a career win total under 60 at a big fish in a little pond and yes, a couple of nice NCAA runs, forgive me if I'm not ready to crown someone the combined DNA progeny of Dean Smith and John Wooden.
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That's fair enough not putting him at Wooden and Dean level, I wouldn't say all time great either, but Butler has not been relevant since the 60's they were not a big fish. They were Horizon League... Detroit Mercy, UIC Chicago level. What he did was great. Maybe Charlotte is a better comp then UNCG, but not by much.
 
The Pacific is a nice little ocean, Everest is a nice little mountain, The Godfather is a nice little film, and Brad Stevens had a nice little run
 
gary-7 said:
Disagree with what? All I said was the jury's still out on "great" with Stevens.
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Tomato, tomahto. IMO, he’s a great coach. Maybe you think he’s a good coach, or perhaps just a good coach. That’s fine. Opinions vary. I think what he did at Butler is even more impressive than what Few has done at Gonzaga. I think most basketball people would consider Few a “great” coach.

If national titles is your overriding consideration, then neither Few nor Stevens is a “great” coach. And titles should without a doubt be a factor when considering the “all times great” coaches. But no one was calling Stevens an “all time great” coach.

I think your Carolina bias is showing, mine is very evident at times too. But I believe that if Stevens were a UNC alumnus, and had accomplished what he did at Butler, you’d have no issue with me saying he’s a “great” coach. I think you’d be using those words yourself.


gary-7 said:
...with a career win total under 60 at a big fish in a little pond and yes, a couple of nice NCAA runs, forgive me if I'm not ready to crown someone the combined DNA progeny of Dean Smith and John Wooden.
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C’mon Gary, nobody here has even hinted that they thought Stevens was “the combined DNA progeny of Dean Smith and John Wooden.” BTW, I won’t even get into mentioning Dean and Wooden in the same sentence when referring to all time “great” coaches, except to say I feel it’s an insult to Dean.
 
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Tomato, tomahto. IMO, he’s a great coach. Maybe you think he’s a good coach, or perhaps just a good coach. That’s fine. Opinions vary. I think what he did at Butler is even more impressive than what Few has done at Gonzaga. I think most basketball people would consider Few a “great” coach.

If national titles is your overriding consideration, then neither Few nor Stevens is a “great” coach. And titles should without a doubt be a factor when considering the “all times great” coaches. But no one was call Stevens an “all time great” coach.

I think your Carolina bias is showing, mine is very evident at times too. But I believe that if Stevens were a UNC alumnus, and had accomplished what he did at Butler, you’d have no issue with me saying he’s a “great” coach. I think you’d be using those words yourself.



C’mon Gary, nobody here has even hinted that they thought Stevens was “the combined DNA progeny of Dean Smith and John Wooden.” BTW, I won’t even get into mentioning Dean and Wooden in the same sentence when referring to all time “great” coaches, except to say I feel it’s an insult to Dean.
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Stevens is considered to be one of the best coaches in the game today and while legendary would require his proving great coaching over much longer than he has to this point, still one of the best in the business today. I don't so much equate what they do in the NBA to what a college coach does, in my view they are 2 very different roles such that success in 1 does not guarantee success at the other but what the guy did while at Butler was really special. It would have been enough that he got Butler in to the NCAAT but for him to lead his teams as deep as he did, that is special sauce!
 
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GoNtheDistance said:
I'm just glad Gary is back arguing about nonsense after that ass whipping he took at the hands of the Auburn fans/board a few weeks back when he went into hiding like he did here a few years ago after a melt down. Welcome back Gary.
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Unsurprised to see you return to spouting nonsense --- as there's definitely no argument about that.

Y'see, nobody's melting down about anything here. It's just debating differing assessments of basketball coaches --- y'know, what a basketball board is supposed to be about. Unfortunate that you can't seem to participate in that without concocting personal attacks. If, however, you evolve to point where you can?... then welcome back.
 
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We got soooo close to a complete thread without a single sophomoric attack; oh well!

I guess we just can't have nice things!
 
Stevens is .56 win % and 350-275 with the Celts.
Stevens was .772 win % and 166-49 and 2 double digit loss seasons in 6 and 9 losses in last season with Butler.
Mark Few is 630-125 and .834 win % at Gonzaga with 2 double digit loss seasons in 20 years.

I am told Mark Few has an easy path to the Final4 because of his UNCG type Conference , yet the same is never said about Stevens. It does somewhat appear the Stevens had a nice little run from 2007-2010 and maybe the first 2 years were with previous coach's talent and 2011 F4 with an 8 loss team was maybe an anomaly?
 
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