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Reported that Simu Shittu canceled his OV

Sure seems Roy backed off politely from Simi following some exchange of information. Goes that way sometimes.
Now on to '19 and which big/bigs could we entice to CH? David and I lamented that there were not many true centers in the '18 class so we can go all in on a big for '19. Hmm?

Of course, as David points out above, if we get EJ in '18 then '19 needs are not a pressure cooker.

Come on down to Chapel Hill, EJ finish this class out.
 
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Sure, there must be some reason. But what?

Even if he wants to be THE man, he could be that here. Maybe not so easily with Jalek and Little and Coby and some others on the same team, but he'd still be the top-ranked guy on the team - and he either believes in himself or he doesn't.

Maybe he just doesn't think he's good enough to compete against those guys to be best on a really good team. But underestimating yourself isn't usually the problem we see with these top-ranked kids.
No, you're not understand. I know this is hard to believe to us since we're Carolina fans, but not every one who walks this earth thinks UNC is the end all / be all lol. There's plenty of players who end up liking another school(s) more than UNC because it's a better fit for that individual or just feels more like home.
 
No, you're not understand. I know this is hard to believe to us since we're Carolina fans, but not every one who walks this earth thinks UNC is the end all / be all lol. There's plenty of players who end up liking another school(s) more than UNC because it's a better fit for that individual or just feels more like home.
The vast majority I think and the vast majority of us realize that.
 
The package talk for Vandy is Shittu, Garland, and Langford. I think most package talk is usually nonsense but they are at least in it for all three I think. I didn’t think Shittu was ever coming here anyway.
 
The package talk for Vandy is Shittu, Garland, and Langford. I think most package talk is usually nonsense but they are at least in it for all three I think. I didn’t think Shittu was ever coming here anyway.

Yeah, Garlands father said yesterday his son knows where he is going, then Shittu OV is off. Could be a correlation.
 
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Missing on Shittu is a shame. Nearly a perfect fit for us, as far as I could tell (based only on watching his clips).

He would either start for us, or come off the bench and play starter minutes - depending on how our current crop of bigs develops this year. In other words, the next Brandan or the next Marvin. With a good chance of playing on a Final Four team or better.



Why would he think Vandy is a better home?

because Vandy promised him exclusive use of the first shitter on the right ... and Roy would not match the offer because that's his exclusive place to s**t!
(hey, I'm trying guys!)
 
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He’s a big time talent and sometimes I forget that every kid shouldn’t just want to come to UNC. A big in this class would be nice. Is there any EJ Montgomery chatter? After that it’s basically Stewart and Carey in’19 right?
 
Perfect time to get in on EJ Montgomery. Seems that he hasn't made a new, official list since he decommitted. Top 30 big that may not be a OAD.

The offers we have to the '19 Bigs don't give me much confidence.
 
Perfect time to get in on EJ Montgomery. Seems that he hasn't made a new, official list since he decommitted. Top 30 big that may not be a OAD.

The offers we have to the '19 Bigs don't give me much confidence.
EJ is not a Big that fits the UNC mold. Highly skilled but not a strong post game. Not a good enough outside shooter yet to be a Stretch. He is a very good passer though. All things considered I would much rather have Bacot.
 
Thanks for the update Gary... of course, appreciate whispers whilst I never take them as gospel.....
 
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Mikey, I'm gonna say something I wouldn't have thought a few weeks ago: We actually have a legit chance to get Zion.

I'm certainly not counting on it happening, but after what I was told tonight I'll definitely be paying attention.

Trying not to get to hi on him but a lot of rumblings out there that are encouraging. Still think Clemson is the team to beat. But can you just imagine, White, Black, Little and Zion all at once? Throw in any big and look out!
 
EJ is not a Big that fits the UNC mold. Highly skilled but not a strong post game. Not a good enough outside shooter yet to be a Stretch. He is a very good passer though. All things considered I would much rather have Bacot.

I'd take any of the '19 Bigs. But like I said, I'm not confident with our standings. Esp. Bacot.
 
Trying not to get to hi on him but a lot of rumblings out there that are encouraging. Still think Clemson is the team to beat. But can you just imagine, White, Black, Little and Zion all at once? Throw in any big and look out!
Yep. I'm just looking at it as a potential luxury. We can be done right now and we're good, but if we could somehow land a spectacular talent like that, even for just a year, that's gravy. The he only thing I feel confident in saying about Zion is that we are definitely in it. As for the final decision, well, we shall see. If nothing else seems the FBI has changed some things for the better...:cool:
 
EJ is not a Big that fits the UNC mold. Highly skilled but not a strong post game. Not a good enough outside shooter yet to be a Stretch. He is a very good passer though. All things considered I would much rather have Bacot.

Montgomery is listed at 6'10" and 200lbs...

"EJ is not a Big that fits the UNC mold." What is a big that fits the UNC mold, was it Brice who was 6'9" and maybe 185 when he got to us, he wasn't a stretch 4 either.

"Highly skilled but not a strong post game." What the heck does that mean, either he is highly skilled or he isn't but he can't be both in the same sentence? LOL Is it physical strength you mean, if so again we have had a bunch of front court guys that were not exactly body builders when they got to us.

" Not a good enough outside shooter yet to be a Stretch", a STRETCH at UNC, a stretch isn't exactly a fit for the UNC big man mold. Luke is the first 4 we have had since, well since maybe Jawad that would have been considered a stretch 4?

"All things considered I would much rather have Bacot" ? Has Bacot committed to us and I didn't get the memo? FRankly, if I have the choice of going yet another season with the front court we have right now and being able to add a 6'10" 5 star from the 2018 class, think I want the 2018 kid.

Really, struggling to understand what you are saying here, as if you are alluding to other factors but throwing smoke as to the real reasons you may not want him. Geez man, we tar Heels should all be ticked we got Little and frankly, it would not hurt my feelings at all to add a 6'10" 5 star power forward to this 2018 class. He decomitted from Auburn but that program is right now a train wreck, hard to blame a kid for getting away from all that current drama. Is he a bad kid, was he as bad a kid while he was committed to Auburn? Sorry but this strikes me more like you being pissed he left Auburn more than he not fitting what Roy would need.
 
Montgomery is listed at 6'10" and 200lbs...

"EJ is not a Big that fits the UNC mold." What is a big that fits the UNC mold, was it Brice who was 6'9" and maybe 185 when he got to us, he wasn't a stretch 4 either.

"Highly skilled but not a strong post game." What the heck does that mean, either he is highly skilled or he isn't but he can't be both in the same sentence? LOL Is it physical strength you mean, if so again we have had a bunch of front court guys that were not exactly body builders when they got to us.

" Not a good enough outside shooter yet to be a Stretch", a STRETCH at UNC, a stretch isn't exactly a fit for the UNC big man mold. Luke is the first 4 we have had since, well since maybe Jawad that would have been considered a stretch 4?

"All things considered I would much rather have Bacot" ? Has Bacot committed to us and I didn't get the memo? FRankly, if I have the choice of going yet another season with the front court we have right now and being able to add a 6'10" 5 star from the 2018 class, think I want the 2018 kid.

Really, struggling to understand what you are saying here, as if you are alluding to other factors but throwing smoke as to the real reasons you may not want him. Geez man, we tar Heels should all be ticked we got Little and frankly, it would not hurt my feelings at all to add a 6'10" 5 star power forward to this 2018 class. He decomitted from Auburn but that program is right now a train wreck, hard to blame a kid for getting away from all that current drama. Is he a bad kid, was he as bad a kid while he was committed to Auburn? Sorry but this strikes me more like you being pissed he left Auburn more than he not fitting what Roy would need.
No offense Dave, but what in the Wide Wide World of Sports are you even talking about???
My post was clear and concise. He's a skilled tall kid who shows little affinity for a post game and not a good enough deep shooter to be a true stretch. Tell me how that fits a need at Carolina?

Honestly I don't get why we're even talking about '18 players. For me it's Zion (or maybe Langford, although he isn't a need) or move on.
 
Not really sure why people are even talking about this Montgomery kid. Has Roy even offered him? To me shittu not visiting *could* be an indicator something has happened positively with Zion.

Again, a little confused where the talk of Montgomery is even coming from seeing as we still have two of the top 5 players in this class on our board.
 
Not really sure why people are even talking about this Montgomery kid. Has Roy even offered him? To me shittu not visiting *could* be an indicator something has happened positively with Zion.

Again, a little confused where the talk of Montgomery is even coming from seeing as we still have two of the top 5 players in this class on our board.

I beleieve a few national guys predicted Montgomery to UNC
 
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Does Roy really accept verbals?

In my experience, Roy normally requires the verbal to go public ASAP. With Zs pending visit to Clem this weekend, maybe we will know something Sun or Mon otherwise, l think we forget @ Z & Shittu!
 
Not really sure why people are even talking about this Montgomery kid. Has Roy even offered him? To me shittu not visiting *could* be an indicator something has happened positively with Zion.

Again, a little confused where the talk of Montgomery is even coming from seeing as we still have two of the top 5 players in this class on our board.

I'll give you the answer everyone else loves to give when wondering about Roy's decisions:

No one knows what's going on behind the scene.
 
No offense Dave, but what in the Wide Wide World of Sports are you even talking about???
My post was clear and concise. He's a skilled tall kid who shows little affinity for a post game and not a good enough deep shooter to be a true stretch. Tell me how that fits a need at Carolina?

Honestly I don't get why we're even talking about '18 players. For me it's Zion (or maybe Langford, although he isn't a need) or move on.

Gary, if your post was clear and concise I would not have found myself trying to figure out what the heck it was talking about? I am not trying to offend but trying to find out what the issue is you really have with the Montgomery kid. Dang man, when ya say he is highly skilled but not a post player nor a stretch you have to realize that doesn't make a ton of sense. he is highly skilled but does not fit the UNC mold for front court guys, what the heck does that mean because that is neither clear nor concise.

Zion is a 18 kid as is Langford and neither are area of need, area of need, I think we can all agree is FRONT COURT. If we can get a 5 star 6'10" kid in 2018 that is not a problem child then why would we not be excited to consider him? If you have something on him that is not well known, great, share it, if the kid has phony grades share it, if the kid has a handler problem share that, if pearl was going to allow something that Roy will not, by all means share it. But don't give me smoke and expect me to accept it man, come on, you better than that!
 
Does Roy really accept verbals?

In my experience, Roy normally requires the verbal to go public ASAP. With Zs pending visit to Clem this weekend, maybe we will know something Sun or Mon otherwise, l think we forget @ Z & Shittu!

This makes no sense. Why would Roy "require" a recruit to go public before he's ready to? That seems like pure unfounded speculation, yet you state it like it's the truth.

Furthermore, because zions visiting Clemson we should just forget about him?
 
I'll give you the answer everyone else loves to give when wondering about Roy's decisions:

No one knows what's going on behind the scene.

That's my point. Where is there any proof or anything that Roy is even in contact with Montgomery? He definitely hasn't offered him. I get the had a few guys picking him to choose unc but that seemed to be the prognosticators just blindly throwing guesses out there more than anything else.
 
Gary, if your post was clear and concise I would not have found myself trying to figure out what the heck it was talking about? I am not trying to offend but trying to find out what the issue is you really have with the Montgomery kid. Dang man, when ya say he is highly skilled but not a post player nor a stretch you have to realize that doesn't make a ton of sense. he is highly skilled but does not fit the UNC mold for front court guys, what the heck does that mean because that is neither clear nor concise.

Zion is a 18 kid as is Langford and neither are area of need, area of need, I think we can all agree is FRONT COURT. If we can get a 5 star 6'10" kid in 2018 that is not a problem child then why would we not be excited to consider him? If you have something on him that is not well known, great, share it, if the kid has phony grades share it, if the kid has a handler problem share that, if pearl was going to allow something that Roy will not, by all means share it. But don't give me smoke and expect me to accept it man, come on, you better than that!
There is no smoke in what I posted. And YOU are better than to get sucked in by rankings, brother!

Again, EJ is a 5* tweener. He's a 5* because he's very skilled for his height, but plays too much like a Guard. He ain't likely to walk in and grab the 5 position here. He'll be a good-passing Stretch-4 who will need to spend a lot of gym-time shooting.

If EJ came here ---- which I highly doubt --- I'm sure we could make good use of him. But Zion at 4 inches shorter will give us more on the glass and in the paint. Jes' sayin'.
 
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There is no smoke in what I posted. And YOU are better than to get sucked in by rankings, brother!

Again, EJ is a 5* tweener. He's a 5* because he's very skilled for his height, but plays too much like a Guard. He ain't likely to walk in and grab the 5 position here. He'll be a good-passing Stretch-4 who will need to spend a lot of gym-time shooting.

If EJ came here ---- which I highly doubt --- I'm sure we could make good use of him. But Zion at 4 inches shorter will give us more on the glass and in the paint. Jes' sayin'.

It isn't that I am sucked in by rankings, you should know me better than that. But I can darn sure get sucked in by 6'10" and a 4 that can hot a mid range jumper. I can cause that is Brice Johnson, a long 4 that thinks he is a guard, that is John Henson and darn right I am a taker for those. What I am going to have my doubts about is a 6'6" power forward even if he is 250.

Big thing with me is it ain't about what they are or what they think they are when they get here, it is what they become. And if this coaching staff can do anything at a high level it is develop players to be able to maximize their ability at this level of the game. I do not worry so much about 7th for example because I know this coaching staff can develop him in to a big time player. I have seen Roy do this over and over with the kids that were willing to listen and grasp his coaching and I have seen it not really work with some hard heads that seemed to know more than Roy.
 
You recruiting guys.....I was told by a friend that New Mexico is making a huge push for Shittu and might get him in for an OV......seems their Coach is Canadien and has spent time with the young man coaching him.....just curious if you guys have heard that rumor.....would probably raise more then a few eyebrows in the recruiting circles!!! lol
 
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