Do you think he could possibly start next season.And what areas of his game do you think he can improve in.
Seventh Woods next season
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Needs to improve on shooting, shooting, and shooting. Plus work on his shot.
In all seriousness, he does need to improve on shooting (both at the line and from 3) but also finishing at the rim. He can beat his man off the dribble as well as Berry but it didn't matter this year because he wasn't strong/skilled enough to finish, and if he got fouled he couldn't hit a high percentage from the line. He is a good ball handler but he tends to be lax with the ball, and needs to tighten that up. I think on defense he's pretty strong man up, but still learning team work and off ball stuff.
If Berry comes back he won't start next year. If not then Seventh would be competing with Jalek, Kenny, and B-Rob plus any newcomers, but should at least get good rotation minutes.
In all seriousness, he does need to improve on shooting (both at the line and from 3) but also finishing at the rim. He can beat his man off the dribble as well as Berry but it didn't matter this year because he wasn't strong/skilled enough to finish, and if he got fouled he couldn't hit a high percentage from the line. He is a good ball handler but he tends to be lax with the ball, and needs to tighten that up. I think on defense he's pretty strong man up, but still learning team work and off ball stuff.
If Berry comes back he won't start next year. If not then Seventh would be competing with Jalek, Kenny, and B-Rob plus any newcomers, but should at least get good rotation minutes.
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He Needs to improve his loose handle. He won't start if Berry comes back and I'd say it'll be a battle for the starting spot between him and Jalek if Berry isn't back.
The talent is there, he just really struggled making the adjustment to ACC level play. Not the first frosh that's happened to.
I expect a ton of improvement next season.
My only caveat to that is he's been told he's the man since he was 13. Sometimes that really dampens a young person's work ethic to get better.
I expect a ton of improvement next season.
My only caveat to that is he's been told he's the man since he was 13. Sometimes that really dampens a young person's work ethic to get better.
Thankfully dave, Langford is an SG. Woods is a lead or pg IMO. But dang, the kid needs to tighten up handles and work on his shot ALL summer.
Tom, next season, assuming we have Joel back and adding Jalek, not so sure 7th can beat out Jalek for the back up PG role. Just sayin...
You guys are so correct. If we have JBII back and have Jalek, Seventh will sit a great deal. Hoping we can land Langford...KW, Brandon can cover...I would really like to see a kid like Shea get some burn this coming season...
If he can learn to apply his athleticism like Ty learned; improve his decision making; become stronger with the ball; and work on his shot we will not be able to keep him off the court no matter who is on the team. If he figures out the O and the team D he will get starter minutes between the two guard spots. Roy played 4 PGs this year and he will certainly play at least that many next year. 7th could really blossom if he is willing to put in the work!
I really hope this kid figures it out because he could be really good!
I really hope this kid figures it out because he could be really good!
Year after year we have guys who come up from HS looking great - and a sizeable subset of fans confidently predict that they will start immediately, or at least by the beginning of the year, and will push someone else to the bench for all but limited minutes.
Year after year, that doesn't happen.
If you had to bet, you'd be wise to bet on Roy starting this starting lineup at the beginning of next year:
Berry
Kenny
Theo
Luke
Tony
If Berry goes pro, pencil in 7th.
If Tony goes pro, say your prayers.
Roy has shown himself to be comfortable starting a freshman. Harrison, Marcus, Justin. But notice, 2 of those 3 probably wouldn't have started if not for an early departure (Kendall and JP).
Roy has also shown that he will give new guys plenty of playing time. And if they can push their way into the starting lineup, he may slow them down for a while (think Kendall or Joel) but eventually they are given the position.
Point being that Jalek is the latest version of sliced bread coming from HS. He won't start. But he will get PT. And he might start or get starter minutes late in the season.
Year after year, that doesn't happen.
If you had to bet, you'd be wise to bet on Roy starting this starting lineup at the beginning of next year:
Berry
Kenny
Theo
Luke
Tony
If Berry goes pro, pencil in 7th.
If Tony goes pro, say your prayers.
Roy has shown himself to be comfortable starting a freshman. Harrison, Marcus, Justin. But notice, 2 of those 3 probably wouldn't have started if not for an early departure (Kendall and JP).
Roy has also shown that he will give new guys plenty of playing time. And if they can push their way into the starting lineup, he may slow them down for a while (think Kendall or Joel) but eventually they are given the position.
Point being that Jalek is the latest version of sliced bread coming from HS. He won't start. But he will get PT. And he might start or get starter minutes late in the season.
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Shea? I just can't really see that happening. He is pretty far down the depth chart.
A lot of comments about 7th's handle. But I'm not sure it's problem most people think it is.
He's 30 assists to 17 turnovers in conference and post-season play. Not quite 2:1 and not something to crow about, but probably not as bad as you thought.
Moreover, most of those turnovers weren't misdribbles. Most were passes to the interior big where the pass was a little low and got picked off. Partly 7th wasn't used to the caliber of defender he was seeing. Party he was passing to guys who didn't elevate a lot. Party he was forcing and even telegraphing. I suspect that won't be hard to correct. Either he'll make fewer of those passes (like Joel does) or he'll aim higher and give defenders their due.
My biggest worry - alluded to by Dave - is that he doesn't look like a happy guy. He needs to have more fun. Which is sort of a catch-22 - because he needs to start having some fun before he can start having more fun.
He's 30 assists to 17 turnovers in conference and post-season play. Not quite 2:1 and not something to crow about, but probably not as bad as you thought.
Moreover, most of those turnovers weren't misdribbles. Most were passes to the interior big where the pass was a little low and got picked off. Partly 7th wasn't used to the caliber of defender he was seeing. Party he was passing to guys who didn't elevate a lot. Party he was forcing and even telegraphing. I suspect that won't be hard to correct. Either he'll make fewer of those passes (like Joel does) or he'll aim higher and give defenders their due.
My biggest worry - alluded to by Dave - is that he doesn't look like a happy guy. He needs to have more fun. Which is sort of a catch-22 - because he needs to start having some fun before he can start having more fun.
Every once in a while he does something that makes me think he could get good. But he'll have to work his butt off to get in much better condition and show a lot more desire than I saw this season. Could happen.
The comparison you might make is with Justin Watts. Justin actually looked worse than the walkons as a freshman. But he worked his ass off, and did whatever Roy needed him to do - including playing and defending any of 4 positions. So while we might have cringed when he came on early in his career, by the end of it he helped us win or save plenty of games. Rush is taller and might have more natural talent (hard to know). He could do worse than adopt Justin's work ethic and willing attitude.
How many times have you seen Jalek in person?
I'm guessing zero. But way to make assumptions based on zero knowledge.
Please point out any assumption I made about Jalek.
How would you like your crow served?
Agreed on this projected lineup for what we know as of now. I don't see Jalek starting over Berry if he's here. I would say that I could potentially see him starting over Kenny, but I imagine Roy wants to groom his PG ability and it would be tough to do while playing alongside Berry instead of in relief of him.
If we were to get Knox, do you see that projected lineup changing at all? I'd say he'd probably start at the 3 and Theo at the 2. However, I could also see it being beneficial to start Knox and Kenny and have Theo come off the bench in a super sub role. Still allow Theo to get his 30 mins a game - just split them about 10-10-10 between the 2-3-4 in relief of Kenny-Knox-Luke. Even though that'd still be starter's minutes, I don't see Roy doing it out of loyalty and it being a perceived demotion for Theo, even if it really wasn't.
Can everyone stop all the nagging and bitching. We are 4 whole days after winning a NC. Let that marinate for a while and worry about next year when we actually KNOW who we have on roster.
Remember Pinson his freshman year dribbling the ball. It was outright ugly. Seventh should head to the "Point Guard" school this summer. If Berry leaves, I think Seventh wins the starting point guard slot.
He said "he would really like to see it" as would I , because if it happens it will mean he has improved tremendously. He's got the genes , hopefully he's a late bloomer.
That's one way to read it. To me when someone says they'd like to see Player X get more playing time, that implies they think Player X's current abilities warrant more burn. Perhaps thats not what Tom meant.
Ah, the limits of text to convey meaning...
You're sitting here saying Jalek is "just sliced bread" when you haven't seen him play. That's just short-sided.
This kid can BALL.
If we get Knox, Knox starts at 3!
Lineup:
1. JB
2. KW
3. Knox
4 TP
5. TB
Maye goes back to the bench and is a nightmare relieving TP at 4 for opponents 2nd units or tired starters. 7th backs up JB and Felton backs up JB and KW. The rest of our squad will earn varying numbers of minutes by working hard in practice and performing when on the court (especially on D) Roy will start Knox as a freshman because he would lose him if he didn't, he is too good to bench, and the starter he is replacing will not be effected by coming off the bench! Maye is a team guy and will thrive as a starter or reserve!
Lineup:
1. JB
2. KW
3. Knox
4 TP
5. TB
Maye goes back to the bench and is a nightmare relieving TP at 4 for opponents 2nd units or tired starters. 7th backs up JB and Felton backs up JB and KW. The rest of our squad will earn varying numbers of minutes by working hard in practice and performing when on the court (especially on D) Roy will start Knox as a freshman because he would lose him if he didn't, he is too good to bench, and the starter he is replacing will not be effected by coming off the bench! Maye is a team guy and will thrive as a starter or reserve!
I hope Theo, 7th and Williams all work their tails off on their shooting and handles in the off season
Pinson is not going to the bench regardless of whichever freshmen we get. You dont sit senior glue guys who are your best defenders
Yeah I've seen Felton play at times where I wonder how in the world he isn't one of the top 5-10 players in the class. I think it's because he has a tendency to drift and disappear at times. If he brings the right mindset he's every bit as good as any guard in this class. Maybe better.
And I honestly believe that he has not gotten the love and or attention that is due because he has been a UNC commit for a while. IMO
Maybe he will. Junior and Senior yr he will be hard to guard. I also agree with previous post about him not looking happy. Maybe he's just disappointed with himself.
I literally just watched six videos of Seventh, amounting to a lot of time, and not one time did I see the kid even come close to smiling. All clips were from high school so I believe you are reading into this kids emotions. I get it. He doesn't look happy, but heck he's not know for showing that type of emotion on the court. He's not Theo
Nice try. You have heard the expression "greatest thing since sliced bread." So you should have recognized that as a compliment.
What I was saying, which should have been obvious, is that we look at Jalek and think he's really good. Everyone agrees. BUT . . . a lot of kids who look that good in HS nevertheless take time to adapt to college play or never quite meet expectations. Moreover, while Roy will play freshmen if they are really good or if the lineup has holes that must be filed, he generally favors his upperclassmen if they are good enough.
We all know all of that. I just gathered those points in one place to suggest that Jalek probably won't start or push into the starting lineup any time soon. Especially not at point. Even if Berry doesn't return - although it could happen pretty quick in that situation, depending on how much 7th improves over the summer.
As for whether I have seen Jalek play in person, that's just trying to dress up your attack with snobbishness. I haven't but I rely on clips and the comments of those who HAVE seen him play. Plus, I HAVE seen Roy coach and make personnel decisions.
Next time you want to double down on being uncivil you probably ought to think it through.
I'm also in the camp that Rush is not ready & might not ever be before his time is up at UNC. My hope for Shea Rush is that he leaves UNC with 4 National Championship Rings.
I hadn't thought of that. Strong, quick, erratic. Probably would have gotten very good if he had stuck with basketball.
I generally think of Dexter Strickand - who struggled as a freshman but became a solid defender, drove well, and shot 57% fron 2-pt range before being injured. Like 7th, Dex started off as a TO machine, but became a reliable ball handler with 4.2 assists to 1.2 TOs as a senior.
Let's just enjoy the moment all summer and bask in the glow of that championship trophy!!
