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- Big game for our Bigs. Even missing Tony's length we still dominated inside. 20 and 8 for Hicks, 15 and 12 for Meeks w/ 2 Steals. 6 big Offensive Rebounds for Kennedy among those. We out-rebounded them by 20, folks!

- speaking of Rebounding, Buckets was forcing too much and had a rough shooting night but IMO had his best rebounding game ever, getting 10 Boards (5 Offensive) on sheer hustle and determination, and ended up scrapping his way to 19 pts.

- We won this one inside. Shooting 51.5% despite going a miserable 7/24 from 3 proves that point.

- We had 13 Fast Break pts (but 7 of those were late when they were gassed). Biggest concern was only 6 from the Secondary. I'll credit Cuse here. Last season we flat wore them out on Secondary Breaks and they made a concerted effort tonight to get back and cover the spacing.

- I'll tell ya, Theo makes a big difference against Zones. You attack a 2-3 best with Wing entries, and as we know Theo is fearless when it comes to getting the ball inside the Zone, whether to the middle, the short-corner or the alley-oop. 5 Dimes and general good ball movement for TP.

- On the bad side, geez... Lydon couldn't friggin miss --- 11/14 FGs and 3/5 from 3, and we bit on too many drives allowing White wear us out from deep (5/9). Fortunately we were able to finally put a stop to that nonsense down the stretch (see below)

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- We saw the long-awaited debut of Theo at the 2 in the second half --- first with Nate while JB was getting a blow, then with Berry for a long stretch. It looked a tad awkward at first as he and JJ were feeling each other out for floor space, but it finally settled in and worked

- A loose whistle like tonight's is usually not good for us, with a lotta hands allowed down low, so except for a couple of jags of carelessness I was proud of the guys for playing through it. We toughened up on keeping control on contested rebounds and interior passes. If you get soft with the rock inside against Cuse they will wear you out.

- Most of our shaky stretches came from impatience. Right after a nice possession to start the Second Half with an extra pass that led to a KW 3, we went 4 straight possessions NOT making the extra pass and Cuse got right back in the game.

- Kenny and Joel played some nasty defense together, and other than sloughing too much off shooters on drives, our Team D movement was very good.

- Speaking of JB, we know he can create his shot when he feels the need (as he did in the first half), but knowing we needed to stick with our Zone-O he sacrificed his scoring in the second half to keep making that extra pass, which again, is so important to defeating a strong Zone. They were also making a concerted effort to shade him on reversals but they paid for that with easier Wing entry lanes opening up. Joel also welcomed their transfer Gillon to the ACC, holding him to 1/7 shooting.

- And how cool is it to have a 6' PG who can stone their red-hot 6'9 Stretch guy on a key late possession? Lydon thought he had something when JB switched on him. Key thing is Berry made no effort to switch back --- he wanted that gig, and not only did he not let him get off a 3, I was saying out loud "C'mon Lydon, put it on the floor and see what happens!" Sure enough, dog got his hands on the ball and caused a lost possession.

- Our conditioning (and their lack of quality depth) paid dividends in crunch time.

- Personally, my Player of the Game was big Kennedy Meeks. Dude was exceptionally spry tonight and playing some badd-ass defense, even out to the 3-pt line, and hustling for loose balls and getting his paws on Offensive Boards. I think KM really, really wanted this one for Coach.

Great way to celebrate win #800 for Ol' Roy, coaching against his buddy Boeheim. Now let's get healthy and get ready for a trap game at BC Saturday. No time to let up!
 
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3 of our guys really stood out in this what I would call a power win, meaning we may not have been at our most sharp but we powered thru.

Meeks, yet another double double, becoming a good habit from him. It is getting to the point that you really don't know what to expect from the rest of this team but with Meeks, he is becoming Mr Dependable, either getting or flirting with a double double every game. 15pts, 12 bounds and 6 of those being offensive and unless I missed one all his O-bounds were other folks misses!

Jackson, what I see this kid doing really is remarkable, it isn't just that he can shoot, not his best shooting night but we know he can shoot it. What I watch more with Justin is how well he runs the floor, How amazing his cuts are, and what very few mention, his defense can be smothering. Kid is amazing running the floor, those long strides and yet he has after burners when he cuts to the basket. Kid flies down the court, takes a sweet pass to finish and then beats his defender back down court to be in defensive position.

But Mr Hicks was my player of the game in this one, been waiting for Isiah's games to ramp up a little, he has been extremely efficient this season but foul trouble has limited him. But just as much as foul trouble Hicks has not always seemed to aggressively want the ball and look to finish. But the last couple games the HIcks I have been waiting to see this season has emerged and last night was maybe his best over all game for us. He is a rock from the free throw line, really under appreciated jump shooter, and it is a shame he was 2 bounds short of a double double but his 8 seemed really huge.

This was a tuff game on a quick turn, you just don't see another zone the way Syracuse plays it, you have to attack it with precision and we straight wore the short corners out. We did something in this game that we have not always done real well, we gave that extra pass. How about the ball going in to the deep corner drawing 3 cuse defenders and Hicks (I think it was Hicks) gives the pass to a wide open Meeks. How about Hicks gets the offensive rebound in the short corner, turns as if to wheel it out side and reverses for the wide open flush. And if all that was not good enough for ya heck, we will just lob it over the top to Hicks? SWEET !

Theo at the 2, Ok, sorry but I don't love that look, glad the one trey found home but those were some nasty looking misses. Love Theo at the 4 where he can take advantage of his quickness vs bigger guys, he and Justin really seem to click from that look. Just my opinion folks! My guy Kenny, going to be fair no matter what I want to see, kinda scratching my head a little bit as to why he is not more of a knock down jump shooter than he has shown on a consistent basis. he does not take bad shots, he does not rush his shots, the quality of shots he gets to take Joel and Justin rarely see. It looks to me as if he is just not totally confident taking them and he has to get past that.

Solid game for coach's #800, congrats Roy. Now I want to see him exceed his win totals from kansas while at UNC! Isn't it amazing, 11 coaches have won 800 games and 2 of them are UNC head coaches and only Rupp got there quicker than Roy did!
 
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- Big game for our Bigs. Even missing Tony's length we still dominated inside. 20 and 8 for Hicks, 15 and 12 for Meeks w/ 2 Steals. 6 big Offensive Rebounds for Kennedy among those. We out-rebounded them by 20, folks!
Nice write up as usual, Gary. Thanks. Our bigs have stepped up in Tony's absence, and we need them to.

- We won this one inside. Shooting 51.5% despite going a miserable 7/24 from 3 proves that point.
Amen. Offensive efficiency in the paint offset a night when we lauched too many ICBM's, something I was fearful their zone would entice us to do.

- I'll tell ya, Theo makes a big difference against Zones. You attack a 2-3 best with Wing entries, and as we know Theo is fearless when it comes to getting the ball inside the Zone, whether to the middle, the short-corner or the alley-oop. 5 Dimes and general good ball movement for TP.
Theo feeds the post better than any other player we have. His return has made a world of difference. I think sitting on the bench all that time enabled him to study the game and understand how he could best benefit the team. Sooooo glad to have his energy and versatility back in our repertoire.

- Our conditioning (and their lack of quality depth) paid dividends in crunch time.
Our guys appear to be in superb condition. Jonas doesn't get enough credit for helping kids lose/gain weight and getting them conditioned to play Roy's uptempo style.
- Personally, my Player of the Game was big Kennedy Meeks. Dude was exceptionally spry tonight and playing some badd-ass defense, even out to the 3-pt line, and hustling for loose balls and getting his paws on Offensive Boards. I think KM really, really wanted this one for Coach.

Great way to celebrate win #800 for Ol' Roy, coaching against his buddy Boeheim. Now let's get healthy and get ready for a trap game at BC Saturday. No time to let up!
Kennedy had perhaps his best game this year. I called Kennedy an inigma when discussing the team during the summer, a term I've seen several posters use re: the big guy. But know what? He's been steady as the proverbial rock. I said I would be happy if he averaged what he averaged last year(9 points and 6 boards). But so far this year he's averaging 13 points and 10 boards. That's good stuff there, guys. I hope he can continue to play well throughout the rest of his senior campaign. He deserves it. I loved this quote from ESPN's C.L. Brown last night:

"Before taking the court for the second half, Carolina's Kennedy Meeks closed out the players' huddle in the tunnel with a reminder, "800, baby." Roy Williams will likely shrug off the milestone he could reach tonight but it does mean something to the players.
 
Nice write up as usual, Gary. Thanks. Our bigs have stepped up in Tony's absence, and we need them to.


Amen. Offensive efficiency in the paint offset a night when we lauched too many ICBM's, something I was fearful their zone would entice us to do.


Theo feeds the post better than any other player we have. His return has made a world of difference. I think sitting on the bench all that time enabled him to study the game and understand how he could best benefit the team. Sooooo glad to have his energy and versatility back in our repertoire.


Our guys appear to be in superb condition. Jonas doesn't get enough credit for helping kids lose/gain weight and getting them conditioned to play Roy's uptempo style.

Kennedy had perhaps his best game this year. I called Kennedy an inigma when discussing the team during the summer, a term I've seen several posters use re: the big guy. But know what? He's been steady as the proverbial rock. I said I would be happy if he averaged what he averaged last year(9 points and 6 boards). But so far this year he's averaging 13 points and 10 boards. That's good stuff there, guys. I hope he can continue to play well throughout the rest of his senior campaign. He deserves it. I loved this quote from ESPN's C.L. Brown last night:

"Before taking the court for the second half, Carolina's Kennedy Meeks closed out the players' huddle in the tunnel with a reminder, "800, baby." Roy Williams will likely shrug off the milestone he could reach tonight but it does mean something to the players.

Et Tu Brute? Man, bad enough gary trying to take my Joel berry band wagon driving privileges away but now my man Arch taking my Meeks the enigma tag line for Meeks! Ah, tis truely the night of the long knives! LOL

Seriously, it is really good to see Meeks has played thru the issues that hit him the last couple seasons, kid is working his butt off this season and is now a real factor guy in what this team ends up able to get done this season. he has bene just solid consistent all season, others have had great games and off games but Meeks is there with blue collar and lunch pail in hand to put in work every game and I am very happy to see him finally break thru. He seems just happier to be out there, like he is having fun and doesn't have the weight of the world on his shoulders!
 
Et Tu Brute? Man, bad enough gary trying to take my Joel berry band wagon driving privileges away but now my man Arch taking my Meeks the enigma tag line for Meeks! Ah, tis truely the night of the long knives! LOL
I said several people used that expression. Guess I didn't give you credit for being the initiator. Tough, get over it big guy! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, don't ya know? ;)
Seriously, it is really good to see Meeks has played thru the issues that hit him the last couple seasons, kid is working his butt off this season and is now a real factor guy in what this team ends up able to get done this season. he has bene just solid consistent all season, others have had great games and off games but Meeks is there with blue collar and lunch pail in hand to put in work every game and I am very happy to see him finally break thru. He seems just happier to be out there, like he is having fun and doesn't have the weight of the world on his shoulders!
Yes he does. I couldn't be happier for him.
 
Et Tu Brute? Man, bad enough gary trying to take my Joel berry band wagon driving privileges away but now my man Arch taking my Meeks the enigma tag line for Meeks! Ah, tis truely the night of the long knives! LOL

Seriously, it is really good to see Meeks has played thru the issues that hit him the last couple seasons, kid is working his butt off this season and is now a real factor guy in what this team ends up able to get done this season. he has bene just solid consistent all season, others have had great games and off games but Meeks is there with blue collar and lunch pail in hand to put in work every game and I am very happy to see him finally break thru. He seems just happier to be out there, like he is having fun and doesn't have the weight of the world on his shoulders!
More than anything else it has always been about health. When you work as hard as he did to remake his body only to have a wheel go south on him two years in a row that is very frustrating... and it didn't help having part of our own fan base giving him the business on line.

As I posted last year, Kennedy was ready to get out and move on and yet another injury waylaid his plans, and thus he was in a dark place for a bit, but even though they have had their ups and downs, the way Roy stood up for him in the media was a turning point in that relationship. Watching how genuinely happy Kennedy was for #800 last night is the positive culmination of things. He was clearly the spiritual leader for the team's effort and was not gonna let the guys come out flat on short rest.
 
If you look at Kennedy's limitations and all the hard work he's put in to overcome them, it's hard not to love the young man. So glad he's on this team and I would love to send him out with a chamoionship ring.
Yeah, and folks forget Kennedy is a very talented basketball player. Granted, he may not be a gazelle but he was a Burger Boy for a reason.
 
- Personally, my Player of the Game was big Kennedy Meeks. Dude was exceptionally spry tonight
I noticed extra quickness from Kennedy, too. Very nice to see.

Last couple of seasons, because of injuries and illness, Kennedy was slowing down around this point in the season. If he is getting quicker this year and stays healthy, look out!
 
Solid game for coach's #800, congrats Roy. Now I want to see him exceed his win totals from kansas while at UNC! Isn't it amazing, 11 coaches have won 800 games and 2 of them are UNC head coaches and only Rupp got there quicker than Roy did!

I thought about this last night, too..... wondering what it would take. IIRC Roy has in the 415 range at KU and 385 range at UNC, right? Barring some colossal collapse, he should be able to get there by end of next year.

How many years to go if he wanted to get to 900? Lets just say he gets to maybe around 815 this year - 15 more wins this year, which would give the team 32 for the seaon. It'd take 3 more full really good years (28+ wins) to get to 900. It'd likely take him a little more than 3 years after this year.... maybe a 4th year, if he decides to stay on that long.

Of course - I believe Roy 100% when he says the number means nothing to him. It is the PLAYERS behind the numbers, and practicing, and forming them into fine men and building relationships that last a lifetime..... that is really all that matters to Roy. And I love that.
 
In the discussion above regarding spacing (ours) when both JJ and TP were in they both ended up at the perimeter in front of our bench and looked surprised at each other! TP eased out but honestly, I love Theo, but dang it you were not the option for that 3, it was supposed to be JJ's as the shot clock wound down...oh well.
If that is my only grumbling I'll take it and run. The team was very good last night, we need to continue to get strong starts and eliminate the silly lose balls. I have not looked at the box but I would wager our team TO's are getting a little better, as in coming down in number.

Just checked the box, 9 TO's on the game as a team.
 
I thought about this last night, too..... wondering what it would take. IIRC Roy has in the 415 range at KU and 385 range at UNC, right? Barring some colossal collapse, he should be able to get there by end of next year.

How many years to go if he wanted to get to 900? Lets just say he gets to maybe around 815 this year - 15 more wins this year, which would give the team 32 for the seaon. It'd take 3 more full really good years (28+ wins) to get to 900. It'd likely take him a little more than 3 years after this year.... maybe a 4th year, if he decides to stay on that long.

Of course - I believe Roy 100% when he says the number means nothing to him. It is the PLAYERS behind the numbers, and practicing, and forming them into fine men and building relationships that last a lifetime..... that is really all that matters to Roy. And I love that.
Wins at KU: 418
Wins at UNC: 382
Average wins per year: 27.9

K has averaged 26.9 wins per year at d00k in 36 years, for 980 wins. This does not count wins this year. If you project Roys wins over a 36 year period, he would have 1,004 wins, again not counting wins this year.
 
I thought about this last night, too..... wondering what it would take. IIRC Roy has in the 415 range at KU and 385 range at UNC, right? Barring some colossal collapse, he should be able to get there by end of next year.

How many years to go if he wanted to get to 900? Lets just say he gets to maybe around 815 this year - 15 more wins this year, which would give the team 32 for the seaon. It'd take 3 more full really good years (28+ wins) to get to 900. It'd likely take him a little more than 3 years after this year.... maybe a 4th year, if he decides to stay on that long.

Of course - I believe Roy 100% when he says the number means nothing to him. It is the PLAYERS behind the numbers, and practicing, and forming them into fine men and building relationships that last a lifetime..... that is really all that matters to Roy. And I love that.

I am thinking ya looking at 4 more yrs for him to hit 900, don't know that he will but I would love to see him hang around for 1,000.

Adam Lucas has a great article that I read this morning, it kinda said we maybe don't appreciate Roy as much as we should because of having Dean Smith and all he did for the game. I feel he makes a really solid point while not being as blunt as I just stated it. But think about it, I see Roy as a hall of fame great head coach but for some reason I don't see him as a Rushmore legendary coach but easy see Dean as Mr Rushmore of coaches and a guy that is absolutely a legend. Granted, Deans wins were all at UNC and a little more than half of Roy's so far are from his Kansas days but a win is a win and Roy got to 800 faster than any other D-1 coach other than Rupp, means he got there quicker than Dean, quicker than 9 of the only other 10 to get there. That is kinda legendary stuff is it not?

Maybe most do and it is me but I sense we don't look at Dean and Roy in the same light and I am wondering what it will take Roy doing to have us looking at him in the same way we see Dean, if that is even possible? If Roy were to hang around and pick up 1,000, would be hard not to consider him a legendary coach, would it knock someone off the Rushmore of coaches? K is sneaking up on 1,000 now, does he knock someone off the Rushmore Mt? Right now I would say Dean, Wooden, Rupp, and Iba may be the Rushmore but does K knock out Iba, could Roy take out Rupp? To me Dean and Wooden are and should be untouchable, just an interesting thought train.
 
And probably did it with a little less talent than Dean had too. And while Dean coached 9 yearswhen UNC didn't make the NCAAT because we didn't win the ACCT(no multiple bids), we realistically would have only made the NCAAT 3-4 of those 9 years by today's standards.

Regardless, we been blessed to have two great coaches.
 
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Kennedy looks so much more agile and quick in his last 5 or so games. Wonder if he's FINALLY 100% healthy. Both he and Hicks seem to have found a new level, and if they hold it, we're going to be an extremely tough out in March.
 
And probably did it with a little less talent than Dean had too.
Nahhh... I wouldn't say that. Dean didn't start "selecting" until late in his tenure. Roy came back to Chapel Hill and inherited a core class of Felton/May/McCants in the fold. For years Dean had to pull a special player or maybe two in a class and blend them with some just pretty good guys.
 
We're incredibly spoiled.

Indeed, to have Dean and Roy is incredibly special. I think we all see Dean as sort of the master, and rightly so. But Roy deserves to be recognized as well. As much as I give him grief, he's one the best.

Which is why I think we should conduct our search outside the coaching tree for our next coach. There's no one within the family that comes close to Dean or Roy.
 
Who else is from Carolina or underneath Dean or Roy that could do the job? Do not say Hubert Davis.

Couldn't find a good graphic for Roy's coaching tree, but here is what Dean Smith produced.
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Indeed, to have Dean and Roy is incredibly special. I think we all see Dean as sort of the master, and rightly so. But Roy deserves to be recognized as well. As much as I give him grief, he's one the best.

Which is why I think we should conduct our search outside the coaching tree for our next coach. There's no one within the family that comes close to Dean or Roy.
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How about this stat? The tar Heels outrebounded FSU and Syracuse by a total of 100-58! That's ridiculous. Rebounding and points in the paint are what separate us from most teams. They are the foundation upon which this team is built.
 
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How about this stat? The tar Heels outrebounded FSU and Syracuse by a total of 100-58! That's ridiculous. Rebounding and points in the paint are what separate us from most teams. They are the foundation upon which this team is built.

I wonder if FSU has been out rebounded this season outside of our game with them? It would surprise me if they had.
 
Wins at KU: 418
Wins at UNC: 382
Average wins per year: 27.9

K has averaged 26.9 wins per year at d00k in 36 years, for 980 wins. This does not count wins this year. If you project Roys wins over a 36 year period, he would have 1,004 wins, again not counting wins this year.
I looked t this recently. IIRC, K became a head coach at 28. Bobby Knight at 26. Roy at 39. That's a lot of years to give up in the race for wins.

I also expect K to coach long enough to pass 1100 wins - because I think he wants a record that no one can beat.

Of course the NCAA (or whoever decides these things) could permit more games per season and then someone like Bill Self (currently 54 with 608 wins, started coaching at 32), Calipari, Few, Miller, or some youngster might be able to catch up.

Think back to Dean's era. Even playing in the ACC tournament and winning the national championship in 1982 only meant playing 32 games. Whereas (for comparison purposes) when Kansas was knocked out in the first round in 2006, they had played 33 games, and getting to the final game today usually means 40 games.

When Dean started, his teams played around 24 games per season. By the end of his career, a typical season went 32-35 games. On average, Dean's teams played 31.4 games per season. For comparison, Sean Miller's teams play an average of 34.7 games per year - 35.6 since moving to Arizona.

Point being, it's easier to run up the W count today than when Dean was coaching. Not only were conferences smaller (12 or 14 conference games per year for almost all of Dean's career) but the NCAA field was smaller for much of that period, meaning fewer postseason games. That, of course, doesn't help Roy vs K because they are both playing on the same field, so to speak.
 
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In my completely biased opinion, Dean will not be 1a on any list. If he's lower than 1, I won't agree with it. I do agree with the above opinion to be really grateful to have had both Dean and Roy lead Carolina.
 
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Why the confusion? You don't get a Dean Smith or Roy Williams every day. Our search after Roy retires should be based on who is most qualified, not from whoever is closest in the coaching tree.
And you wouldn't have gotten a Roy Williams from outside the tree. Period. Roy was immediately successful at Kansas (without previous head coaching experience BTW) because he was a true believer and had mastered Dean's SYSTEM. The beautiful thing we know as Carolina Basketball is about that system. No one from outside the family will continue that. Going outside the system would be an unnecessary self-inflicted wound and the end of Carolina Basketball as we know it.
 
And you wouldn't have gotten a Roy Williams from outside the tree. Period. Roy was immediately successful at Kansas (without previous head coaching experience BTW) because he was a true believer and had mastered Dean's SYSTEM. The beautiful thing we know as Carolina Basketball is about that system. No one from outside the family will continue that. Going outside the system would be an unnecessary self-inflicted wound and the end of Carolina Basketball as we know it.

Don't know that I agree gary, recall when Roy turned us down that first time who Dean wanted to get the job, hint, was not a guy from his tree. I have to agree with 34 in that it has to be the most qualified guy that will run this program with honor. Maybe that is Haas or King at the time, if it is a close call then by all means give it to the guys with Carolina roots.

But don't forget Matt was a Carolina guy and he nearly destroyed us and the guy Dean advocated was not from his tree. The AD was so convinced it had to be a guy with UNC ties that he settled for a guy not nearly ready for the gig and that was unfortunate for both the program as well as Matt.
 
Don't know that I agree gary, recall when Roy turned us down that first time who Dean wanted to get the job, hint, was not a guy from his tree. I have to agree with 34 in that it has to be the most qualified guy that will run this program with honor. Maybe that is Haas or King at the time, if it is a close call then by all means give it to the guys with Carolina roots.

But don't forget Matt was a Carolina guy and he nearly destroyed us and the guy Dean advocated was not from his tree. The AD was so convinced it had to be a guy with UNC ties that he settled for a guy not nearly ready for the gig and that was unfortunate for both the program as well as Matt.
Matt is the ironic example that proves my point. He failed because he abandoned the system, let his ego run amok and broke the ties of the Carolina Basketball family. And BTW, Dean was referring to a temporary care-taker in Majerus until someone from the tree was ready.

Truth be known, if Phil Ford didn't have his past drinking issues he most likely would have gotten the job when Roy turned it down, and I am confident Phil would've been very successful. He is a true disciple and knows and believes in the system backwards and forwards. Roy was always the obvious guy, but nonetheless it's a shame Phil will never get his shot.

Let me take you back further. Back in the day (since it was assumed Bill would go out with Dean) there was the assumption --- that at least for a while was correct --- that Eddie Fogler was being groomed as the heir-apparent. However, not long after Eddie got his first HC gig at Wichita State that changed. Eddie was a good coach and very successful but... although there were elements there, he did not run anywhere near a pure Carolina system. The Prince crown was passed to Roy, and upon getting the KU job he brought Dean Smith basketball back to to his home state of Kansas. I can still remember Dean almost glowing talking about how Roy was running the Passing Game better than UNC was.

Bottom line is Roy knew better than to try to reinvent the wheel. He had the unique opportunity to learn under the master, and while of course, he has brought in his own wrinkles and preferences, Roy has honored that lineage (Doherty too often did just the opposite). Thus, the Carolina system is alive and well and just produced its second 800-win coach.
 
Oh come on, can we stop slobbering all over the "system" for a second. The only system I care about is the one that wins. If someone comes in afterwards and can win with a different philosophy, why not? Roy modeled his after Dean, but that doesn't mean it's the only method that produces results. Sometimes change is a good thing.
 
Oh come on, can we stop slobbering all over the "system" for a second. The only system I care about is the one that wins. If someone comes in afterwards and can win with a different philosophy, why not? Roy modeled his after Dean, but that doesn't mean it's the only method that produces results. Sometimes change is a good thing.
It does beg the question of who are some of y'all pulling for: Carolina Basketball or a program that runs Dean's "system."

I.E. would some of you stop supporting / following / rooting for Carolina hoops if we hired a guy from outside of the Dean coaching tree?
 
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