Merry Christmas everyone. I have not been on the site much lately. I was hoping someone could give me the latest on big Sterling Manley. I thought I read somewhere he may resume practice in mid January. Is this still the case ? Thanks in advance.
Sterling Manley
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Sterling had work on the left knee, out this season, I am one of those hopeful that Sterling could return and be a huge contributor for UNC next season, if he is in the mix with the freshman it would be so cool.
Typically, you have 5 years to play 4, and that gives you an opportunity for a red shirt season. Some players have been given special dispensation by the NCAA for a 6th year, if a case can be made that time or season(s) lost were due to injury. So, in theory, you only have 4 years of eligibility in a career, though, it can be expanded under extenuating circumstances, as mentioned above.
At least two. He would be a Redshirt Junior next year. If he and UNC want three more years of eligibility, the NCAA would probably grant that request
Yes, that is possible, UNC would have to petition the NCAA for an additional year, and would have to make a strong case. I would think it's doable.
Thanks guys. It really is unfortunate he has had to deal with so many injuries. He seems to have a great attitude.
Could have 3 to play 3 if the scenario in the previous posts comes to fruition.
Yes, I like '75's version! Come on big Ster, follow rehab to the letter, come back better than ever!
Can you imagine what he could be like at 100% for a year or 2 on the college level .. he's got one helluva bball body and desire .. guess we'll all find out together.
Really wish the school would release more information on the type of surgery he had, we know it was cartledge and that isn't good at all. Best I can piece together and not knowing for sure which path they took, it seems usually it takes at first an exploratory scoping because damage to the cartilage may not show up on MRI easily, they have to know exactly the scope of damage before they can address it surgically but maybe his issue did show up, I have no indication the announced surgery was exploratory scoping.
It seems there are 2 or 3 different methods that can used to address cartilage damage. Jason Richardson had a procedure called Denovo done, they inject and grow infant cartilage cells that attach. If this sound familiar it is a version of what jeremiah is coming back from that has a recovery time of at least a year and success depends on degree of damage, age, history of damage, and genetics.
While Manley is young and no one can speak to his genetics (his born ability to recover from medical procedures), the 2 major leg breaks are concerns because they occurred at a major physical development stage in his growth. Kid has not been in or able to get in to the level of conditioning needed to play extended minutes in college ball, pushing to try to has resulted in this cartilage damage. Problem there is it would seem to be a situation where the damage was done incrementally, as opposed to a single incident that can be pointed to. Neither are good but I suspect damage done over a period of time could be more problematic.
I know, the question on everyone's mind is 1) Will Sterling be able to recover and play next season 2) Will he ever be able to play at the college level? You are looking at a full year recovery best case, I seriously doubt we are talking about him playing next season. I would suggest, best i can tell, cartilage recovery is even more difficult to come back from than the version of micro fracture Jeremiah had and jeremiah was much more conditioned athlete prior to surgery. Also, Manley being a long big man makes it harder for him to recover and face it, Manley has not been known as a work out warrior during or prior to college. These are just factors that play in to this, not indictment of the kid's grit.
I think for now what we should all be concerned with is can Sterling get to the point where he can live a pain free life and not need knee replacement before he is 30. No one can know for now if basketball will or can be in his future and frankly, we don't even know what procedure he went thru or the extent of damage.
Anyone that knows more or has some history with this kind of thing please share. Would like to know if there is a big man basketballer that has gone thru this kind of thing successfully, best example I can find is Richardson and he was a guard.
It seems there are 2 or 3 different methods that can used to address cartilage damage. Jason Richardson had a procedure called Denovo done, they inject and grow infant cartilage cells that attach. If this sound familiar it is a version of what jeremiah is coming back from that has a recovery time of at least a year and success depends on degree of damage, age, history of damage, and genetics.
While Manley is young and no one can speak to his genetics (his born ability to recover from medical procedures), the 2 major leg breaks are concerns because they occurred at a major physical development stage in his growth. Kid has not been in or able to get in to the level of conditioning needed to play extended minutes in college ball, pushing to try to has resulted in this cartilage damage. Problem there is it would seem to be a situation where the damage was done incrementally, as opposed to a single incident that can be pointed to. Neither are good but I suspect damage done over a period of time could be more problematic.
I know, the question on everyone's mind is 1) Will Sterling be able to recover and play next season 2) Will he ever be able to play at the college level? You are looking at a full year recovery best case, I seriously doubt we are talking about him playing next season. I would suggest, best i can tell, cartilage recovery is even more difficult to come back from than the version of micro fracture Jeremiah had and jeremiah was much more conditioned athlete prior to surgery. Also, Manley being a long big man makes it harder for him to recover and face it, Manley has not been known as a work out warrior during or prior to college. These are just factors that play in to this, not indictment of the kid's grit.
I think for now what we should all be concerned with is can Sterling get to the point where he can live a pain free life and not need knee replacement before he is 30. No one can know for now if basketball will or can be in his future and frankly, we don't even know what procedure he went thru or the extent of damage.
Anyone that knows more or has some history with this kind of thing please share. Would like to know if there is a big man basketballer that has gone thru this kind of thing successfully, best example I can find is Richardson and he was a guard.
My Neighbors daughter is in his class, She said he Certainly thinks hes coming back to play next year.. Very nice Kid is what i am told..
Actually cartilage is generally one of the less serious deals that comes up with knees (provided you still have some left), and if it turns out that they finally got the culprit for his nagging pain, then who knows?... this might be the turing point for getting him back on the floor. I certainly hope so because the kid has been through a lot. If not, then all we can do is wish him well.
I wish Sterling All The Best. I hate to see anyone suffer and be negatively impacted by health problems. Will be sending up some prayers for him.
Best case scenario he comes back healthy, fulfills his potential and goes on the get paid to play ball for a while .. worst case scenario is he doesn't get to play ball for a living but takes advantage of a great education and has a great life. A UNC degree has it's advantages too.
Yeah, if he gets it fixed where he can play it would seem like he would have a great case for that extra year.
And that’s a pretty rosy worst case scenario. Very few college basketball players will go on to play for pay anyway. Availing themselves of the opportunity to get a great education is the best chance for most to be successful.
You got that right .. and that is something there can be no debate about .. but somebody will
He may not be referring to people on here. I can't think of any negative posts about Manley.
On several boards I have seen people say Manley, IF he isn't going to ever be able to play again should take the Medical Hardship or whatever it's called that lets him retain his scholarship wrt finishing his education at UNC while NOT counting against the team's basketball scholarship numbers. One guy on another board said he is hurting the team IF he will never be able to play again and doesn't take the way out mentioned above.
That's the "worst" statement I recall reading.
Whatever, I HOPE Garrison is right and Manley comes back with a vengeance and gets and stays healthy and helps get us back to playing a much higher level of basketball.
That's the "worst" statement I recall reading.
Whatever, I HOPE Garrison is right and Manley comes back with a vengeance and gets and stays healthy and helps get us back to playing a much higher level of basketball.
And BTW, I am SUPER GLAD Garrison followed his Heart and came to UNC. Last year and this year would have been much tougher without him!
Kids cannot help being injured. I really hate it for them. They have this window of time and they are blessed with athletic ability and injuries just rob them of it. However, it is nice to hear some success stories about them. Francis.....that poor young man has been through a lot. Sterling, Leaky, Anthony, Cole, Francis, Platek, B-Rob, Bacot and KJ all have been hit with significant injuries and it’s just the end of December. Poor Sterling had two broken legs in High School at different times. He sure didn’t ask for it. I would Love for these kids to get well so they can play to the best of their abilities. I would hate if the players thought that our core fan base was not encouraging and rooting for them during their trials. But I can honestly say that I am not in that category and none of my Tar Heel friends that I associate with are as well either. Hang in there kids!!! You are Family
Most? Yeah, but there was some questioning of his abilities when we recruited him, and then whether he would be any good even if healthy.
Healthy and never hurt again he could have made some noise, Get Healthy again and stay that way he will contribute.. The Problem with the bigs we have is they don't have a go to move , they basically just brawl and try and dunk or throw it up on the glass.. Brooks has developed a touch and a couple of go to moves but Huff Manley and Bacot really don'y have bread and Butter moves..
Well TBH, Huff was always a marginal talent, Sterling hasn’t been healthy for over three years, and Armando is a freshman. Garrison is a junior who has stayed healthy and developed nicely.
Yeah ... coming in I thought Sterling had the body measurable's (on paper) to be really good, and with the UNC history with staff conditioning and coaching up bigs I had high hopes .. but health and recovery is always an unknown .. as it will be with a lot of players on this years team. But as it is now I think his college .. and basketball career is surely questionable.
Only as to health. If he was healthy right now he'd be a BIG help to this team.
I think anyone that watched Sterling play as a freshman saw the potential, my concern has always been his strength and conditioning to play at this level. I felt and still feel, if the kid could have gotten the typical S&C work in and was healthy, with typical UNC big man development, would not just start for us this season but would be our main go to big man. But he just has not been able to do that, no idea if he will be able to, we will all just have to wait and see with him.
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