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turning point....

If you told me before the game that the 3PT numbers were going to be 8/13 for UNC and 7/21 for Wisconsin, I would have been thrilled with that and figured we'd win fairly convincingly.

While not a god awful FT%, 12-18 for UNC and 20-23 for Wisconsin played a big part in the outcome. Those guys just don't miss free throws!! We need to keep making strides from the stripe for next year so that we win the close ones like that.

I do feel bad jumping on Nate, because it seems like the effort is there, but the skills/results just aren't.

Roy: It looks like he drew up a pretty good game plan. He got the tempo he wanted, which is what made it such a competitive game, again, I would have thought we would win if you had told me beforehand that the game would be played in the 70's. For the most part, his lineups and subs were good. Foul trouble for Brice, and I'm sure some soreness from Kennedy forced us into some smaller lineups which worked. We were doubling in the post a little bit, but managed to keep them from finding wide open 3's. But as mentioned earlier, Roy's 2 faults were putting Britt into the game, when Berry had proven himself to be more effective, and being stubborn ol' Roy and not calling that TO when it became 61-60, and instead letting the team dig themselves into a bigger hole and wait until it was 65-60, and pretty much out of hand at that point (yes we later cut it to 1, but it was an uphill battle for the remainder of the game). A positive for Roy is that he didnt inexplicably throw Jackson Simmons in at the under 8 timeout or whenever he tossed Britt in there. I expected Simmons to get some time, knowing how Roy is loyal to his upperclassmen, and especially his seniors. I would have figured he would get Simmons into the game in the event that it was his last game as a Heel (which it ended up being), but happy that he didnt.

The "problem" with the team this year is that when we had a fairly comfortable 5-10pt lead with under 10 minutes to go in the second half, we routinely found ways to lose the game. It wasn't a one or two game stumble, the "lead blowing" happened routinely. Whether that's on the players, or the coach, or both, I'm not sure - but it needs to get fixed for next year. In the span of a few years, I've gone from watching UNC games in which we're down by 5 points under 10 minutes to go, and knowing that we would somehow find a way to win the game (2005 through 2009 years), to watching games in which we're up by 5-10 points with under 10 to go, and knowing that we would somehow find a way to lose the game (last couple seasons).

Hoping that everyone comes back for next year, which I don't think is too much of a stretch based on current draft projections. If so, we'll be a better team next year, and a potential Final Four/Title contender if we can flip the script on the end-of-game mishaps.
 
Originally posted by BWill23:

Originally posted by SeaHawk98:


Originally posted by BWill23:

First let me say, I'm excited to participate on this board.

Secondly, I'm happy with how far we got. We lost to Wisconsin. Better team. Better coached. They were a 1 and we were a 4. Not too bad of a year and everybody comes back (whether that's good or bad can be debated).

Lastly, and I'm not personally attacking you SeaHawk, but I'm so tired of you people whining about the officiating. Especially the play on Tokoto's fast break. Do any of you even know the rules or do you just like to whine?

I'll keep this as simple as I can. Gasser established legal guarding position. If you don't know what that is, then look it up. Once you have established legal guarding position you can move either laterally or BACKWARDS. That is all Gasser did. He moved backwards and Tokoto ran right into him and lost control of the ball. NO official is going to bail out a limited offensive player like Tokoto in that situation. Not one. The only player that would get the call there would be a "star" player and if they did, it would be the wrong call.

It's Tokoto's fault for not being skilled enough to go around him or get the ball to somebody that could do something with the ball. I'm still trying to figure out how going right at the guy was his best move. As you can see it didn't turn out well at all. If we convert there and go up 9, who knows how the game turns out. We might have lost, but the chances of a win would have gone up dramatically.

Go Heels!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................2015-2016 :)
1. I thought UNC was the better team last night.
2. Meeks had the same position in the first half and it was a foul. I don't care if you legal guarding position or not, the defenders arms were bent into Tokoto and clearly fouled him. That was a horrible call, not ifs or buts about it. He was mugged, especially given the ticky tack calls during the game. And, yes officials bail out players all the time. I will complain about the officiating all I want, its not whining, they were terrible. Any other profession besides may weathermen, would be fired over their performance. They are incompetent. I just want consistency. Call it evenly both ways, and that did not happen last night.
Settle down. You clearly have no understanding of the rules or how to officiate a game. NO player that does what Tokoto did last night gets bailed out unless they are a "star" player. Even then it doesn't happen all the time. That was a bone headed play by Tokoto and the ref wasn't going to bail him out. Why not just make a move and go past Gasser instead of right into him? Is it because he is limited offensively?

I can't even argue about the Meeks foul because I don't remember what the play was.

You might not care about legal guarding position but the rule book and good officials do. I swear every time we lose we have many people claiming the officials are bad blah blah blah blah. Have you ever reffed a game before? A game that actually meant something? Or have you just critiqued from the stands and while watching your TV WHERE THE BEST VIEWS ARE?
Your funny. I am fairly confident I have a better understanding than you do. I am biased, no doubt about it. So I guess you can hack players arms as long as you have good guarding position? Whatever.
 
truth is, we couldn't overcome their resiliency and toughness. Essentially, our great 34-35 minutes couldn't overcome their great 5-6 minutes to close the game. They were simply better than we were and much more equipped to make plays down the stretch. As we have all year, we looked completely "deer in headlights" with 5 to go.
 
Originally posted by SeaHawk98:

Originally posted by BWill23:


Originally posted by SeaHawk98:



Originally posted by BWill23:

First let me say, I'm excited to participate on this board.

Secondly, I'm happy with how far we got. We lost to Wisconsin. Better team. Better coached. They were a 1 and we were a 4. Not too bad of a year and everybody comes back (whether that's good or bad can be debated).

Lastly, and I'm not personally attacking you SeaHawk, but I'm so tired of you people whining about the officiating. Especially the play on Tokoto's fast break. Do any of you even know the rules or do you just like to whine?

I'll keep this as simple as I can. Gasser established legal guarding position. If you don't know what that is, then look it up. Once you have established legal guarding position you can move either laterally or BACKWARDS. That is all Gasser did. He moved backwards and Tokoto ran right into him and lost control of the ball. NO official is going to bail out a limited offensive player like Tokoto in that situation. Not one. The only player that would get the call there would be a "star" player and if they did, it would be the wrong call.

It's Tokoto's fault for not being skilled enough to go around him or get the ball to somebody that could do something with the ball. I'm still trying to figure out how going right at the guy was his best move. As you can see it didn't turn out well at all. If we convert there and go up 9, who knows how the game turns out. We might have lost, but the chances of a win would have gone up dramatically.

Go Heels!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................2015-2016 :)
1. I thought UNC was the better team last night.
2. Meeks had the same position in the first half and it was a foul. I don't care if you legal guarding position or not, the defenders arms were bent into Tokoto and clearly fouled him. That was a horrible call, not ifs or buts about it. He was mugged, especially given the ticky tack calls during the game. And, yes officials bail out players all the time. I will complain about the officiating all I want, its not whining, they were terrible. Any other profession besides may weathermen, would be fired over their performance. They are incompetent. I just want consistency. Call it evenly both ways, and that did not happen last night.
Settle down. You clearly have no understanding of the rules or how to officiate a game. NO player that does what Tokoto did last night gets bailed out unless they are a "star" player. Even then it doesn't happen all the time. That was a bone headed play by Tokoto and the ref wasn't going to bail him out. Why not just make a move and go past Gasser instead of right into him? Is it because he is limited offensively?

I can't even argue about the Meeks foul because I don't remember what the play was.

You might not care about legal guarding position but the rule book and good officials do. I swear every time we lose we have many people claiming the officials are bad blah blah blah blah. Have you ever reffed a game before? A game that actually meant something? Or have you just critiqued from the stands and while watching your TV WHERE THE BEST VIEWS ARE?
Your funny. I am fairly confident I have a better understanding than you do. I am biased, no doubt about it. So I guess you can hack players arms as long as you have good guarding position? Whatever.
You do NOT have a better understanding and have already proven that. Since you think there was a hack on the arms and should have been a foul, let me ask you the following. Is the offensive player able to run/jump into a defensive player that has legal guarding position?

Let's assume there was a hack on the arms. There was also contact created by Tokoto. It evens out into a no call and thus not called by the referee.
 
Originally posted by BWill23:

Originally posted by SeaHawk98:


Originally posted by BWill23:



Originally posted by SeaHawk98:




Originally posted by BWill23:

First let me say, I'm excited to participate on this board.

Secondly, I'm happy with how far we got. We lost to Wisconsin. Better team. Better coached. They were a 1 and we were a 4. Not too bad of a year and everybody comes back (whether that's good or bad can be debated).

Lastly, and I'm not personally attacking you SeaHawk, but I'm so tired of you people whining about the officiating. Especially the play on Tokoto's fast break. Do any of you even know the rules or do you just like to whine?

I'll keep this as simple as I can. Gasser established legal guarding position. If you don't know what that is, then look it up. Once you have established legal guarding position you can move either laterally or BACKWARDS. That is all Gasser did. He moved backwards and Tokoto ran right into him and lost control of the ball. NO official is going to bail out a limited offensive player like Tokoto in that situation. Not one. The only player that would get the call there would be a "star" player and if they did, it would be the wrong call.

It's Tokoto's fault for not being skilled enough to go around him or get the ball to somebody that could do something with the ball. I'm still trying to figure out how going right at the guy was his best move. As you can see it didn't turn out well at all. If we convert there and go up 9, who knows how the game turns out. We might have lost, but the chances of a win would have gone up dramatically.

Go Heels!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................2015-2016 :)
1. I thought UNC was the better team last night.
2. Meeks had the same position in the first half and it was a foul. I don't care if you legal guarding position or not, the defenders arms were bent into Tokoto and clearly fouled him. That was a horrible call, not ifs or buts about it. He was mugged, especially given the ticky tack calls during the game. And, yes officials bail out players all the time. I will complain about the officiating all I want, its not whining, they were terrible. Any other profession besides may weathermen, would be fired over their performance. They are incompetent. I just want consistency. Call it evenly both ways, and that did not happen last night.
Settle down. You clearly have no understanding of the rules or how to officiate a game. NO player that does what Tokoto did last night gets bailed out unless they are a "star" player. Even then it doesn't happen all the time. That was a bone headed play by Tokoto and the ref wasn't going to bail him out. Why not just make a move and go past Gasser instead of right into him? Is it because he is limited offensively?

I can't even argue about the Meeks foul because I don't remember what the play was.

You might not care about legal guarding position but the rule book and good officials do. I swear every time we lose we have many people claiming the officials are bad blah blah blah blah. Have you ever reffed a game before? A game that actually meant something? Or have you just critiqued from the stands and while watching your TV WHERE THE BEST VIEWS ARE?
Your funny. I am fairly confident I have a better understanding than you do. I am biased, no doubt about it. So I guess you can hack players arms as long as you have good guarding position? Whatever.
You do NOT have a better understanding and have already proven that. Since you think there was a hack on the arms and should have been a foul, let me ask you the following. Is the offensive player able to run/jump into a defensive player that has legal guarding position?

Let's assume there was a hack on the arms. There was also contact created by Tokoto. It evens out into a no call and thus not called by the referee.
The exact same call was made against Meeks in the first half. So know you are saying Tokoto committed a charge. Really, you are just showing you have no clue. The Wisconsin player didn't even fall down (surprisingly given their epic dook like flops). I am not arguing anymore. It was a foul plain and simple and Tokoto should have shot 2 free throws.
 
Originally posted by BWill23:

Originally posted by vbrs:
I think Roy had a great over-all game plan and coached well. I do wish that he had called a timeout earlier after Wisc went on their run. I think that would have stopped their run faster. We came out of the timeout and played much better but we were down 5 not one. The Britt substitution didn't work but Britt played great against Ark; so I how can we fault Roy for that. I don't like to blame the refs on games unless we are playing Duke. But I think that we got bad calls from the start. It seemed that they wanted to see a Wisc. - Az Final 8 game.
My only opinion on the Britt substitution is that I don't care how well he played against Arkansas. A performance like that from him is the exception. Providing little to nothing is the rule with him. It doesn't take a genius to see that Berry is already a better player and that his ceiling is way higher than Britt's. When Berry came out and Britt went in, I was worried that it was the beginning of the end. I'm excited to see Berry progress. He seems to have a little attitude and edge to him. Something this team hasn't had in a LONG time!
Well, if your first 3 posts are any indication of how you will post moving forward then I want to welcome you to this place. IN your first 3 posts I would find it hard to argue against any of what you shared so great job, I look forward to exchanging thoughts with ya!
 
Kinda suprised so many people are KILLING Nate Britt like this. I could understand a lot better if this was something that wasn't normal, but we've lost somewhere near SEVEN games just like this! It's who this team was this year! Quit bashing a 19-20 year old kid, who arguably is a big reason why we even played last night with his game vs Arkansas.

So much bothers me about this team, but they turned the corner in my opinion here at the end of the season. January, I hated the thought of next season with this group, but now, I'm really excited. We're a better shooting team and we have experience and depth. We HAVE to get back to attacking the boards the way we did earlier in the season, tighten up on our man to man defense (too often off ball defenders have their heads turned away from the ball, like rule number 1 with man to man defense, see your man AND the ball!) and quit with the dumb fouls!

But my main issue, which no one ever likes to even bring up, is our annointed best player Marcus Paige. I like the kid, I do, but he IS NOT what everyone wants to make him as. This kid was a no show for most of the game last night and didn't do anything until we're down! He let one kid just chase him around and take him out of the game! HE'S THE GUY that has to play better on a consistent basis! PERIOD! Can't wait until we're down and then start heaving up some desperation 3's!
 
Originally posted by SeaHawk98:

Originally posted by BWill23:


Originally posted by SeaHawk98:



Originally posted by BWill23:




Originally posted by SeaHawk98:





Originally posted by BWill23:

First let me say, I'm excited to participate on this board.

Secondly, I'm happy with how far we got. We lost to Wisconsin. Better team. Better coached. They were a 1 and we were a 4. Not too bad of a year and everybody comes back (whether that's good or bad can be debated).

Lastly, and I'm not personally attacking you SeaHawk, but I'm so tired of you people whining about the officiating. Especially the play on Tokoto's fast break. Do any of you even know the rules or do you just like to whine?

I'll keep this as simple as I can. Gasser established legal guarding position. If you don't know what that is, then look it up. Once you have established legal guarding position you can move either laterally or BACKWARDS. That is all Gasser did. He moved backwards and Tokoto ran right into him and lost control of the ball. NO official is going to bail out a limited offensive player like Tokoto in that situation. Not one. The only player that would get the call there would be a "star" player and if they did, it would be the wrong call.

It's Tokoto's fault for not being skilled enough to go around him or get the ball to somebody that could do something with the ball. I'm still trying to figure out how going right at the guy was his best move. As you can see it didn't turn out well at all. If we convert there and go up 9, who knows how the game turns out. We might have lost, but the chances of a win would have gone up dramatically.

Go Heels!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................2015-2016 :)
1. I thought UNC was the better team last night.
2. Meeks had the same position in the first half and it was a foul. I don't care if you legal guarding position or not, the defenders arms were bent into Tokoto and clearly fouled him. That was a horrible call, not ifs or buts about it. He was mugged, especially given the ticky tack calls during the game. And, yes officials bail out players all the time. I will complain about the officiating all I want, its not whining, they were terrible. Any other profession besides may weathermen, would be fired over their performance. They are incompetent. I just want consistency. Call it evenly both ways, and that did not happen last night.
Settle down. You clearly have no understanding of the rules or how to officiate a game. NO player that does what Tokoto did last night gets bailed out unless they are a "star" player. Even then it doesn't happen all the time. That was a bone headed play by Tokoto and the ref wasn't going to bail him out. Why not just make a move and go past Gasser instead of right into him? Is it because he is limited offensively?

I can't even argue about the Meeks foul because I don't remember what the play was.

You might not care about legal guarding position but the rule book and good officials do. I swear every time we lose we have many people claiming the officials are bad blah blah blah blah. Have you ever reffed a game before? A game that actually meant something? Or have you just critiqued from the stands and while watching your TV WHERE THE BEST VIEWS ARE?
Your funny. I am fairly confident I have a better understanding than you do. I am biased, no doubt about it. So I guess you can hack players arms as long as you have good guarding position? Whatever.
You do NOT have a better understanding and have already proven that. Since you think there was a hack on the arms and should have been a foul, let me ask you the following. Is the offensive player able to run/jump into a defensive player that has legal guarding position?

Let's assume there was a hack on the arms. There was also contact created by Tokoto. It evens out into a no call and thus not called by the referee.
The exact same call was made against Meeks in the first half. So know you are saying Tokoto committed a charge. Really, you are just showing you have no clue. The Wisconsin player didn't even fall down (surprisingly given their epic dook like flops). I am not arguing anymore. It was a foul plain and simple and Tokoto should have shot 2 free throws.
Boo hoo!!!!!! Run away like a little baby.

I did NOT say it was a charge. I'm simply saying that Tokoto created the contact and that is why he didn't get bailed out. You do NOT have to fall down to get a charge call by the way. You can even turn your back/protect yourself if the contact is great enough. It not as simple as not moving/being set like a statue and falling down.

Let's not overlook the fact that he could have done anything different than try to go through the defender. How about go around him? The problem is that he doesn't have the skill set and should really never have the ball in his hands.

I'll ask you again. Have you ever reffed anything that mattered? Or have you just sat in front of your TV or in the stands where the best view is and ripped the refs your whole life? Judging by your ignorant responses, I think I already know the answer.
 
Originally posted by DSouthr:

Originally posted by BWill23:


Originally posted by vbrs:
I think Roy had a great over-all game plan and coached well. I do wish that he had called a timeout earlier after Wisc went on their run. I think that would have stopped their run faster. We came out of the timeout and played much better but we were down 5 not one. The Britt substitution didn't work but Britt played great against Ark; so I how can we fault Roy for that. I don't like to blame the refs on games unless we are playing Duke. But I think that we got bad calls from the start. It seemed that they wanted to see a Wisc. - Az Final 8 game.
My only opinion on the Britt substitution is that I don't care how well he played against Arkansas. A performance like that from him is the exception. Providing little to nothing is the rule with him. It doesn't take a genius to see that Berry is already a better player and that his ceiling is way higher than Britt's. When Berry came out and Britt went in, I was worried that it was the beginning of the end. I'm excited to see Berry progress. He seems to have a little attitude and edge to him. Something this team hasn't had in a LONG time!
Well, if your first 3 posts are any indication of how you will post moving forward then I want to welcome you to this place. IN your first 3 posts I would find it hard to argue against any of what you shared so great job, I look forward to exchanging thoughts with ya!
I hope that's not sarcasm as I am looking forward to some good discussions too. Now that the season is over, I probably won't engage in much discussion until next season.

Not everybody is going to agree with me or you, but it's fun to talk about the Heels and basketball in general.
 
Originally posted by EmJay14:
Kinda suprised so many people are KILLING Nate Britt like this. I could understand a lot better if this was something that wasn't normal, but we've lost somewhere near SEVEN games just like this! It's who this team was this year! Quit bashing a 19-20 year old kid, who arguably is a big reason why we even played last night with his game vs Arkansas.

So much bothers me about this team, but they turned the corner in my opinion here at the end of the season. January, I hated the thought of next season with this group, but now, I'm really excited. We're a better shooting team and we have experience and depth. We HAVE to get back to attacking the boards the way we did earlier in the season, tighten up on our man to man defense (too often off ball defenders have their heads turned away from the ball, like rule number 1 with man to man defense, see your man AND the ball!) and quit with the dumb fouls!

But my main issue, which no one ever likes to even bring up, is our annointed best player Marcus Paige. I like the kid, I do, but he IS NOT what everyone wants to make him as. This kid was a no show for most of the game last night and didn't do anything until we're down! He let one kid just chase him around and take him out of the game! HE'S THE GUY that has to play better on a consistent basis! PERIOD! Can't wait until we're down and then start heaving up some desperation 3's!
Can't say that you are wrong with any of that.

I'm not trying to bash Britt. My point of view is that he's not that good and his game against Arkansas was the exception and not the rule with him. He's simply not that good. Berry played well last night and we were winning. Why take out the guy that is playing well to put in a player that is historically a question mark? That's just not good coaching. And you can't tell me it was for matchup purposes because Britt couldn't defend my grandmother and he's not that good offensively.

Berry was playing well. Britt is a question mark and he had another bad game that cost us down the stretch. I don't hate the kid. That's simply what happened.
 
BWill you can ramble all you want about "legal guarding position," but when you get hit across the arm while moving toward the basket, and beginning your shooting motion, its a foul. It happened right in front of my seats and it was obvious that JP got hit on the arm. Im impressed by you reffing something that "matters" though. Im sure all your experience reffing YMCA and high school games gives you tons of credibility regarding a controversial call in a Sweet 16 game
 
Originally posted by BWill23:

Originally posted by DSouthr:


Originally posted by BWill23:



Originally posted by vbrs:
I think Roy had a great over-all game plan and coached well. I do wish that he had called a timeout earlier after Wisc went on their run. I think that would have stopped their run faster. We came out of the timeout and played much better but we were down 5 not one. The Britt substitution didn't work but Britt played great against Ark; so I how can we fault Roy for that. I don't like to blame the refs on games unless we are playing Duke. But I think that we got bad calls from the start. It seemed that they wanted to see a Wisc. - Az Final 8 game.
My only opinion on the Britt substitution is that I don't care how well he played against Arkansas. A performance like that from him is the exception. Providing little to nothing is the rule with him. It doesn't take a genius to see that Berry is already a better player and that his ceiling is way higher than Britt's. When Berry came out and Britt went in, I was worried that it was the beginning of the end. I'm excited to see Berry progress. He seems to have a little attitude and edge to him. Something this team hasn't had in a LONG time!
Well, if your first 3 posts are any indication of how you will post moving forward then I want to welcome you to this place. IN your first 3 posts I would find it hard to argue against any of what you shared so great job, I look forward to exchanging thoughts with ya!
I hope that's not sarcasm as I am looking forward to some good discussions too. Now that the season is over, I probably won't engage in much discussion until next season.

Not everybody is going to agree with me or you, but it's fun to talk about the Heels and basketball in general.
Not sarcasm at all, trust me, when I get sarcastic, the whole world knows what I mean. That was just a sincere welcome and my saying I agreed with most of what you stated.
 
Originally posted by EmJay14:
Kinda suprised so many people are KILLING Nate Britt like this. I could understand a lot better if this was something that wasn't normal, but we've lost somewhere near SEVEN games just like this! It's who this team was this year! Quit bashing a 19-20 year old kid, who arguably is a big reason why we even played last night with his game vs Arkansas.

So much bothers me about this team, but they turned the corner in my opinion here at the end of the season. January, I hated the thought of next season with this group, but now, I'm really excited. We're a better shooting team and we have experience and depth. We HAVE to get back to attacking the boards the way we did earlier in the season, tighten up on our man to man defense (too often off ball defenders have their heads turned away from the ball, like rule number 1 with man to man defense, see your man AND the ball!) and quit with the dumb fouls!

But my main issue, which no one ever likes to even bring up, is our annointed best player Marcus Paige. I like the kid, I do, but he IS NOT what everyone wants to make him as. This kid was a no show for most of the game last night and didn't do anything until we're down! He let one kid just chase him around and take him out of the game! HE'S THE GUY that has to play better on a consistent basis! PERIOD! Can't wait until we're down and then start heaving up some desperation 3's!
I don't think it is "killing" Nate or bashing him, it is nothing more than this is what I saw and frankly it was exactly what I saw.

So let me get this straight, you don't want folks bashing Nate but it is fine to bash Marcus? You gonna have to explain that cause that doesn't strike me as a real intelligent thing to say?
 
Originally posted by thaUNCshow:
BWill you can ramble all you want about "legal guarding position," but when you get hit across the arm while moving toward the basket, and beginning your shooting motion, its a foul. It happened right in front of my seats and it was obvious that JP got hit on the arm. Im impressed by you reffing something that "matters" though. Im sure all your experience reffing YMCA and high school games gives you tons of credibility regarding a controversial call in a Sweet 16 game
That wasn't my point.

Sounds like you had a better view than what we had on TV.
 
Originally posted by EmJay14:
Kinda suprised so many people are KILLING Nate Britt like this. Quit bashing a 19-20 year old kid

But my main issue, which no one ever likes to even bring up, is our annointed best player Marcus Paige. I like the kid, I do, but he IS NOT what everyone wants to make him as. This kid was a no show for most of the game last night and didn't do anything until we're down! He let one kid just chase him around and take him out of the game! HE'S THE GUY that has to play better on a consistent basis! PERIOD! Can't wait until we're down and then start heaving up some desperation 3's!
First off Nate Britt is 21, as is Marcus Paige - minor point I know but...

Let me just wrap my head around this post. You basically said "Don't criticize the players" then proceeded with "Marcus Paige sucks"

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Lol no, I was actually just stating a fact that needed to be stated since the atmosphere is so negative. Never bashed him, just said he didnt show up. Didnt put the loss on him, just said we need him all game and not for 30 seconds when we're down 7. No matter how u look at it, everyone on the roster is better than I ever dreamed of being! So no, wont ever bash, just stating an obvious fact that for some reason most unc fans refuse to ever point at.
 
We have given up that 9 point plus run time after time this year and it's not any one player's fault it just seems to be a team lack of focus for a minute or so which I think a time out would help. Also anyone expecting well officiated games , I just have to ask you 'Have you watched any games this year?" It just ain't happening.
 
I am sorry, but is there really debate on to whether or not Tokoto was fouled?

The dude moved into Tokoto's path. Contact was made which resulted in the ball going loose. A foul has to be called regardless. It is either a charge or a block. He moved into Tokoto's path, feet weren't set. Obvious block.
 
Wish JP had kicked across to Paige who I think was trailing the play to JPs left but he did not .
So regarding the play that was made by the Wisconsin defender. 99% of the time there would be a foul called on that play because the defender brought his arms down and slapped down at the ball. That usually means a whistle even if it was all ball. JP picked up his dribble too early and should have attacked to the side and not straight at the basket, Reason he did not get the foul called is because the whole thing looked kind of awkward.
Brice's foul trouble really hurt because Wisconsin could not guard him and he was scoring at will. Limiting his minutes limited offensive options.
No shame in losing to the Badgers. They are a really good team and could win it all.
 
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