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Udoka closing in on decision?

That's the same old tired crap many said about Brice-Zeller and many others. IF they don't improve under Roy they don't want to. I see plenty of want-to in Meeks.

The problem is, developing and improving usually loses when that abuts against being a high draft pick. There are plenty of players who would benefit from returning to college but when the siren song of the NBA calls, it's hard to turn it down. That's especially problematic when you include agents telling late 2nd rounders that they'll be drafted in the lottery. Adding a layer of difficulty is that the player doesn't even have to be that skilled yet. If they are talented and show potential, the NBA will take you.

Not that you don't know this, but I see a lot of people say, "he's not ready" but ready has virtually nothing to do with the NBA's or their decision.
 
I've seen Meeks play every season since he was a freshman in high school. The only difference between now and then is his body weight.

Obviously you are NO judge of talent and simply do not understand the game of basketball!!!! This comment prove's that!
 
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The problem is, developing and improving usually loses when that abuts against being a high draft pick. There are plenty of players who would benefit from returning to college but when the siren song of the NBA calls, it's hard to turn it down. That's especially problematic when you include agents telling late 2nd rounders that they'll be drafted in the lottery. Adding a layer of difficulty is that the player doesn't even have to be that skilled yet. If they are talented and show potential, the NBA will take you.

Not that you don't know this, but I see a lot of people say, "he's not ready" but ready has virtually nothing to do with the NBA's or their decision.

Oh, well OK then, so someone tell the NBA I am ready to be drafted, I am not ready to be drafted game wise but now I realize I don't have to be ready or able to help a NBA team in order to get drafted, so cool, that retirement thingy just got a little easier! Reckon maybe I can go lotto, I mean at 56 I still got a few years before I can cash social security checks! I promise ya, ALL I GOT IS UPSIDE cause I can't play worth a lick any more, so I have that going for me to...
 
Oh, well OK then, so someone tell the NBA I am ready to be drafted, I am not ready to be drafted game wise but now I realize I don't have to be ready or able to help a NBA team in order to get drafted, so cool, that retirement thingy just got a little easier! Reckon maybe I can go lotto, I mean at 56 I still got a few years before I can cash social security checks! I promise ya, ALL I GOT IS UPSIDE cause I can't play worth a lick any more, so I have that going for me to...
I would guess you'd get a response like this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/nba-sends-letter-guy-declared-nba-draft-2013-5
 
Just curious if this would be due to this years draft class being weaker in many peoples opinions than what he might compete against in 2017. Meeks certainly has gotten better every year and likely would improve his numbers next year esp. as called on to have a larger senior roll. However his improvement might not matter if enough young "potential" kids are coming in and immediately leaving next year. I have watched Meeks play well against Duke for the last few years and really not looking forward to this years matchup, but to me he seems like a good energy guy with good size(has to watch his weight but certainly that's not a huge issue)
 
Steat, buddy, of course Meeks can get better...I can't believe you said that man, develop a mid range jump shot, play with more aggresion, play thru the defender as opposed to that soft stuff that gets smacked back him a couple times every game.

And after all, how bad did Brice coming back hurt his draftability ? Brice would maybe have gone higher in the last draft than Meeks is likely to go in this one... If meeks is at his ceiling then in all candor, he needs to stay in school and finish his degree cause he will need it after a stint in the euro leagues.
I said it Dave...lol. We agree 99% of the time. I think the clincher for me are his injuries. Meeks is injury-prone. He has had several injuries since he has been at UNC and a couple of mysterious ailments. If he comes back and blows out a knee he may never get a chance to make an NBA roster. He can develop a 15-20 jumper in the NBA, D-League or Europe. Brice definitely improved his stock by coming back. It's just not an exact science. Paige highest stock was after his sophomore year. Unless Paige picks it up considerably the rest of the year he may not get drafted. I don't think anyone would have said this after Paige's sophomore year. I'm saying this because for every player that improved his status by coming back, we can come up with a player whose status worsen by coming back. Even if Meeks came back of his senior year, can we realistically think he will crack the first round with Giles and the other one-in-dones coming out? Do the Heels need Meeks do be lurking out at the 3-point line or under board banging it? The best I see Meeks going is the second round with no quaranteed money which is not much difference then an undrafted free agent. I would love for Meeks to come back because the Heels could use him, but if I was advising him I would tell him to leave. We all can rattle off the bigs over the years that have been injured and never recovered.
 
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Thon maker is an amazing talent but there is zero possibility he commits to UNC and with the new academic requirements in place for next season it is doubtful he comits to any school. I do think that UA to Kansas takes them out for Bolden and Allen but duke & Ky are all over Bolden leaving Allen who is not likely to leave the state of Texas. Pretty much leaves the only guy left for Roy to recruit as Kennedy Meeks.

I know I know, Meeks has made his mind up, he going pro after this season, yeah I know. But the most important lesson this life has taught me is things change, decisions change, new information comes and brand new decisions happen. Brice went in to his Jr season at UNC with the full belief that he would enter the last NBA draft but rather than do that he is playing for us right now. Meeks has not exactly had a ready for the NBA type of season so far, Brice didn't exactly have a ready for the NBA season last season, look what coming back has done for Brice! If we can go in to next season with Meeks, Hicks, Tony, and Luke, I am fine with that.
I think you guys are wrong about Meeks. Hell the article about Udoka said Roy told Udoka he expects Meeks back next year.

Stop listening to rumors and gossip.
 
Really? Where are the instant impact recruits?

2017 Jalek Felton
2018 Rechon Black

Don't worry your pretty little head over it. We'll get more. What would a ND fan know about a top 10 recruit anyway?

Is this guy serious? A ND fan heckling us about falling off from our days of glory. Oh, the irony...
 
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2017 Jalek Felton
2018 Rechon Black

Don't worry your pretty little head over it. We'll get more. What would a ND fan know about a top 10 recruit anyway?

Is this guy serious? A ND fan heckling us about falling off from our days of glory. Oh, the irony...
With a chance to add some more in state talent..we don't even have to leave the state to recruit top kids anymore...plus,we can come into Indiana get what we want..if we want to!!..ha ha!!
 
Really? Where are the instant impact recruits? That top 10 stud that can change your fortunes? When will you get even one of them over Duke, Kentucky or Kansas?

REALLY, your instant impact studs from last season in Jones, Ochafor, Winslow...How many games have they helped your dukies win this season? This season where is UNC ranked right now as opposed to duke, Ky, and kansas?

Those instant impact studs you talk about, looks to me like we are doing pretty darn good without em? What ya think? LOL
 
2017 Jalek Felton
2018 Rechon Black

Don't worry your pretty little head over it. We'll get more. What would a ND fan know about a top 10 recruit anyway?

Is this guy serious? A ND fan heckling us about falling off from our days of glory. Oh, the irony...

Jalek Felton?? Come on. Not exactly Dennis Smith Jr., Malik Monk or De'Aaron Fox. And Black?? That cute little 4 star?? Lol. Not exactly a Harry Giles type of impact I'm willing to bet.
 
REALLY, your instant impact studs from last season in Jones, Ochafor, Winslow...How many games have they helped your dukies win this season? This season where is UNC ranked right now as opposed to duke, Ky, and kansas?

Those instant impact studs you talk about, looks to me like we are doing pretty darn good without em? What ya think? LOL

All of college bball is way down this year. You guys better hope you win it all this year because starting next season things will be looking VERY much different for you.
 
REALLY, your instant impact studs from last season in Jones, Ochafor, Winslow...How many games have they helped your dukies win this season? This season where is UNC ranked right now as opposed to duke, Ky, and kansas?

Those instant impact studs you talk about, looks to me like we are doing pretty darn good without em? What ya think? LOL

I'm willing to bet Duke isn't hurting too bad with a down year after winning the last National Championship.
 
All of college bball is way down this year. You guys better hope you win it all this year because starting next season things will be looking VERY much different for you.

Yada yada yada, enjoy shutting down the season now, enjoy your morph in to NC State levels of "wait'll next year" ! We are kinda busy dealing with this season cause this season, as your coach put it, IS AMAZING !
 
All of college bball is way down this year. You guys better hope you win it all this year because starting next season things will be looking VERY much different for you.

And you know this how? You have Mrs Cleo on speed dial? What, did you buy her crystal ball off of ebay? You going to invest in dukie 40-0 T-shirts now for next season delivery? Where did all that we gonna repeat talk go, based on that AMAZING freshman class you have right now? Oh, I know, you never said that, must have been 20 other fellas huh? LOL

This dormer dude is really easy to toy with, I mean he opens his mouth and nonsense flows and I swaer, the wuffies are gonna sue him for stealing their schitck! LOL
 
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Yada yada yada, enjoy shutting down the season now, enjoy your morph in to NC State levels of "wait'll next year" ! We are kinda busy dealing with this season cause this season, as your coach put it, IS AMAZING !

And Duke is defending National Champs. I'm not a huge Duke fan but anyhow...
 
And Duke will be back to having a whole lot of fun with Giles, Tatum and Jackson next year.

yeah yeah yeah, that all ya got, wait'll next year? Can you even imagine how hard you are being laughed at right now, BOZO has nothing on you! If you had a clue how much we are laughing at you right now you would not post another single word, you would crawl away and hide. Even the dukies will want you to shut up crying like a wolfpack fan! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
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And Duke is defending National Champs. I'm not a huge Duke fan but anyhow...

You not a huge duke fan, what, did K-mart have a sale on duke attire and you want to get your moneys worth? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
 
And you know this how? You have Mrs Cleo on speed dial? What, did you buy her crystal ball off of ebay? You going to invest in dukie 40-0 T-shirts now for next season delivery? Where did all that we gonna repeat talk go, based on that AMAZING freshman class you have right now? Oh, I know, you never said that, must have been 20 other fellas huh? LOL

This dormer dude is really easy to toy with, I mean he opens his mouth and nonsense flows and I swaer, the wuffies are gonna sue him for stealing their schitck! LOL

Yeah, you're quite the witty fella. Your Duke paranoia makes you believe I am some big Duke fan I guess.
 
yeah yeah yeah, that all ya got, wait'll next year? Can you even imagine how hard you are being laughed at right now, BOZO has nothing on you! If you had a clue how much we are laughing at you right now you would not post another single word, you would crawl away and hide. Even the dukies will want you to shut up crying like a wolfpack fan! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

You seem quite riled up. Wow. Settle down, little guy. I can see the steam rolling off your head from here. Do you think Duke is really suffering very much considering they are the defending National Champs and know what is arriving this summer? Doubt it.
 
Yeah, you're quite the witty fella. Your Duke paranoia makes you believe I am some big Duke fan I guess.

It's that your trolling seemed to coincide with the doochies getting knocked out of the rankings that made it pretty clear. Will any of the recruits next year crack the AMAZING 6? Will Giles be Jeter 2.0?
 
It's that your trolling seemed to coincide with the doochies getting knocked out of the rankings that made it pretty clear. Will any of the recruits next year crack the AMAZING 6? Will Giles be Jeter 2.0?

Duke being out of the top 25 means I must be a Dukie?? Anyhow, get serious. Nobody thought Chase Jeter was some Harry Giles type of stud. You HOPE Giles somehow flops but that isn't happening. I can only dream about ND getting that type of player.
 
gooberlover is an obvious troll...
He/she/it has an account for 15 years but has posted all of 19 times, which have all come in the last week or so and are nothing but hating on the Heels in both football and basketball. An ABC'er in the highest degree. Mods please ban this loser.
 
Duke being out of the top 25 means I must be a Dukie?? Anyhow, get serious. Nobody thought Chase Jeter was some Harry Giles type of stud. You HOPE Giles somehow flops but that isn't happening. I can only dream about ND getting that type of player.
When will your FB team when a major bowl game is what you should really be asking !!
 
Duke being out of the top 25 means I must be a Dukie?? Anyhow, get serious. Nobody thought Chase Jeter was some Harry Giles type of stud. You HOPE Giles somehow flops but that isn't happening. I can only dream about ND getting that type of player.

You can also only dream about winning a title. We are the top team in the country. Get the hell off our board.
 
Saturday can't get here soon enough!!.....be a man and show up shortly after the final whistle...if you're not banned by then!!..#beat down!!
 
Duke being out of the top 25 means I must be a Dukie?? Anyhow, get serious. Nobody thought Chase Jeter was some Harry Giles type of stud. You HOPE Giles somehow flops but that isn't happening. I can only dream about ND getting that type of player.

Thats right, in your dreams is all ya got...so, you are a K-Mart dukie.... AYep, strolls out of K-Mart with your brand new dukie gear and scrsaming to the parking lot, "I am a LONG time Life long duke fan and have been so for the last 10minutes" ! To bad K-mart does not sell ND gear, I reckon they only sell stuff that actually folks want to buy...:eek:
 
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