Me too .. another mature player with a good outside shot and an " I WANT to be at UNC" attitude with this years younger team has positive written all over it !!
UNC is aiming for Cameron Johnson
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I don't see a single thing in the rules you quoted giving schools the right to limit the school choices of a grad transfer. If it's in there and I'm missing it, can you bold it or only quote the relevant part?
NCAA gives rights to hinder moved to certain schools to the school the transfer is from in addition to the NCAA and conference rules.
Sure:
A graduate student who is enrolled in a graduate or professional school of an institution other than the institution from which he or she previously received a baccalaureate degree may participate in intercollegiate athletics if the student fulfills the conditions of the one-time transfer exception set forth in Bylaw 14.5.5.2.10
Which he does not because he plays basketball which doesn't fulfill part (a) of the bylaw referenced above:
(a) The student is a participant in a sport other than baseball, basketball, bowl subdivision football or men's ice hockey at the institution to which the student is transferring.
It goes on...
A graduate student who does not meet the one-time transfer exception due to the restrictions of Bylaw 14.5.5.2.10-(a) shall qualify for this exception, provided:
(c) The student's previous institution did not renew his or her athletically related financial aid for the following academic year.
So, if Pitt doesn't approve of where he's going, they can renew his scholarship for the following academic year, making him ineligible.
Maybe long enough. Roy must have a good sense of something if Cam is still wanting to visit after all that has been said.
This thread has gotten too long. Can someone remind me what other schools he's looking at.
I'm assuming he's crossed Arizona and Kentucky off his list because of returning players who will bump him down the bench. But what teams does that leave?
I seem to recall that Oregon is on his list. They lost a lot of talent. So no worries about PT. But with so many gone, will they be good enough for him to get the satisfaction of playing with a good team?
Who else?
I'm assuming he's crossed Arizona and Kentucky off his list because of returning players who will bump him down the bench. But what teams does that leave?
I seem to recall that Oregon is on his list. They lost a lot of talent. So no worries about PT. But with so many gone, will they be good enough for him to get the satisfaction of playing with a good team?
Who else?
Wouldn't surprise me if Roy has CJ sit out against Pitt, just as a courtesy. Not likely to affect the outcome, since Pitt will suck.
Ok we do that during regular season. Fine. What about potentially ACCT? And some miracle in NCAAT? Can't take chances then.
Unless you say, just regular season encounter, after that all bets are off.
I really doubt Roy would sit him against pitt. That seems absurd.
I think you can safely rule out the NCAA miracle. I was thinking regular season, but maybe even in the ACCT. Just think of it as resting CJ.
I wasn't actually thinking of this as a deal between the schools. Just something that Roy might do without any fanfare simply to not rub salt into Stallings' wounds.
It's not just you and it's not just Pitt either. Every school that has tried to stop a transfer has received bad press. Not sure why schools even do it when they know it's going to be bad PR.
Pitt knows that this will eventually blow over and the talking heads will move on to something new. They can lay low and stick to their policy if they truly want to and this will all go away sooner or later. We'll see what they do but they haven't folded yet.
Yeah, but for much longer than that, lots of fans will hate them. And not just UNC fans, either. Fans who think the Pitt folks are behaving like jerks and mistreating their players.
Moreover, for a while, every time we play them, Roy is going to hurt them.
And finally, they get NOTHING out of it because they still don't get to keep Johnson.
This was a bad decision. This is Assad thinking he could just smack down the Arab Spring protests 6 years ago. Well, OK, maybe not that bad. But pretty bad for a game.
Won't blow over if Cameron announces on Twitter he wants to go to UNC and Pitt is blocking him. Only blows over if Cameron Johnson lets it.
Will start back up after his visit. All he has to do is say he really wants to come here...
I expect the worst case scenario. Pitt's pretty much showing they're fine with the negative publicity, despite 2 new articles popping up every day. I don't know what progress, if any, Roy has made with the Pitt administration, but this doesn't really look like it's going to work in our favor. Just the delaying the inevitable.
JMO.
JMO.
He'll be playing fir us next season. Pitt is in a no win situation. He's graduated and been a good representative for their university He isn't going to be playing for them next year, regardless of what they do. So all this negative publicity just makes them seem petty. In the end, I think they will see this and release him to play next year.
I hope you are right.
The problem is, the longer they wait, the less good it does to release him, because the "damage" has been so publicized. A quick turnaround is like a quick apology. It wipes the slate pretty clean. But the longer they wait, the more it will look like a grudging, forced apology, which no one will believe is sincere. It won't undo the damage.
Or at least that's how Pitt may view it.
If you think the damage is already done, there's little incentive to change course. You still have the (dubious) benefit of not setting a precedent that could be used against you in the future to challenge other transfer/release rulings.
People are overestimating this "negative publicity". Pitt's already in the pits (pun slightly intended) anyway. They can't really go any further done at this point.
Yeah, I'm afraid the publicity impact may be overestimated as there's really no tangible downside for Pitt, and as some have said, the public attention span will eventually wane.
That being said, I can't help but like our friend @Steat 's eternal optimism on this, so who knows?... maybe it'll still work out...
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I thought the same about Tiger Woods. Keep hope alive!
Yeah, as always I'm still hoping to be pleasantly surprised in this case.
Pitt was not an original member of the ACC... Therefore, their lack of understanding what real First Class Actions look like is apparent. I secretly hope that the young man visits and decides to attend UNC. Then, the entire world will know about Pitt NOW!
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