Very little stuff (Pitt game)...

[gary-7]

...and sorry guys, this time I just can't.

When I had to endure watching us butcher another game we should win by double-digits, I'm just not up for analysis.

Now granted, we missed JWash --- oh Good Lord, did we miss JWash... and granted, it was a horrifically one-sided officiating buttf***ing in which we never saw the bonus despite being fouled on every possession... BUT having to watch our guys so often have no idea what they're trying to accomplish as we continually come down with no blue shirts stressing the rim, and/or guys having hands-of-stone or unable to finish or even continue to the right place to receive a pass when we did.......
just nope, can't do it.

So. sorry again, I'll just go back and nostalgically rewatch my Secondary Break GIF or something. I'm out til the weekend...

 

[trimbornunc86]

LOL gary. I really do like your posts and I dont tend to disagree with majority of your stuff.. But danm near every time you write about a loss and even a win your always complaining about the officiating.... Every game is going to have good and bad calls I get it but man, it sounds like an excuse when the real problem is the crappy team out there not performing every game

 

[Burnout189]

Damn , even Gary isn't immune to the apathy anymore. This team has just become not-fun and frustrating to watch.

 

[RP12]

Always appreciate your posts Gary as I can’t quite see the game from a coaching POV but totally feel that where you’re coming from.

One thing I noticed with EC (he’s by far my favorite player on this team) on defense is he seems to more visibly relax and then tighten when his man gets the ball, in that explosive way that he does everything. Seems like that visible movement might make him more likely to pick up fouls regardless of the actual contact. I’m sure it also is bothersome to ball handlers and helps him pick up steals and deflections. Do you see that in him and if so what is the adjustment that the staff should be helping him make?

 

[Bubspub88]

Last 3 losses UNC is 25/33 from the line while opponents are 57/71. The Heels have had had ONE big score in double digits in those 3 games. Last night Carolina's starting backcourt had more turnovers than the entire Pitt team.

This team's identity is "spurts of really good basketball". There is nothing they do well. They showed a stat last night that UNC has had 9 one-possession games. I cannot recall but it seems the score has been close going into the final 4 minutes in every game except maybe 3.

This team cannot finish games. Between lack of leadership on the court and what appears to be a lack of confidence in the staff this team just looks like they expect to lose now. I will probably watch the game Saturday but I expect a total beatdown. Dook's frontcourt will absolutely eat us alive.

 

[Kool1234567]

...and sorry guys, this time I just can't.

When I had to endure watching us butcher another game we should win by double-digits, I'm just not up for analysis.

Now granted, we missed JWash --- oh Good Lord, did we miss JWash... and granted, it was a horrifically one-sided officiating buttf***ing in which we never saw the bonus despite being fouled on every possession... BUT having to watch our guys so often have no idea what they're trying to accomplish as we continually come down with no blue shirts stressing the rim, and/or guys having hands-of-stone or unable to finish or even continue to the right place to receive a pass when we did.......
just nope, can't do it.

So. sorry again, I'll just go back and nostalgically rewatch my Secondary Break GIF or something. I'm out til the weekend...

You might want to skip what is going to happen Saturday….BloodBath on the way…

 

[Indy_Heel]

Does Hubert tell Seth to never give the ball up on a fast break no matter what? Most selfish player I’ve seen at UNC when it comes to that. It always leads to him taking a difficult shot when it shouldn’t. If I was the only guy back trying to stop the fast break I would ‘t even worry about him giving the ball up and just guard him.

Has Lubin ever made one shot off a move he made or all of his shots off no dribble layups and dunks. That guy has no handles whatsoever. Every time he tried a move last night he turned the ball over.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Let me fill in where Gary has left off.

We have no identity. We have no offense. It's bad throughout the game but it seems that Hubert tries very hard to make it worse down the stretch of games. We stand around pounding the ball into the floor until 8 seconds left on the shot clock when someone has to try to beat their man. It's embarrassing. It's dreadful coaching.

As the season goes on, for the life of me, I can't understand how Hubert has gotten these guys to come play for him. He seems to have no direction. What is he selling the players? What is he selling the parents? Anyone with any basketball knowledge whatsoever knows this isn't a personnel problem. Sure, we missed on some guys. I get that. We've talked about that. We probably should have said goodbye to Davis and done whatever we could have to keep Ingram or sign a big time center. We obviously wasted a large amount of money on Cade Tyson, who does not belong on an ACC court. Huge miss in evaluation of talent there. But all that aside, we have enough talent to not look like this. In other words, we're worse than our talent would suggest. The whole is worse than the sum of its parts.

This has to be it for Hubert. I just don't see what justification can be used to keep him around. The program is embarrassing itself right now.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

granted, it was a horrifically one-sided officiating buttf***ing in which we never saw the bonus despite being fouled on every possession...

I never engage in ref-bashing but are you kidding me? TWO attempts by RJ, ZERO by Elliot, ZERO by Lubin?

GMAFB

 

[DSouthr]

Yet again, defeat snatched from the jaws of victory...

Tiny team, one of the smallest teams in D-1 ball, got even smaller by JWash being out, so what do we do to help this, we play our most athletic big man a total of 3mins, in those 3min he scored 5pts. Lubin, once again, played hard but the combination of his being so under sized and logging 32mins means he gets worn out late in the game. Near the end of BOTH halves we go in to scoring and defensive slumps.

Seth yet another double double, he didn't shoot well but back to back 12 board games is tuff tuff for a 6'3" wing. Assist totals for Cadeau and RJ looked good, RJ was efficient shooting going 6-12, 3-6 from trey while handing out 5 assists, Cadeau 5-10, but only 1-6 from trey, add his 7 assists. Yet, this doesn't speak to their guards whipping our little guards on the other end. Maybe RJ needs to change from those pink shoes, can't seem to stay on his feet, he is falling down out of no where last few games?

Simply, to often it looks like we are a boat without a rudder. Small team that does not dictate tempo or jump shoot consistently and ends up having to play way to much half court, we don't create a lot of TOs with steels or blocks. our guards to drive effectively when they have a lane but are as well known to drive in to the teeth of defense and we did so over and over last night.

On to duke, not looking forward to this one coming up, could get real ugly real quick.

 

[sdingeldein]

The composition of the team is flawed, for sure. Small guards, no real power presence on the inside. I didn't see the first half but saw the second half and what I saw was too much dribbling, bad turnovers at bad times. Agree the officiating was one-sided. RJ got absolutely hammered going to the basket late in the game (replay showed it clearly) and no call. We can blame HD - and ultimately the buck stops with him - but the players deserve some blame. Unless you think HD lied in his post game, they aren't listening to what he is telling them and doing their own thing when they want to. I continue to say there is a "locker room" issue with this team. I'm more convinced of it than ever.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Unless you think HD lied in his post game, they aren't listening to what he is telling them and doing their own thing when they want to.

I think Hubert lied. Either that, or he is terrible at communicating what he wants them to do. Because if a player is going rogue, then any good coach would promptly sit them down and replace them with someone that will do what he is instructing. But he's not doing that. And frankly, what kind of coach keeps blaming the players? Mick Cronin. And apparently Hubert.

If the players aren't doing what he instructs, it's a coaching problem. The composition of the team is a coaching problem. The offense we run (or lack thereof) is a coaching problem. The terrible execution down the stretch is a coaching problem. In fact, I can't think of anything having to do with a college basketball team that's not a coaching problem. You're the coach - FIX THE GODDAM PROBLEM!

 

[DSouthr]

Hubert Davis, if you or someone you know happens to read this, at this point we have nothing to lose, our chance at the NCAAT seems now to be down to our winning the ACCT and we can agree that is more mountain than hill as is now. May offer a couple suggestions...

1) How about we now stop all this auto switching on defense, how about we now teach players to fight thru screens and switch only when it is the very last resort? How about we teach the players, when one guy leaves to try to double that we rotate someone to fill?

2) How about we realize that the smaller team is at a disadvantage in half court and it slows tempo. So why not use a quickness advantage a smaller team has, using much more pressure across the full court, speed the other team up. Pitt basically played 6 guys last night and yet if anything they looked like the fresher team?

3) How about our most athletic big man in JWit get reasonable minutes, maybe reconsider having Drake at 6'6" as a freshman and around 205lbs move to his real position at the 3/2? Why not at least try to even out the length and size disadvantage we go in to every game with as best we can?

4) How about we instruct our guards and especially RJ to not pound the air out of the ball in a half court offense and rather go directly on the attack if a break ops is not there?

5) How about we share with all our players that turning your head away from the ball makes it really hard to see the ball and if you can see the ball you can not defend it?

6) Can we now maybe revisit the UNC free lance motion offense and maybe not camp guys in each deep corner, especially guys that are not knock down shooter? This spread offense does not seem to be spreading, the driving lanes are not clearing so maybe we get those guys stuck in the deep corner moving and setting screens in sync with our ball handlers?


Hubert, what do you have to lose at this point, maybe leave what ever it is you are trying to do and go back to what worked under Roy while you were his assistant coach? The suggestion being what ya doing ain't working, maybe it is time to stop defining the meaning of the word insanity?

 

[DSouthr]

The composition of the team is flawed, for sure. Small guards, no real power presence on the inside. I didn't see the first half but saw the second half and what I saw was too much dribbling, bad turnovers at bad times. Agree the officiating was one-sided. RJ got absolutely hammered going to the basket late in the game (replay showed it clearly) and no call. We can blame HD - and ultimately the buck stops with him - but the players deserve some blame. Unless you think HD lied in his post game, they aren't listening to what he is telling them and doing their own thing when they want to. I continue to say there is a "locker room" issue with this team. I'm more convinced of it than ever.

LOL, of course there is a locker room issue, there always is on a team losing like this, there SHOULD be a locker room issue for any team with no leadership...

Know what is crystal clear, as I wrote in a post yesterday, these players all love Hubert but they simply do not respect him. You simply will not have a coach say in a PC that his players are not doing what he tells them to do and a a team that respects that coach. If they respect and trust their coach they will do what he tells them to do.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Everybody talks about too much dribbling. Not that I disagree, but we act as though the dribblers have other good options. Do they really?

Even in a bad game like this one, Elliot had 7 assists, RJ had 5 and Trimble had 2. It's not like they are unwilling to pass. But who do they pass to? Who gets open? Who can be counted on to catch it? Who can be counted on to be ready to do something with it?

You'd think we could do more brisk passing around the perimeter than dribbling around the perimeter, but it's often the case that only 2 perimeter guys are in good position on the perimeter - when it's so often that 3rd pass that yields good results.

One of the things I noticed in the Pitt game was how often their tall guy was distributing the ball from a mid-to-high post position. Do we have someone like that? There was a time I thought JWit could be used that way, but we don't use him that way, so who knows?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

This spread offense does not seem to be spreading

Bingo.

 

[NathanFielder]

This is obviously a very limited basketball team and the majority of their conference games will come down to executing in the final 2-3 minutes. And that's been the recurring issue all season and @ Pitt was no different.

Credit to Pitt. They had a really sound defensive game plan in the second half. They switched ball screens to kill the primary drive and flatten UNC out. Then they helped off the strong side corner to limit drives and Cadeau and Seth missed perimeter shots all day. That's how every team should defend UNC. Pitt did a really good job executing and UNC had no answers.

- Credit to Cadeau for making a ridiculously difficult lefty layup but that was off poor execution. Kind of got lucky on the layup. (UNC's final points of the game at 3:23)
- Cadeau with the dumbest turnover (I think it got credited to Lubin). Trying to thread the needle and hit a home run bounce pass to a below average big. Just a moronic decision and signs that Cadeau still has such a long way to go and makes mistakes he shouldn't make in year 2.
- Over helping off a 40% 3PT shooter, in the corner. Just bad defense and likely poor scouting report defense too. Have to stay attached to that shooter.
- The strongside help off Cadeau I mentioned earlier. Cadeau thought he could make a 3 over a dude a foot taller than him.
- Great pass from Cadeau to Seth and Seth misses a layup he probably finishes 7/8 times out of 10. Been that type of season

And that's the difference between wins and losses. Again, this team is going to play in these tight games late. It all comes down to how they execute in those final stretches. The Pitt game was poor again.

Also, Cadeau and Trimble are now sub 30% 3PT shooters. Gross. They obviously both contribute in other ways, but their shooting just isn't good enough.

That Cadeau pass to Lubin late in the game. Galaxy brain stuff right there.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

LOL, of course there is a locker room issue, there always is on a team losing like this, there SHOULD be a locker room issue for any team with no leadership...

Know what is crystal clear, as I wrote in a post yesterday, these players all love Hubert but they simply do not respect him. You simply will not have a coach say in a PC that his players are not doing what he tells them to do and a a team that respects that coach. If they r

I said previously that I was surprised that there hadn't been a team meeting (no staff).

I fear the reason may be that there's not enough fire among the players and no leaders.

Or, I suppose, it could be that the team loves Hubert and agrees that they suck, so they're just waiting for Hubert to rescue them.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Cadeau with the dumbest turnover (I think it got credited to Lubin). Trying to thread the needle and hit a home run bounce pass to a below average big. Just a moronic decision and signs that Cadeau still has such a long way to go and makes mistakes he shouldn't make in year 2.

I don't disagree, but if you blame the passer for not knowing his target can't catch a pass, then how many guys do we have that Elliot is allowed to pass to?

Rather than tell Elliot not to make the highlight pass, I'd work on getting our bigs to catch and control the ball better. Are there elements of practice that focus on that? If so, Lubin and some others need to spend more time on that.

 

[NathanFielder]

I don't disagree, but if you blame the passer for not knowing his target can't catch a pass, then how many guys do we have that Elliot is allowed to pass to?

Rather than tell Elliot not to make the highlight pass, I'd work on getting our bigs to catch and control the ball better. Are there elements of practice that focus on that? If so, Lubin and some others need to spend more time on that.

The point guard has the ball in his hands. He is the decision maker. He made a bad decision.

I'm not going to defend a PG for making a bounce pass through traffic at the feet of a big man running the floor. Terrible execution number one. Even worse decision number 2.

And I will tell Elliot... In that game situation where possessions are precious and important... Do not make the highlight pass.

 

[montana_heel]

Dsouthr. I totally agree about switching screens and have been railing against it for a few years now. Just terrible. Would rather have a mindset of fighting through them instead of switching until your opponent gets the matchup they want. Also makes it hard to protect someone in foul trouble. Can't put Cadeau on a guy who only shoots outside when he will get switched on to a more versatile player.

Cadeau is so baffling to me. We need his skill to win. You see the half court offense stagnates when he is out. Yet he does things to lose games. Foul trouble, crazy highlight passes and even worse, just lazy no thinking passes. He is either high or low. No middle ground. I underestimated his speed through. Hate to guess just how good he could be with improvement in these 3 areas.

1. 3 point shooting. Talk about opening up the court for himself if they had to actually come out and guard him

2. Realize time and score. Save the highlight reel passes for when you are up 20. I think people who know something about basketball really appreciate his pass aheads and swinging the ball to get defensive movement. In other words, make the simple pass with your great vision.

3. Don't put yourself in position to get cheap fouls. Don't care if they are ticky tak or not. You put yourself in a spot for them to be called. You can't help on the bench.

Hope we get Cadeau for another year and he gains some maturity. He has shown the ability of great court awareness at times. Just this year he is either through the roof or in the basement with no in between. Next year might benefit him with a taller guard playing the 2. My hope is he would be the unquestioned leader which I think we are missing right now.

 

[gunslingerdick]

I don't disagree, but if you blame the passer for not knowing his target can't catch a pass, then how many guys do we have that Elliot is allowed to pass to?

Rather than tell Elliot not to make the highlight pass, I'd work on getting our bigs to catch and control the ball better. Are there elements of practice that focus on that? If so, Lubin and some others need to spend more time on that.

Knowing your personnel is a huge part of being a PG. A real floor general is the guy that accentuates a player’s strengths and is aware of and makes decisions based on, his teammates’s weaknesses. EC has played with Lubin long enough to know that he can’t catch that pass. No amount of trining and practice at this point is going to help Lubin catch that pass. It’s not to say that Lubin can’t catch any pass. But EC has to know he can’t catch that pass.

 

[big_deez]

Last 3 losses UNC is 25/33 from the line while opponents are 57/71. The Heels have had had ONE big score in double digits in those 3 games. Last night Carolina's starting backcourt had more turnovers than the entire Pitt team.

This team's identity is "spurts of really good basketball". There is nothing they do well. They showed a stat last night that UNC has had 9 one-possession games. I cannot recall but it seems the score has been close going into the final 4 minutes in every game except maybe 3.

This team cannot finish games. Between lack of leadership on the court and what appears to be a lack of confidence in the staff this team just looks like they expect to lose now. I will probably watch the game Saturday but I expect a total beatdown. Dook's frontcourt will absolutely eat us alive.

Bubs, right on. As a big TH bball fan, I never miss games so I'll certainly watch on Saturday. However I agree, this could get ugly so sometime towards the end of the second half, I may shut it off. No one wants to see that over exagerated fan base gloating. TBH, I'm a Copper fan, dude has game, don't care if he is a dookie, but hope he goes 0 for 20....

 

[heels05champs]

This team, this coaching staff and by extension this administration has made me lose the joy I always had watching Carolina basketball. I don’t even recognize the junk I see being displayed and apathy has set in when I expect us to lose against any competition with a pulse. What a sad state of affairs for what used to be such a premier program.

Hubert, if you truly love the program the way you say you do, please self-reflect and address it head on or opt out of the HC gig. This kind of garbage basketball is not what your Carolina predecessors instilled in you.

 

[notashelbyfan]

BUT having to watch our guys so often have no idea what they're trying to accomplish

This is the entire story in 16 words.

That's 100% coaching, and it appears to be getting worse.

We are way to good at times during the game to blame this all on talent, or size.

I said this before anytime you are as competitive against the quality of team we have played and always come up short late game it's a coaching problem. He has decent game plains and the first time they make a change to counter what we are doing the staff is lost.

Im over it and I would guess about 95% of the fan base is also over it.

 

[big_deez]

This is the entire story in 16 words.

That's 100% coaching, and it appears to be getting worse.

We are way to good at times during the game to blame this all on talent, or size.

I said this before anytime you are as competitive against the quality of team we have played and always come up short late game it's a coaching problem. He has decent game plains and the first time they make a change to counter what we are doing the staff is lost.

Im over it and I would guess about 95% of the fan base is also over it.

Yea great summary statement by Gary but your response to it was really spot on. It's surely something a lot of people are thinking. Great reply

 

[39 Feet Above Sea Level]

I don’t blame Gary for the abbreviated quick stuff. These losses of similar strain are just so hard to watch,
especially for someone who has played and coached the sport.
We are an unbalanced team, with top tier guards, albeit on the short side who DO NOT get their fair share
of calls on drives to the rim. No wonder defenders just clobber them; nothing to lose when you’re not
likely to get whistled.

Our bigs have a variety of deficiencies who cannot get into game flow with the substitution patterns
and we needed J Wash big time last night. I hope he returns quickly to the lineup.

We fight hard (mostly), but our turnovers seem to be instant points for our opponents. Our confidence
late in close games seems to waver; that serves us poorly.
Our schedule has been wacky, with five losses to top 15 teams.

Lastly, as many on this board have stated, Hubert and his staff seem to be struggling with systemic problems,
lineups, recruiting the portal, and working the refs to get “fair” officiating.

After 50 years of watching Carolina’s sports teams, this alum knows nothing but supporting the
athletes that play for my university - win or lose. I will continue to do that and hope that these
guys find some success this season.

 

[al would]

Maybe RJ needs to change from those pink shoes,

Them's "bubble gum" colored shoes and they's the ugliest color shoe I've ever seen !!!

 

[dtodd4475]

Shot it lights out in the 1st half (6-12 from3/ I think 55% overall), but only up by 2 at the half, bad sign. Pitt extended on dee in 2nd half (1 -12 from 3 ouch).

Elliot played really well, but 2 silly diving fouls on loose balls, and the ill advised dime considering time, score, target was a killer. Really was a key if not the key play. You can't try to thread that needle with that game scenario. As a point you have to know who you are throwing it to as well. Tough catch low on the run for any big, but Lubin not good hands to start with no chance he catches that unless it's perfect. Poor situation awareness.

RJ played fairly well, down the stretch nobody could get a look and his lack of size as the bail out option was a killer. Pitt had him covered with long defenders. Lubin's missed point blank spin out after his dime was the nail in the coffin. Seth had a chance to keep a last gasp alive, missed semi contested point blank and tip after. Ball game.

Had a chance for a huge road win, was anemic down the stretch. Dook looms.

 

[notashelbyfan]

Shot it lights out in the 1st half (6-12 from3/ I think 55% overall), but only up by 2 at the half, bad sign. Pitt extended on dee in 2nd half (1 -12 from 3 ouch).

Elliot played really well, but 2 silly diving fouls on loose balls, and the ill advised dime considering time, score, target was a killer. Really was a key if not the key play. You can't try to thread that needle with that game scenario. As a point you have to know who you are throwing it to as well. Tough catch low on the run for any big, but Lubin not good hands to start with no chance he catches that unless it's perfect. Poor situation awareness.

RJ played fairly well, down the stretch nobody could get a look and his lack of size as the bail out option was a killer. Pitt had him covered with long defenders. Lubin's missed point blank spin out after his dime was the nail in the coffin. Seth had a chance to keep a last gasp alive, missed semi contested point blank and tip after. Ball game.

Had a chance for a huge road win, was anemic down the stretch. Dook looms.

I think we don't get good looks late because we don't work to find open shooters, the only one on the floor that will man up and take a shot when no one else takes charge is RJ and every team knows this.

Rarely do you see us swinging the ball around the key to get the defense moving. One time last night Pitt made 3 passes around the key and the first pass made for an open shot and every pass after that the look got better and better, we don't do that.

We allow the other team to guard us watch them they is very little moving without the ball lots of standing around watching.

 

[al would]

RJ played fairly well, down the stretch nobody could get a look and his lack of size as the bail out option was a killer.

yeah .. our small guards, and lack of overall size has been a glaring, and exploited, problem all season. And the way it has been coached or used is likely even worse. I didn't even watch the game last night cause I like Carolina bball and unfortunately it's been missing here lately .. sad but true ..

 

[NathanFielder]

I think we don't get good looks late because we don't work to find open shooters, the only one on the floor that will man up and take a shot when no one else takes charge is RJ and every team knows this.

Rarely do you see us swinging the ball around the key to get the defense moving. One time last night Pitt made 3 passes around the key and the first pass made for an open shot and every pass after that the look got better and better, we don't do that.

We allow the other team to guard us watch them they is very little moving without the ball lots of standing around watching.

They also have limited offensive players.

Cadeau is an inconsistent limited offensive player and he doesn’t have enough offensively gifted players around him for the “he makes everyone around him better” to make that big of a difference with this team.

Seth’s efficiency has tanked post concussion. He isn’t scoring unless he gets to the FT line. Fortunately he’s getting there but late game but he’s entering liability range from 3PT territory. And he was always a limited offensive player.

Pitt made a good defensive adjustment. You can freely switch ball screens against UNC and simply help off of Cadeau and Seth, whichever is on the strongside wing.

It’s a difficult route to effective offense if Cadeau and Seth are 0 shooters. The only other option is for this team to get a ton of offensive rebounds but that clearly isn’t going to happen this season.

It’s a limited team to begin with. Then add that some players are struggling. And a HC who doesn’t look like he has solutions.

A team problem and no one should be excused.

 

[thompsjj]

Cadeau has a terrible dilemma. He is a pass first first point guard, precisely why Hubert recruited him after the RJ/Caleb experience. Who can he pass to? RJ and Ian have defenders all over them, Drake seems to have lost his starting position, Seth is having shooting struggles, J Wash is out with an injury... The defenders are also guarding Elliot more closely this year. I can can't say how Elliot feels but I can say that I would be unbelievably frustrated if I was in his position.

 

[gteeitup]

I think we don't get good looks late because we don't work to find open shooters, the only one on the floor that will man up and take a shot when no one else takes charge is RJ and every team knows this.

Rarely do you see us swinging the ball around the key to get the defense moving. One time last night Pitt made 3 passes around the key and the first pass made for an open shot and every pass after that the look got better and better, we don't do that.

We allow the other team to guard us watch them they is very little moving without the ball lots of standing around watching.

this ^^^

over rj shooting a deep three because that’s all that is perceived to be there.

 

[Ozheelfan]

I understand your hesitation to rehash the same old mistakes Gary....

I used to say: "Luckily I got to watch this one".....
but now its just: "yeah, I watched it"

As others have stated, the team is what it is..... but they are not playing to whatever strengths they have, and they seemingly have not been coached to their strengths all season.

What are their strengths? Speed, speed, speed. Yes, the backcourt is short, but it is also fast, skilled and deep but this has not been used to good effect all year.

I am of the opinion a change is needed. I'm sorry for Hubert, seems like a great guy, loves UNC but is looking well out of his depth. I personally would like to see him gracefully exit as opposed to being fired.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Cadeau has a terrible dilemma. He is a pass first first point guard, precisely why Hubert recruited him after the RJ/Caleb experience. Who can he pass to? RJ and Ian have defenders all over them, Drake seems to have lost his starting position, Seth is having shooting struggles, J Wash is out with an injury... The defenders are also guarding Elliot more closely this year. I can can't say how Elliot feels but I can say that I would be unbelievably frustrated if I was in his position.

This was my point, too. Whether we're talking about EC making "questionable" passes or RJ over-dribbling, if their teammates aren't getting open, what choices do they have?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

While these aren't the only possibilities, they look like the main ones...

Either

We are a top tier team (in a weak conference) but we are under-performing,

or

We are a middle-of-the-pack team and we're doing the best we can.

Which of those is more correct could determine whether Hubert gets to stay coach.

Which do you think is more true?

 

[notashelbyfan]

While these aren't the only possibilities, they look like the main ones...

Either

We are a top tier team (in a weak conference) but we are under-performing,

or

We are a middle-of-the-pack team and we're doing the best we can.

Which of those is more correct could determine whether Hubert gets to stay coach.

Which do you think is more true?

Our talent is better than our record!

 

[RP12]

This was my point, too. Whether we're talking about EC making "questionable" passes or RJ over-dribbling, if their teammates aren't getting open, what choices do they have?

This is what folks seem to miss. 80% of this team’s good shots are coming from EC making a play happen, many of which only he can see/execute. He has to take chances because for the most part everyone is standing still and there is obviously little to no inside out pressure on the defense.

 

[sctarheel30]

Explaining on the bad officiating theory. If in fact that’s happening and man it seems very likely it’s probably not gonna get any better for two reasons. one we play dook next don’t expect any favors there second if there’s more talks about leaving the ACC we won’t get any breaks as far as calls going our way.