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Very Quick Stuff (Wake game PT 2)

I have concluded that even though a more experienced head coach could have done better with these guys our problem isn't x's and o's it's the Jimmy's and the Joe's!
 
Now do Caleb. Not wanting to pile on but he gets to the rim alot, puts up what looks like a good shot that just doesn't go in as much as it should.
None of Caleb's stats are all that surprising.

At the rim: 55.6%
Non at-the rim 2's: 37.4%

Caleb ranks 112th of all players who have attempted 100 "far 2's" according to BartTolvik
Good lord RJ and Caleb shoot a lot of long 2's, lol.

Of players who have attemped 150 3PA, Caleb has the second worst percentage (96th of 97)
 
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Only thing this team is going to turn on when the tournament starts is the TV to watch it cause they're going nowhere at this rate.
An argument could be made that this team had a higher ceiling if Black would have graduated and Nance didn’t transfer here. Black contributes nearly nothing on the offensive end most games and Nance is a square peg in a round hole at the PF position. I would have preferred Puff, Nickel and others eating up those PF and SF minutes.
 
I just did some stat digging. This one was eye popping to me.

Armando Bacot FG% at the rim
2023: 63%
2022: 65%
2021: 68%
2020: 60%

So Bacot has been a below average finisher at the rim for a big guy.

Last year, Manek was 80% at the rim. That was second best in the country for players who attempted at least 100 FGA at the rim, only behind Chet Holmgren.

So we kind of have this image of what Bacot is, and he really isn't that. This team gets more interesting the more you dig in, lol. Manek was that freaking valuable last year.
This doesn't surprise me. Like you said, AB is productive, but not proficient or a star scoring big man. He will dunk it if he's alone wide open, and he's generally OK if he can somehow get a shot up on the glass without being blocked....
but there is nothing and I mean absolutely nothing in his game that can outjump outmuscle outquick a legit big athletic D1 defender. In fact he often gets defended easily by smaller guys.

You can't question his heart, results, loyalty to the team and the University though. AB is the least of this team's issues. He gives everything he has...he just doesn't have the physical gifts of many of his D1 peers. Which make his accomplishments that much more commendable
 
How can any fan of North Carolina blame Bacot? The dude is a beast, he plays hard, he rebounds and is a nice presence inside. The problem is that other teams really don't respect the outside shooting. You guys have no consistent shooting threats and Bacot imo is being left out to dry. I mean the past few games when I've watched a lot I've never seen so many guys wide open missing 3 after 3. Against Pitt for example why the hell was Leaky Black standing in the corner waiting to shoot a 3 when he shoots under 30% from there? Is this some kind of set play Hubert runs?

It's things like that that show me UNC is not coached well and don't have the necessary shooters needed.

I think the NIT is where this team will end up.
 
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I just did some stat digging. This one was eye popping to me.

Armando Bacot FG% at the rim
2023: 63%
2022: 65%
2021: 68%
2020: 60%

So Bacot has been a below average finisher at the rim for a big guy.

Last year, Manek was 80% at the rim. That was second best in the country for players who attempted at least 100 FGA at the rim, only behind Chet Holmgren.

So we kind of have this image of what Bacot is, and he really isn't that. This team gets more interesting the more you dig in, lol. Manek was that freaking valuable last year.
This stat does Not surprise me. I have been yelling FINISH MANDO for 4 years.
 
Or lift. He is a below average two foot leaper.
Barely gets his toes off the floor most times and doesn't really have that great a touch tbh. Prolly why he may well have limited pro potential. He needed/needs range and he doesn't have that shot either.
 
I am a RJ fan, his last three games after the Cuse physical blow has been by far his worst 3 game span since the freshman year shit show under Roy where there was no clue. He has to get right as the shooter, just has to. He is THE target on dee.

4 for 18 3's ain't winning anything. That is with the whipping boy Caleb being 4-9, 0-9 otherwise as a team behind the stripe. The bench was very BAD, it is up to RJ, Caleb, and Mando to score if they will compete for a run. 1 has been solid not great, 1 is middling, and 1 has been awful of late. They lost 2 of the 3 in the last 30 Seconds.

Same spot as last year now, don't act like the Manek team was performig better at this point, they were not, exact same scenario now, gotta finish strong. Bubblicious !!!!
 
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It seems like RJ lost something at Syracuse. I recall he competed really hard on the defensive end vs Minz even with the screens. He got beat at times but he stood well at times too. The physical toll on him was evident and maybe that has tempered his desire to stick his nose in there on defense? Dislocated or re- injured finger on shooting hand; cut over his eye the elbow & collision drawing the charge when he was down. Hopefully he gets right again sooner rather than later. He was playing at a high level for several weeks before
 
It seems like RJ lost something at Syracuse. I recall he competed really hard on the defensive end vs Minz even with the screens. He got beat at times but he stood well at times too. The physical toll on him was evident and maybe that has tempered his desire to stick his nose in there on defense? Dislocated or re- injured finger on shooting hand; cut over his eye the elbow & collision drawing the charge when he was down. Hopefully he gets right again sooner rather than later. He was playing at a high level for several weeks before
He is the shooter, has a hard time creating space, but with a clean look a shooter. He has struggled lately shooting. The finger is legit, but that is his strength as a player with room knock down.

I do think teams have targeted him defensively, he plays very hard, and reverts to pulling in, head flopping/ snapping on contact, taking contact is his go to. That does take a toll on any one, smaller bodies more. He is going through a very rough patch. Hopefully he gets a second wind physically.
 
That is crap. Where would we be without Armando. Tough to work inside when the lane is collapsed due to opponents rather seeing you shoot outside.

Makes me question people's basketball acumen when they start attacking our best player who is in the running for 1st team ACC.

Maybe think before you post!

Guess you aren't anything if you're not player of the year candidate.
 
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That is crap. Where would we be without Armando. Tough to work inside when the lane is collapsed due to opponents rather seeing you shoot outside.

Makes me question people's basketball acumen when they start attacking our best player who is in the running for 1st team ACC.

Maybe think before you post!

Guess you aren't anything if you're not player of the year candidate.
Relax. No one is saying he isn’t good or an all conference player. I was just making a statement based on his statistics.
 
Relax. No one is saying he isn’t good or an all conference player. I was just making a statement based on his statistics.
Surround him with players that can actually shoot consistently from outside and his stats would be all the much better. Not his fault at all.
 
I am a RJ fan, his last three games after the Cuse physical blow has been by far his worst 3 game span since the freshman year shit show under Roy where there was no clue. He has to get right as the shooter, just has to. He is THE target on dee.

4 for 18 3's ain't winning anything. That is with the whipping boy Caleb being 4-9, 0-9 otherwise as a team behind the stripe. The bench was very BAD, it is RJ, Caleb, and Mando if they will compete. 1 has been solid not great, 1 is middling, and 1 has been awful. They lost 2 of the 3 in the last 30 Seconds.

Same spot as last year now, don't act like the Manek team was performig better at this point, they were not, exact same scenario now, gotta finish strong. Bubblicious !!!!
Manek didn't start until almost halfway or maybe halfway through the season. If Manek had started the whole season, they would have never been on the bubble. So no, this isn't the same team. That team was much better.
 
Mando has to take shots while focused on in the paint, contested,not only when he breaks free for backdoor, or put back. Truly apples to oranges on comparing FG% at rim with Manek. No value in that comparison whatsoever.
 
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Manek didn't start until almost halfway or maybe halfway through the season. If Manek had started the whole season, they would have never been on the bubble. So no, this isn't the same team. That team was much better.
Incorrect. UNC had major defensive issues at the beginning of the year. That had nothing to do with Manek. It guarded absolutely no one.
 
Incorrect. UNC had major defensive issues at the beginning of the year. That had nothing to do with Manek. It guarded absolutely no one.
I'm not wrong sir.

So you're saying when we lost to Purdue it had nothing to do with Manek? Manek had 6 points that game. What about when we got hammered by Kentucky when Manek only scored 7? What about Notre Dame when he scored 9? Miami when he scored 7?

Every game we lost was a result to having to share time with Garcia and the offense not being able to open up and spread the floor like it was once it meshed when Brady took over full time. Once Brady took over full time, he scored in DOUBLE FIGURES EVERY GAME EXCEPT 1!!! Prior to that he had 7 games where he didn't reach double figures in scoring.

Prior to Brady taking over full time, we were struggling against cupcakes Brown and College of Charleston.

Im not saying you're wrong about our defense being worse, but to say we wasn't better once Brady took over full time is foolish.
 
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I'm not wrong sir.

So you're saying when we lost to Purdue it had nothing to do with Manek? Manek had 6 points that game. What about when we got hammered by Kentucky when Manek only scored 7? What about Notre Dame when he scored 9? Miami when he scored 7?

Every game we lost was a result to having to share time with Garcia and the offense not being able to open up and spread the floor like it was once it meshed when Brady took over full time. Once Brady took over full time, he scored in DOUBLE FIGURES EVERY GAME EXCEPT 1!!! Prior to that he had 7 games where he didn't reach double figures in scoring.

Prior to Brady taking over full time, we were struggling against cupcakes Brown and College of Charleston.

Im not saying you're wrong about our defense being worse, but to say we wasn't better once Brady took over full time is foolish.
My post is talking about defense and how Manek being on or off the court didn't affect the defense at that point then. The defense was getting blitzed from top down regularly which led to some very ugly blowout losses. When we turned it around, our defense was ranked number 1 in the entire country from of February 17th til the like 3rd round of the ncaa tournament.

Nobody is questioning Maneks contributions offensively. What is being questioned is that if Manek had played from the start we wouldn't have been a bubble team. The problem wasn't Manek wasn't playing, the problem was the defense. RJ nor Caleb could stay in front of everyone, whether by design or not. Guards regularly blew past our defenders for easy layups and open dunks without a back line even being there. The defense was broken then regardless of Manek or not.

RJ and Caleb, as well as Manek, were mostly elite defenders from February 17th on last year.

Ball handling and dealing with pressure was the achilles heel to our team last year. Our defense was great at the end. Our offense was easy to tell how it was going. We had a 3 headed monster on the perimeter which couldn't possibly lose if all 3 were on. And more than likely won if just 2 of the 3 were on.
 
Also, it is important to note that we basically switched everything down the stretch last year and this year we are getting absolutely torn apart by screens (we generally aren't switching them now, or hedging them, or contesting them).
 
Also, it is important to note that we basically switched everything down the stretch last year and this year we are getting absolutely torn apart by screens (we generally aren't switching them now, or hedging them, or contesting them).
That’s the problem I have with people calling out rj on defense. Lol if you are screened and there is no help, then anyone would look bad. They continue to go at him realizing there is zero help. Nance doesn’t have a clue on defense and that’s who they attack with rj.
 
That’s the problem I have with people calling out rj on defense. Lol if you are screened and there is no help, then anyone would look bad. They continue to go at him realizing there is zero help. Nance doesn’t have a clue on defense and that’s who they attack with rj.
I been saying the same. RJs defense is actually strong, but he can't teleport through screens. If there is nothing to slow them down on the other side or stop the shot, its an impossible task.

Bacot hasn't been much better either. He sits too far down so they just take the 3. This is what Cummings would do for Pitt. He is at least cutting off the drive though. Nance didn't communicate that the screener slipped so he wasn't gonna stop the drive of Roach. That solidified our loss to Duke. RJ didn't get beat because he was blown by. He got beat because Nance failed to communicate.
 
I been saying the same. RJs defense is actually strong, but he can't teleport through screens. If there is nothing to slow them down on the other side or stop the shot, its an impossible task.

Bacot hasn't been much better either. He sits too far down so they just take the 3. This is what Cummings would do for Pitt. He is at least cutting off the drive though. Nance didn't communicate that the screener slipped so he wasn't gonna stop the drive of Roach. That solidified our loss to Duke. RJ didn't get beat because he was blown by. He got beat because Nance failed to communicate.
Good points. RJ's size can't be changed. He's not dogging it on D. D is played by a team.
 
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