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Walking Dead - possible SPOILERS!

Thoughts on the finale?

It felt kind of rushed to me. Like the writers knew this season wasn't going over well so they wanted to close the book on it as fast as they could. I thought it deserved a 90-minute finale, but I guess it did what it supposed to do. It just felt anticlimactic. Also, it looks like Maggie is going to be the antagonist for season 9 (if Lauren Cohen signs on). That's cool, I guess, but having Daryl and Jesus agree with her is kind of stupid. Daryl just showed mercy to Dwight by letting him go, and he's all like "yeah, we'll show Rick for letting Negan live." Okay, dude, whatever you say. Jesus has always been Mr. Peacemaker, and now he's supposedly pissed at Rick too. At least Maggie being pissed actually does make sense since Negan murdered her "husband" in front of her. Anyway, looking forward to how season 9 shapes up, hopefully with much better writing.

Jesus never actually said anything though. I’m assuming that he will be trying to talk Maggie down

I’d give it about an 8.5. Honestly the talking dead show after the episode was even more entertaining.

This next season of Fear looks interesting
 
The Maggie, Jesus and Darryl thing made zero sense. Like, absolutely zero sense. Completely idiotic plot line. Maggie, Darryl and Rick have been super close the whole show and

now they are going to be enemies? It goes against the one constant on the show. The original people sticking together even when they disagree. And what exactly are they going to do? Kill them? Banish them? It just doesn't make sense. The fight with Negan and Rick was pretty anti climactic too. Their fight in the dark was better.

So because of all of that I give it a 4/10.
 
The Maggie, Jesus and Darryl thing made zero sense. Like, absolutely zero sense. Completely idiotic plot line. Maggie, Darryl and Rick have been super close the whole show and

now they are going to be enemies? It goes against the one constant on the show. The original people sticking together even when they disagree. And what exactly are they going to do? Kill them? Banish them? It just doesn't make sense. The fight with Negan and Rick was pretty anti climactic too. Their fight in the dark was better.

So because of all of that I give it a 4/10.
Yeah, I tend to side more with you, however...

I think the whole Maggie thing is interesting, but having Daryl agree with her is what was really stupid. I think the plot line is that Maggie is turning into this power hungry bitch now that she's been leader of Hilltop for a while now. Her rage about Negan killing her husband is drowning out her loyalty to Rick, and I can understand that. Daryl, on the other hand, that part is just dumb. Rick and Daryl have essentially been brothers throughout the whole show, and now he's with Maggie all of a sudden? That's what I didn't get.
 
Yeah, I tend to side more with you, however...

I think the whole Maggie thing is interesting, but having Daryl agree with her is what was really stupid. I think the plot line is that Maggie is turning into this power hungry bitch now that she's been leader of Hilltop for a while now. Her rage about Negan killing her husband is drowning out her loyalty to Rick, and I can understand that. Daryl, on the other hand, that part is just dumb. Rick and Daryl have essentially been brothers throughout the whole show, and now he's with Maggie all of a sudden? That's what I didn't get.
Another thing with Maggie. Are they ever going to make her look pregnant? She looks no different. I guess it's going to be a small kid.
 
I think you guys are reading to much into the ominous music that was playing during that scene. I'm pretty sure she just wants to kill Negan, that doesn't mean she wants to stage a coup against Rick
 
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I think you guys are reading to much into the ominous music that was playing during that scene. I'm pretty sure she just wants to kill Negan, that doesn't mean she wants to stage a coup against Rick
Maybe, but Darryl coming out of the shadows like a mob Hitman makes it seem like more than that.
 
I just watched it and I agree the whole Maggie ending was strange. While I can understand her personal motivations, I think it's strange for Jesus and Daryl (even with Daryl butting heads with Rick some this season) to be down with this. It's also not in the comics (not that everything the show does has to come straight from the comics, but still).

I had a feeling Negan would survive (he did in the comics as well, for the record), so it's going to be interesting to see how he is used going forward.
 
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escape just like the comics, restarting the same cycle as the governor showing up again at the prison once rick had become all obsessed with peace. My bet is that he escapes in the middle of Maggie's murder attempt
 
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I just watched it and I agree the whole Maggie ending was strange. While I can understand her personal motivations, I think it's strange for Jesus and Daryl (even with Daryl butting heads with Rick some this season) to be down with this. It's also not in the comics (not that everything the show does has to come straight from the comics, but still).

I had a feeling Negan would survive (he did in the comics as well, for the record), so it's going to be interesting to see how he is used going forward.
Spoiler alert.
 
escape just like the comics, restarting the same cycle as the governor showing up again at the prison once rick had become all obsessed with peace. My bet is that he escapes in the middle of Maggie's murder attempt
I thought in the comics

Negan didn't escape. Thought I read somewhere that Rick let him out and he helped them beat the whispers.
 
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I figured the title of the thread covered it, in addition to the fact those things had been discussed already, but I can retag it
 
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I thought in the comics

Negan didn't escape. Thought I read somewhere that Rick let him out and he helped them beat the whispers.

You may be right. I’ll have to double check but I was thinking I read that he escaped in the comics.

I still think it would’ve been awesome if nick from FTWD became the boss of the whisperers
 
Its definitely worth binging on now that you can watch them without the commercials or stupid cliffhangers they try to build into the show.
 
Yeah I mean, it was a cheap easy shot on my part, and I don’t fully agree with it since I was joking, but I have been at the point for a little while where I would be fine with it ending. The half seasons make it seem like it’s been on longer than it has so even though we just finished season 8, it felt more like 12 for me. It’s still got moments of greatness, but there are just so many threads out there and we drag story aspects for a while
 
Yeah I mean, it was a cheap easy shot on my part, and I don’t fully agree with it since I was joking, but I have been at the point for a little while where I would be fine with it ending. The half seasons make it seem like it’s been on longer than it has so even though we just finished season 8, it felt more like 12 for me. It’s still got moments of greatness, but there are just so many threads out there and we drag story aspects for a while
The biggest problem for me is that they've added too many characters. You can go multiple weeks without seeing some of the main characters. I was hoping a lot of secondary characters would be killed in the Negan storyline.
 
Its time for the story to start taking a major shift in the writing IMO. FTWD has done a much better job of exploring the potential outcomes of what people would do when society breaks down. Eventually major civilizations would begin to form again, and there would be a ton of modern firepower just laying around for them to make war with as they compete for control of land and resources.

If the next group is the one that most people think it is, then that's going to be the largest scale group we've seen yet by at least an order of magnitude.
 
They need to start writing up an ending to the series. Walking Dead without CARL is pretty pointless.

FTFY

I know a lot of people didn't love his character, especially when he was younger. But if you look at the story from a literary sense, it obviously has revolved around the development of Carl, with the arc of his character heading towards him become the leader when he comes of age. Then they just randomly kill him off with a meaningless scene. Scott Gimple is a steaming hot pile of garbage as a show runner.
 
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FTFY

I know a lot of people didn't love his character, especially when he was younger. But if you look at the story from a literary sense, it obviously has revolved around the development of Carl, with the arc of his character heading towards him become the leader when he comes of age. Then they just randomly kill him off with a meaningless scene. Scott Gimple is a steaming hot pile of garbage as a show runner.
Meh, I don't care about them killing Carl. I think it should have been done differently if they were gonna do it so I agree with you on how it was done, but he's just annoying to me. I know he's a central character in the comics, but I felt he was just another character in the TV show. I always kinda felt he just got in the way more than anything. JMO

ETA: Oh, and I agree with you on Scott Gimple 100%. So happy he moved on to another role, but I'm afraid it's too late.
 
Meh, I don't care about them killing Carl. I think it should have been done differently if they were gonna do it so I agree with you on how it was done, but he's just annoying to me. I know he's a central character in the comics, but I felt he was just another character in the TV show. I always kinda felt he just got in the way more than anything. JMO

I agree about his character, but a lot of that was because of the poor writing. He did a lot of dumb shit that kids would never do. Kids are dumb sometimes, but when they're scared of dying they don't tend to go randomly wandering in the woods. We wouldn't have evolved this far if kids were that stupid.

The son taking over for the father that he learned everything from is just one of that classic narratives that resonates with us on a deep level. The problem is when crap writing gets in the way of the story following those lines in a unique way.
 
Would there even be a reason to watch the show after Rick leaves? I would guess that around 90% of the decisions that are made by characters on the show are made because of something Rick does or says. Who becomes the de facto leader at that point? Maggie will need to take maternity leave (assuming she has the baby sometime this century) and Daryl isn't a leader. There really isn't anyone alive that can be the leader (good or bad) that Rick is.
 
Would there even be a reason to watch the show after Rick leaves? I would guess that around 90% of the decisions that are made by characters on the show are made because of something Rick does or says. Who becomes the de facto leader at that point? Maggie will need to take maternity leave (assuming she has the baby sometime this century) and Daryl isn't a leader. There really isn't anyone alive that can be the leader (good or bad) that Rick is.

Most people seem to think it will be Daryl. Maggie is going to get written out next season because they don't want to pay her.

They could take it an entirely different direction. Catastrophe takes out most of the group, forcing a small remaining group to scramble into the woods, eventually reforming around Daryl, who is the best equipped to keep everyone alive at whatever cost.

I could see that working but they depend on the stupid dramatic crap way too much to go in that direction.
 
Most people seem to think it will be Daryl. Maggie is going to get written out next season because they don't want to pay her.

They could take it an entirely different direction. Catastrophe takes out most of the group, forcing a small remaining group to scramble into the woods, eventually reforming around Daryl, who is the best equipped to keep everyone alive at whatever cost.

I could see that working but they depend on the stupid dramatic crap way too much to go in that direction.
I just can't buy Daryl as the leader of a group. His character has always been the lone wolf guy. It would be hard to take him being the leader seriously. Maggie just signed a new contract, but I'm not sure how many years it's for. I can't really picture her as the leader either, especially if she plays a part in the downfall of Rick. They just need to kill the show off at the end of this season and be done with it.
 
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I just can't buy Daryl as the leader of a group. His character has always been the lone wolf guy. It would be hard to take him being the leader seriously. Maggie just signed a new contract, but I'm not sure how many years it's for. I can't really picture her as the leader either, especially if she plays a part in the downfall of Rick. They just need to kill the show off at the end of this season and be done with it.

Maybe he becomes the alpha wolf that the pack follows because he’s the toughest, not the best leader.

Idk I agree with you, but who knows how it will go? Maybe michonne becomes the leader?

Maybe it’s a time jump and rick is dead and we learn that Judith has grown up and learned everything from rick before he died. Totally new characters with a few falsely aged remainders from the original cast.
 
If Lincoln leaves they could do a "Bewitched" and bring in a replacement (they brought in Dick Sargent to replace Dick York to play the Darrin character.) I vote for Bruce Willis to be the new Rick Grimes.
 
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