We are sick of your bulls#it
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I'm a millennial and there are many characteristics about my generation I do not like. However, we aren't all bad. We just have to grow up and realize we don't need safe spaces and 'trigger warnings' to become successful.
The stupidest thing we have done, is completely twist and demean the term 'social justice'.
The stupidest thing we have done, is completely twist and demean the term 'social justice'.
Of course you aren't all bad. I have 2 children who are millennials.
But your generation, as a whole, has to quit acting like the world (a) is fair and (b) owes you something.
Lol, that's what I keep trying to tell people. A lot of us labor under this delusion that everything can be solved with a combination of protests, tumblr, and marijuana. But what's worse is that we've developed a truly nasty habit of talking past each other. I keep saying that if we want people to listen we can't just demand, demand, demand. We have to sit down and lay out the arguments like adults, not spoiled brats.
Agree 100%. Tumblr is for people who take message boards seriously and think they are real life, as opposed to just a way to entertain one's self. Add in the weed and Bernie Sanders and you have way too many people without a clue who are serious about believing their own bullshit.
Here's the thing though- you guys are arguing about shit that can't be solved.
Dude. Don't get me started on my generation. I want to put a bullet in it.
Yeah, I'm not sure how having a massive amount of student loan debt precludes you from getting a job. If anything, it should encourage such.
ETA: But yes, as one of JuleZ' memes points out, every generation ever has been accused of having entitlement issues. That's nothing new at all.
It seems to me the difference with Millennials is that they have much more of a voice/platform than any previous generation because internet. And they also (because of the damn baby boomers not raising their kids right) think they are special snowflakes which need to be seen and heard whenever convenient and ignored whenever not convenient, but most of all, provided an environment suitable to their needs du jour.
Case in point- body jewelry and visible tattoos. We should recognize their right to get a neck tattoo, but that neck tattoo should not preclude us from hiring them and if we do, then we are illegally discriminating.
As OOTB favorite Gary would say: "GMAFBWATBSYLS"
Just to get this out there. I'm a millennial, yet I:
- hate tattoos and will never get one
- know how to dress for an occasion instead of looking like a bum
- never wear a hat indoors (sports bar aside)
- open the door, car or otherwise, for women
- don't feel the need to whine about my insignificant problems on a public platform such as FB, Insta, tumblr, et al
- don't vote Democrat
- don't worship the LGBT cause. Be who you are, whatever that is, and shut up about it already.
- have a job
- actually want to better myself instead of bitching and expecting life to be handed to me
- recognize that I am fortunate and stand on the shoulders of those who came before me (my parents, past generations, etc.)
- vote, and know why I'm voting for a specific person, law, etc.
K. I feel better now.
- hate tattoos and will never get one
- know how to dress for an occasion instead of looking like a bum
- never wear a hat indoors (sports bar aside)
- open the door, car or otherwise, for women
- don't feel the need to whine about my insignificant problems on a public platform such as FB, Insta, tumblr, et al
- don't vote Democrat
- don't worship the LGBT cause. Be who you are, whatever that is, and shut up about it already.
- have a job
- actually want to better myself instead of bitching and expecting life to be handed to me
- recognize that I am fortunate and stand on the shoulders of those who came before me (my parents, past generations, etc.)
- vote, and know why I'm voting for a specific person, law, etc.
K. I feel better now.
The person who made the last one is David Horsey - who is definitely a baby boomer (born in 1951). But, he also seems to a pretty liberal political cartoonist. He must like to chime in on this sort of stuff a lot because he "received the Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award for his cartoons related to social justice issues."
I agree with RH that having lot of student loans should encourage, not discourage, one to get a job. But I also see the general argument that the cartoon is trying to make - that the older retired generation is overly depending on the younger generations to fund their retirement. I'm all for making sure that the retired people on social security get back what they put in to the system - they contributed a whole career's worth of social security contributions, and should be entitled to that money now. What I have the issue with is that a lot of these people are outliving their original life expectancies, which now causes the shortfall to need to be picked up by the still-working generations. The problem is that the SS system is completely f*cked. I get so pissed off that I contribute to it every paycheck, but will only ever see 50%-70% of that money back (if that).
It's a forced retirement saving vehicle. But it doesn't actually penalize you for undersaving - which is the problem. If they scrapped the whole program and made people have to be responsible on their own - and save for their own retirement - we'd be better off.
I agree with all, except for the first one. That being said, I think it's ok to take a tattoo into account when hiring someone. I can accept the fact that someone has a tattoo on their face, but you can't be a bank teller with that. Being born in 1984 puts me on the edge between the two generations, but I don't identify that much with the millennial generation.
Let me expound upon the tattoo thing. I hate tattoos for ME and would never get one. I don't mind if others get them.
That being said, if your tattoos look stupid, I'm going to judge you on it. Also, when it comes to women.....I want tattoos on girls I'm just looking to bang. I don't want tattoos on a girl I'm looking to date seriously.
Many of these resonate with me as a fellow millennial. But the last one especially. Too many of us either don't vote, or when we do have no idea what we're doing or supporting. So many hop on the Bernie Sanders train just because he's a radical progressive, he's "hip" in other words.
The point I was making trying to make is that you can discriminate in hiring for almost anything except what is called protected classes which are race, sex, age, religion. Anything else is perfectly legal as far as I know.
I know. I was referencing @tarheel0910 's post, not yours. To me, discriminating based on tattoos is completely fair game. Wanna permanently mark your skin? Go for it. Just don't be upset when you can't get the job you want because of it.
Yes, but you are an old trapped
That was my point. These cotdern kids think we can't discriminate because they have hubcaps in their ears and a spiderweb tattooed on the tops of their bald heads.
The problem is simple. When SS was created, there 16 people in the workforce paying in for every one person taking out. Now that ratio is about 5:1. Not enough people working. Period.
I agree. Although, their parents could be as much to blame for not saving enough to pay for their kids education.
For me, I actually graduated from UNC with no student loans or debt and paid for 90% by me. I applied for a student loan and was declined because they put my fathers crappy default debt on my credit report (I am a Jr.). It took me 5 years to clean up. I had to prove that in 1972, I was 2 years old and Sears does not give credit cards to 2 year olds.
So, I had to work 3 jobs (bartending, door to door sales, other odd jobs) while attending UNC full time, because debt was not an option. My mother helped me occasionally when I called to ask for some help to pay rent, etc. My junior year I got an academic scholarship that paid for tuition and books for last 2 years, but I still had to work the 3 jobs to pay rent, gas, etc.
So, the millennials that bitch about student debt, get no quarter from me. Get a job, or 3
Well, those "protected classes" I believe really only protected for one end of the spectrum. I'm sure the laws are written in a way that aims to protect the whole spectrum of those classes, but from what I've seen of people getting in trouble for violating it - it's only been in one direction.
For example, I think a white, Christian, 30 year old, male wouldn't have an easy time getting someone prosecuted for discrimination over any of those traits even if it was pretty obvious that he was discriminated against.
I somewhat agree. Anyone that bitches about a small amount of student loans while not working (or working somewhere they "enjoy" instead of somewhere that actually pays decently) should shut up. But you also have to remember that the cost of getting a 4 year degree today, is disproportionally larger than the cost of getting a 4 year degree when you were going to school (which based on your poast I would assume was late 80s/early90s). Obviously it's higher now due to inflation, but the ratio of cost-of-college to annual-salary-upon-graduation is much much higher now.
I'm assuming this is a result of the recent trend (that has been discussed in other threads) of kids today being pushed towards college regardless of whether they're "college material". Colleges realized that everyone would be pushed towards attending school regardless of whether the cost/benefit analysis made sense - so they jacked up the prices to cash in on the influx of applicants.
This made me chuckle. I can only imagine how idiotic those conversations must've been, and can only hope that you at least had some fun with it.
I'm sorry but I don't have a clue what you are trying to say. Really, I don't.
Ok, so I was referring to this quote:
And basically what I said was: I believe that when hiring you can indeed discriminate against someone based on their race, sex, age, and religion. But only if the discrimination is done against someone that isn't likely to get a lot of support for being discriminated against. And my example was a white, Christian, 30 year old, male wouldn't quite get the same response if he said he was discriminated against for his race/religion/age/gender even if it was fairly obvious that he was... as say a black, muslim, 70 year old, female would if she claimed she was discriminated against.
Oh I did. This was before the internet and one had to call and get their credit report mailed to them. When I got it, I called all Equifax, TRW, and Transunion. They were all the same.
It went like
Me, "You guys screwed up my credit report. It is wrong"
Them, " No we didn't. We don't make mistakes" (Like they are Jesus Christ or something)
Me, "Yes, you did"
Them, "No we didn't. We only use data by social security numbers."
Me, " Yeah, but my dad and I have the same name, and you put his crap on my credit report. I am 18 and have no credit history"
Them," No, we don't make mistakes, that is YOUR history"
Me, "Did you even look at the credit report?"
Them, "yes"
Me,"We'll do you see the sears credit card issued in 1972"
Them, "yes"
Me," Well, in 1972 I was 2 years old. Do you think Sears issues credit cards to 2 year olds?
Them, "OH, You are right!'
Me, " SO, you do make mistakes?"
Them, "I guess so"
Me," how do we fix this?
Them," You need to mail us a letter requesting it to be looked at"
Me, "how long does that take?
Them, "I don't know" (code for "whenever we feel like it")
Me, "Oh, great!"
5 years later after letters sent, it gets fixed.
Thanks for the clarification. I, too, was thrown off by your overwhelming sarcasm and bitterness.
Colin Cowherd said on his show "when you get a neck tattoo you are basically saying I never want a real job".
