Is how K somehow gets elite big men to come to Derm. Bolden has rotted on the bench all season and their offense forgets that Amile Jefferson is on the floor despite the fact that he has actually turned into a decent player. Everytime they went to him last night he got a bucket. Yet they use him as a designated screen setter. How does any recruit that projects as a PF/C watch Dook and have any interest in playing there? As opposed to watching UNC and seeing our big men continuously kill teams in the paint and sit at the top of the nation in rebounding despite not having a 7footer in 5 years
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agree. youre also forgetting jeter who before he got hurt barely played(5 star right?) and Delaurier( high 4 star?) these guys come to unc and theyd be flourishing or at least getting the chance to.
Lets not forget they ran Thornton out of town too, another 5 star. And I saw where the othe big that transferred-semi something or other just put up 20 points last night.
He's had a tremendous year, averaging 18.5 and 6.5, you're telling me they can't use that? People are blinded by the one and done crap and the USA coaching gig. Honestly it does not make sense for a big man to go there. The only time they've utilized a big as one of the main focuses of their O recently was with Okafor and he was the #1 ranked recruit I believe. If K has one or two good wings or guards the big man will get tossed to the curb every single time. Prior to Okafor the last one was who? Brand in 1999?
You would be amazed at how dirty the recruiting is at that school, or maybe you wouldn't.
Capel is still there isn't he? NOTHING would surprise me.
One player. Okafor. IMO he's the most important recruit Dook has gotten in the last 10 years. Coach K will continue to show other 5 star Bigs his highlights as an example. He never had that before, unless you count Sheldon Williams, however he wasn't a OAD.
Lets not forget they ran Thornton out of town too, another 5 star. And I saw where the othe big that transferred-semi something or other just put up 20 points last night.
The dook transfer is doing so well because he is working with UNC alum George Lynch the Director of Player development at SMU ! Would love to see George Lynch on the UNC staff one day .
The dook transfer is doing so well because he is working with UNC alum George Lynch the Director of Player development at SMU ! Would love to see George Lynch on the UNC staff one day .
And I believe he is a complete flop in the NBA. There were highlights of him last week completely not playing defense. I believe his team attempted to trade him and there were no takers.
Come on man. I know he's a duke guy, but it's a little early to call him a flop. He hasn't even played two full years. His biggest issues are off the court, not on it.
I know, stupid decision wasn't it?
Okafor is indeed a bust. (so far) He does not play a lick of D and nobody wanted him at the trade deadline. His problems off the court are not why he can't get any run, it is his indifferent play on O and D! His problems are all reparable but I question whether he has the work ethic to do anything about them. His coddling at puke by the World's Greatest LOM was a factor in his prima donna attitude!
Okafor is indeed a bust. (so far) He does not play a lick of D and nobody wanted him at the trade deadline. His problems off the court are not why he can't get any run, it is his indifferent play on O and D! His problems are all reparable but I question whether he has the work ethic to do anything about them. His coddling at puke by the World's Greatest LOM was a factor in his prima donna attitude!
What about Jabari Parker? He was doing OK in the NBA right? But he has struggled with injuries a lot IIRC.
Just another example of how kay is the most overrated coach in sports history.
This kid Semi is scary talented. I was elated when I heard he was leaving that school down the road.
There's certainly some truth in that statement. I believe many think it will be as easy in college as it was in high school, and they couldn't be more wrong.
I certainly wouldn't put anything past that staff that could possibly give them an advantage in recruiting.You would be amazed at how dirty the recruiting is at that school, or maybe you wouldn't.
I have a friend who is an assistant at a mid level school...they talk often about who they think is clean vs. dirty. They say UNC, Duke, Nova, UCLA are the top clean ones while UK, KU, Zona, and Seton Hall are the dirtiest.
It would be very interesting to see just how many transfers Vader has had say over the last 15 years and compare that to Carolina.... hell the rest of the ACC and the top ten BBall schools Kansas KY UCLA etc
I think the number would shock many people
I think the number would shock many people
Well if Seton Hall is one of the dirtiest then they are not very good at being dirty!
I do know this much, if you are a high school coach or a prep school coach or a summer league (AAU, EYBL) and you align with Ky, KU, or Zona it is amazing how strong the flow of cash can become if you funnel your best players in any of those 3 directions. If your son is a 5 star and you just happen to be a brand new head coach at a major prep school, it is amazing at how much money can flow in to your program very quickly and some of it is even considered allowed by the NCAA...I mean, you may find your summer program to be totally funded and EXTREMELY PROFITABLE and all those profits flow in to your personal back pocket... I wonder why PJ committed to Ky...$$$?
Would that include the ones he is going to have this coming off season, which I am thinking will begin for the dukies in about 2 weeks from now? LOL
Jeter and Delourer, you guys are on the hot seat, what ya gonna do?
He's a what have you done for me lately type of coach. If they'd shown Thornton a little more love, he would be there now.
It would have helped had K not lied to him about his role on last season's team...At least the kid's dad felt they were deceived...
He's not a flop at all. He's just terrible on defense. He can score on offense at the NBA level.
Everything with kaypel's fingerprints on it is dirty. This I know, and many others know it as well.
Being an ncaa "untouchable" keeps it under cover, for now anyways.
IT was a HUGE assist for K to be able to sell his program and have basically the elite of the elite NBA payers endorsing him. Amplified when W@hisky did their dirty work for them taking both UNC and Ky out before laying down to K and his dukies for that last Natty.
But funny is the karma of recruiting, you get them and the expectation is for them to not just win but win big. The one & dones of the future want to see todays 1&d kid not only win big time but show his game big time and it help his NBA draft ability. The winning big time has not been on the mark for the dukies last couple seasons and now they have some 5 star busts they have to explain away? That can be a hit to their future recruiting if their 2017 class does not lead them to a over achieving type of season.
Really, I think if K takes a big time miss in a recruiting class, meaning after the smoke clears his class is not at least top 5, would would step away before the season begins. I don't think he has the steam any longer to build a class that isn't loaded with 5 star talent.
Thornton's father felt they were lied to by K. I do not know, but the story is they got him to forgo his fifth year of HSand co e early to replace Tyus Jones, who they thought would be around two years. But he did not start every game and Matt Jones started at the pg spot for some reason several times. So they left for USC. Story has it that the father and not Derryck wanted the transfer more.
Doesn't matter now. UNC is gonna be a big challenger to win it all again and Duke is floundering around going into the NCAA. Truth is UNC is the better team and it appears that will stay that way for a long time as K may throw in the towel soon. It will be a little less fun when Duke can not compete with you all and the rivalry game will no longer be important to basketball,maybe not even nationally televised as you guys will be so much better that people won't care.
Doesn't matter now. UNC is gonna be a big challenger to win it all again and Duke is floundering around going into the NCAA. Truth is UNC is the better team and it appears that will stay that way for a long time as K may throw in the towel soon. It will be a little less fun when Duke can not compete with you all and the rivalry game will no longer be important to basketball,maybe not even nationally televised as you guys will be so much better that people won't care.
Most probably wouldn't. Even some Carolina fans buy into the media's phony image of them --- but the reality, as you well know, is quite different...You would be amazed at how dirty the recruiting is at that school, or maybe you wouldn't.
Yep, bad injuries. Couldn't defend his momma, but also like Tatum, a tremendous offensive talent.
And fair point, actually you could count Parker as the most important in that he was Rat's first big-time "get" from USABasketball, and Okafor, et al followed.
I know we hate them, but I've talked to AAU coaches, college coaches, players etc about shit like this because I find it super interesting and none of them have said anything about Duke being dirty. Most common answer for both us and them "they don't need to".
#WorldWideWes... and rumor has it he's making another attempt to subvert our recruiting interests as we speak.If your son is a 5 star and you just happen to be a brand new head coach at a major prep school, it is amazing at how much money can flow in to your program very quickly and some of it is even considered allowed by the NCAA...I mean, you may find your summer program to be totally funded and EXTREMELY PROFITABLE and all those profits flow in to your personal back pocket... I wonder why PJ committed to Ky...$$$?
Actually you couldn't because I never said he was a flop. Maybe you are thinking of someone else.
I've already explained it to you, but I'll do it again. The avatar is making fun of one of the dumbest arguments I have ever seen on this site. We had posters trying to compare Luke to some all time great UNC players and posters trying to say he was some scrub that shouldn't even play D1 ball. Both sides are equally stupid. In reality, Luke is a very good role player who gives us great minutes. He's not going to blow you away with his numbers, but he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He is the type of player that every team needs and wants.
