When Roy retires I want Popovich
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"Of course it does. OAD vs. no-OAD, AAU relationships vs. none, Willing to deal with handlers vs. not. Those were not issues in 1988.
So you're saying we shouldn't factor any of those things into the next coaching hire? That doesn't make much sense to me."
Roy was mentored by Dean but he isn't a Dean clone, he is his own man. And while his approach mirrors Dean's in many key respects, he has added his own twists to Dean's methodology. For example, Dean would slow the game down from time to time, Roy runs at every opportunity. Dean employed multiple defenses on a regular basis, Roy largely sticks with man-to-man.
There is no reason to believe Hubert would not do the same. He is his own man. I imagine he would borrow from both Dean and Roy's styles and add some twists of his own. He might incorporate some principles he learned in his long pro career.
Being younger, and having had a very good pro career, he would probably relate to recruits and potential OAD's a little more. He might mix in zone from time to time during a game like Dean did(something I wish Roy did more often). Who knows?
Very few teams have JV programs these days. And running our JV team is perfect experience for becoming a HC. I understand those who think we need to go outside "the Family" or hire a guy who has been successful as a head coach. I just don't happen to think either is a prerequisite.
So you're saying we shouldn't factor any of those things into the next coaching hire? That doesn't make much sense to me."
Roy was mentored by Dean but he isn't a Dean clone, he is his own man. And while his approach mirrors Dean's in many key respects, he has added his own twists to Dean's methodology. For example, Dean would slow the game down from time to time, Roy runs at every opportunity. Dean employed multiple defenses on a regular basis, Roy largely sticks with man-to-man.
There is no reason to believe Hubert would not do the same. He is his own man. I imagine he would borrow from both Dean and Roy's styles and add some twists of his own. He might incorporate some principles he learned in his long pro career.
Being younger, and having had a very good pro career, he would probably relate to recruits and potential OAD's a little more. He might mix in zone from time to time during a game like Dean did(something I wish Roy did more often). Who knows?
Very few teams have JV programs these days. And running our JV team is perfect experience for becoming a HC. I understand those who think we need to go outside "the Family" or hire a guy who has been successful as a head coach. I just don't happen to think either is a prerequisite.
I would love to see Stackhouse added to the staff. In no way,shape or form should be considered for the HC job.
Adding Stackhouse would help immensely with recruiting. He's young enough to connect with the kids & his AAU connections would be a huge value.
Adding Stackhouse would help immensely with recruiting. He's young enough to connect with the kids & his AAU connections would be a huge value.
Several inaccurate statements above.
Roy has, at times, changed defense within the flow of one set, many times. Dean would show one defense and switch it up as well.
Stack is with the Raptors. AAU connections? Please, no.
Jerry is 42 years old.
Young enough to connect with the kids? Please...
While Pop might be cool, he is going to sail into retirement or front office but not to get back into recruiting wars, they don't have to do that in the NBA.
We have one of the best coaches in college basketball and the staff is as well, let's enjoy them for a few more years.
First I didn't mention anything about Roy & his defensive coaching.
Stackhouse is very involved in AAU basketball, read the link below.
I guarantee you at 42 Stack is still young enough to connect with the youth of today.
I love Roy to death & hope he's here as long as he wants but if you don't think adding someone like Stackhouse to our bench would be a huge benefit, then you're crazy !!!!!
Stackhouse on the staff could really help with recruiting.
Color me crazy.
I love Stack but he will not be a HC at Carolina.
Sheed? Oh dear sweetness...
As to the AAU, mostly it is best to stay away from that crowd...now Jerry probably runs a different program in a far different way than the less professional.
42 makes him their Daddy...
I love Stack but he will not be a HC at Carolina.
Sheed? Oh dear sweetness...
As to the AAU, mostly it is best to stay away from that crowd...now Jerry probably runs a different program in a far different way than the less professional.
42 makes him their Daddy...
So you don't want Stack because he's "their daddy" at 42, yet you want Hubert who is 46.
You don't care for Stack's connections to AAU which is where our recruits come from, but you'd be open to Sean May who's majority connections are probably in the French Pro League.
I'd like to see Brad Daugherty coaching our bigs, he was so fundamentally sound and he's very articulate and I feel he would be very good at teaching those fundamentals to our young men. He had a great pro career and is an upstanding citizen, and young men need mentoring in those areas too. It would be like having David Robinson or Tim Duncan on our staff.
Of course, he's involved with NASCAR and basketball as an announcer, is making great money, and might not even be interested. We were so fortunate to have Coach Guthridge coaching our bigs for so many years. And how fortunate have we been to have Dean and Roy leading our program to decades of excellence?
As fans, we have been spoiled rotten.
Amen.
I think Sean May has done a good job as well. Kennedy looks improved, Brice obviously last year, and Tony seems as good as advertised. Hard to not credit May for at least some of that.
I think May is going to earn his stripes with this class coming in. We have 2 projects with great upside that can really benefit from May's teaching.
Yep. Hubert is there for a reason, just like Brad Frederick. So is Sean.
You do understand Sean's position, Hmm? Do you understand what he does regarding recruits while they are on campus? Are you even familiar with the "on campus recruiter"?
Some of our fan base are high on Jerry and that is fine. I'm not. Sheed, not likely but one never knows.
And 4 years difference in age, seriously?
You have your preferences and I have mine. Thing is neither of us will, more than likely, be asked to serve on the search committee, when Roy retires.
I never knew we recruited exclusively from AAU, better research where recruiting contacts were made on many of this years team, and it wasn't AAU circles, Roy and Coach Rob don't play that, heck we even have one of our players coming in (next year) thanks to the women's coach at his HS. She helped him in contact with our athletic department.
I too think Stackhouse would be great on our bench. Jeff Capel is 41-42 and is a key to dook's recruiting. It isn't about age. AAU connections are also fine if it doesn't bring about something illegal. Discussions about UNC's next coach don't mean let's push Roy out. Stack is still cool and brings a guy players would look up to, think is cool, but still respect. It was a good suggestion, IMO.
He's the assistant to the director of player development. You're telling me he's not involved at all with helping our bigs? I think it would be a waste of a resource if he's not.
Absolutely. I think we're all in agreement that we want Roy here for as long as he has the desire to coach.
Forgot about Sean. LOVE the guy. I would be very surprised if he's not involved with our bigs right now. When McGrath or Frederick move on, and I think they will eventually, I expect Sean to get promoted on our staff.
I don't see anyone within the Carolina family worthy enough to inherit from Roy. Some of you may be fine with Hubert, but at the very least we should look at other options. I want someone who can recruit well and continue the prestige of the program. That should be the primary objective.
Just to be clear, I wasn't rallying for Stack to be the coach, just pointing out some of the failures in logic why you don't want him to be coach but are ok with others.
I don't want Stack, Sheed, Hubert, or Sean to be the next coach. None have near the experience to head a blue-blood program. At UNC we should be able to get a legit established coach. If we have to fall back to one of the above that will be a big indictment on where we are as a program.
Everyone in the above list might well be on our bench some day, but only one will even be considered for Head Coach, Hubert! I love how Dean and now Roy attempt to grow coaches from within. They have developed a program specifically designed to help Family become competent coaches that embody Tar Heel ideals! When Roy retires, I pray 5-10 years from now, I expect Hubert, Haase, Buzz, King, or some other Family to have proven themselves capable.
Nobody has even suggested the coaches should be Roy clones; it is obvious they will be expected to be suited to meet the demands of the job at the time. The key is that they are both capable and part of the Family!
Nobody has even suggested the coaches should be Roy clones; it is obvious they will be expected to be suited to meet the demands of the job at the time. The key is that they are both capable and part of the Family!
Honest to God, what does it matter if it's within the family? This is college basketball not the Italian mob. We need to base our next selection off talent and merit alone. That Roy was part of the dean smith coaching tree was very fortunate. But we would be foolish to select a coach purely because they have a Carolina connection
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It's going to be Hubert.
Mark it down. Book it. Take it to the bank. It's a done deal. No ifs, ands, or buts. Without a doubt. As sure as God made little green apples.
And I'm down with that.
Mark it down. Book it. Take it to the bank. It's a done deal. No ifs, ands, or buts. Without a doubt. As sure as God made little green apples.
And I'm down with that.
Brad Stevens I don't see ever coaching anywhere but the NBA.
Yep. Brad Stevens has established himself as a good NBA coach. He isnt going back to college.
I can't name a single coach that would leave their current gig that I would prefer over Hubert. Certainly not Smart. Possibly Wright at Villanova or Hoiberg if he were to get fired from the Bulls.
And you know this how? Bubba told ya? Don't claim something as fact when it's not. Hubert will be a candidate but the job isn't reserved for him.
You may need to turn your sarcasm meter up a notch or two. Can't you recognize hyperbole when you see it? Of course it isn't a done deal. I realize you don't want it to happen but my opinion is that it will and I hope it does. Don't like that? Get over it.
BINGO!
Number of former players who would look good on our bench and we have one now, Hubert and Sean is on staff and will be on the bench so as possible. And I hope Roy is with us 10 more years min.
