When was the last time if ever a college team had 3 players drafted in the top ten that did not win a natty?
When was there a more talented team to fail?
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Not just the draft picks - so many of the numbers geeks were saying how that dook team was arguably the best ever.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving program! Arguably the most egregious underperformance ever!
Will they pull a Slimy and claim they are really not concerned with winning Nattys, they just want to get their precious widdle players to the pros as quickly as possible! That is the new puke paradigm!
Will they pull a Slimy and claim they are really not concerned with winning Nattys, they just want to get their precious widdle players to the pros as quickly as possible! That is the new puke paradigm!
1995 draft had 2 Heels in the top 4 and Jeff McInnis was drafted 1 year later. Weak depth but high talent on that team.
1998 draft had 2 Heels in the top 5 and another at #34. Could be the best draft ever in UNC history.
0 National Titles in that 5 year stretch despite having 4 All Star level players come through that program.
If I'm a dookie coughing up a million with several of my buddies and we rent that level of talent for a year and don't win it all I'm a bit pissed. You gotta wonder how many first round picks does Scheyer need to win it. I think that is almost 30 guys they have had drafted (counting rounds 1 and 2) since 2016.
That recruiting class ruined the 1993-94 season. 3 massive egos with a range of attitudes, and all of them on the bad side.
Draft picks from d00k this year: 1, 4, 10, 33, and 49. Imagine having all that talent and not winning the title.
I never heard the details…please share!
But Rasheed and Stack were clearly deserved a ton more playing time (though I loved Salvadori and Reese).
McInnis rumors (assuming true) are upsetting.
Zion says👋🏽.
“My team was ubertalented, too. Don’t forget about us.” 🤭
“My team was ubertalented, too. Don’t forget about us.” 🤭
You are talking about seeing athletic potential in young guys and assuming that what is best for a team that won the National Championship the year before would be to sit the very experienced guys who won it all and turn the team over to freshmen, who had proven nothing at the college level.
And indeed that is what all 3, Stackhouse, Wallace, and McInnes, demanded. Loudly. Repeatedly. From Day 1. It is a given that any such trash will ruin a team's chemistry. It was clear watching games the entree second half of the season that the 3 frosh seemed always to be playing 2 games at once: 1 against the other team, and 1 against the rest of the UNC team.
The 1993-94 UNC team had the talent not just to win it all, but to be an undefeated National Champ. And instead, UNC lost 7 games total. Dook won the ACC regular season, and Bobby Cremins really out coached Dean and his pet trio of frosh arrogance defined to sweep UNC. Then what some saw as the coup de grace: UNC lost to BC - a lower 2nd rung BE program which had not even once player that UNC had so much as looked closely at in recruiting - in the 2nd Round of the NCAA.
So what the ego-punk trio delivered was the first season since 1980 that UNC had failed to reach at least the Sweet 16. And the ego-punk trio could do that because Dean failed to slap it into place and preserve team chemistry.
Good team chemistry is necessary to win at the top.
What's a bigger disappointment:
Preseason #1 and miss the NCAA Tournament without a major injury. Without any NBA draft picks.
Lose in the Final Four with three top 10 draft picks.
The 2014-15 Kentucky team was probably the most talented college basketball team of my lifetime. I personally have a hard time saying a team that was 2 wins away from an undefeated season was a colossal disappointment. And similarly, I have a hard time saying any Final Four season was a huge disappointment. I know most will disagree with me. Especially since it's Duke that's involved. Unless you're returning an entire team that won a National Championship in the year before or made the Final Four with the same roster.... Next point.
A little before my conscious years, but that UNLV team that lost to Duke in the Final Four was probably the best team to not win the championship in a season.
Preseason #1 and miss the NCAA Tournament without a major injury. Without any NBA draft picks.
Lose in the Final Four with three top 10 draft picks.
The 2014-15 Kentucky team was probably the most talented college basketball team of my lifetime. I personally have a hard time saying a team that was 2 wins away from an undefeated season was a colossal disappointment. And similarly, I have a hard time saying any Final Four season was a huge disappointment. I know most will disagree with me. Especially since it's Duke that's involved. Unless you're returning an entire team that won a National Championship in the year before or made the Final Four with the same roster.... Next point.
A little before my conscious years, but that UNLV team that lost to Duke in the Final Four was probably the best team to not win the championship in a season.
I am a fan of college sports, could care less about the NBA. To me, to have to attend a NBA draft, to see one of my players named the clear over all #1 pick in the draft, to see yet another as the #4 pick, and another in the top 10 picks, yet not win the natty?
How huge an advantage does duke need to win a natty? Just having the best player in the college game was not enough, having by far the best collection of talent over all was not enough, having a strong size advantage at every floor position was not enough? When you have a team with that kind of advantage there is only 1 mark of success or failure, did you or did you not win the NCAA tourney, did you earn a Natty ring, did ya even play in the final game for the natty? Well did ya dukies? LOL
They were great players but sulky crybabies when they didn't get their way. Especially Sheed. In my mind, that's when the era of pouty players got started - although it may only have been when I first noticed it with UNC players.
To be honest, I never saw it with McInnis, but definitely with Sheed and Stack.
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