WHY?!?!?
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Roy should have called a timeout. His stubbornness. We could have won that game.
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Roys answer is always the same. He doesn't call TOs in situations like that bc he doesn't want their defense to get set. Right or wrong you think we'd be used to it by now. A la first dook game last year.
Because it worked out for Cal doesn't mean it was the right call...
The levels of whining less than 20 minutes after the game have already been set for this week, I see.
If you really expected Monk to suddenly be stopped by a TO, I'm not sure we were watching the same game.
If you really expected Monk to suddenly be stopped by a TO, I'm not sure we were watching the same game.
So while I think Roy should have called a timeout, there are a couple things to consider.
#1. We're an older team. The guys should know what they're doing in late game situations.
#2. No guarantee Roy draws up anything good.
#3. If there was a timeout, I would have preferred it after we got the offensive rebound late... That was the ballgame. If you gave Monk a chance to win it today, he was going to win it. We had a chance to ice the game and Berry took a pretty bad shot. That was the possession for me that's more in question.
#1. We're an older team. The guys should know what they're doing in late game situations.
#2. No guarantee Roy draws up anything good.
#3. If there was a timeout, I would have preferred it after we got the offensive rebound late... That was the ballgame. If you gave Monk a chance to win it today, he was going to win it. We had a chance to ice the game and Berry took a pretty bad shot. That was the possession for me that's more in question.
Yes and the fact that it didn't for Roy doesn't make it the wrong call.
well regardless Hicks had Berry about as open as youll get in that spot and chose to try and go over two defenders
Roy is NEVER going to call a TO in that situation. We all knew it wasn't coming.
That didn't lose it for us. It was a see-saw game and their team was playing out of their fvcking minds.
That's a game where time just runs out. There's no better team. Although, I will say that given Monk's performance, it was fitting that they win. That dude played insane. Frankly, I was amazed it was as close as it was, all things considered.
That didn't lose it for us. It was a see-saw game and their team was playing out of their fvcking minds.
That's a game where time just runs out. There's no better team. Although, I will say that given Monk's performance, it was fitting that they win. That dude played insane. Frankly, I was amazed it was as close as it was, all things considered.
I have no idea if wed have won with Theo-but with all the foul trouble and with what monk was doing I think its safe to say it wouldve made a big impact
I think we are as capable of beating them as they are us. But when Monk has a game like that, it's tough to stop them. I am proud of the fact that they never quit and were in a position to win that game.
I guess what I'm getting at is this. It's well documented that Roy (almost) never calls T.O. In that situation. Yet it seems as though it rarely works out. At what point does the thought process start to change?
BTW, comparing those two situations is apples to oranges IMO. Heels go up 2 with 45 seconds to play. Wouldn't expect U.K. To call time. However, playing for the last shot when down one seems a bit different...
The real missed TO opportunity was when we got the tip out after the Jackson missed free throw. Up 2, 50 sec to play you have to run your best set possible. Call TO to set that up.
Bingo we have a winner. I don't mind not calling a timeout in the specific situation given our seniority and kentuckys youth. We've been there before and should have got s better look. I do however agree with dadika in that we could have used a timeout after we were gifted an extra possession from Maye on the tip out. Roy should have made it clear. Everybody but Berry and Jackson get the hell out of the way.
My question is....how does Monk not have one or two UNC defenders in his hip pocket when UK is bringing the ball up, down 100-98? He received the ball way too easily on the wing.
Yep... man we had so many ways to win that game in the last minute and a half.
I think it was more a result of the Berry shot, which was one of his few mistakes. It was a costly one he will learn from though. Hicks obviously does not do a good job defending in last game situations. I'm not a big fan of having him in late in games tbh. Great player but just doesn't handle those situations well IMO.
As for the TO people are talking about... Maybe Roy could have drawn up a play to get the ball to Hicks and have a wide open Berry on the perimeter, which is what happened. We just need our senior to throw the ball and make the right play. That play, and the mistakes made, are actually the very reason Roy doesn't call TOs in these type games. Like it or not, it is what we know he is going to do.
UNC probably worried about Fox driving the lane for the score and coins not play off of him.
Got to say that was a a great game to watch regardless who won. UNC's last shot to tie the game wedged between the glass and the rim. I was expecting to lose after Adenauo fouled out. We really did not have an answer for Jackson
Great game. Good luck against Duke and UL twice each. We play UL next Wednesday and hope that we do not have a mental letdown with such a young team as we start 4 freshmen and a sophomore.
Thank you, sir. You have quite the backcourt. We had no answer for Monk tonight. But a great game all around.
No doubt we win with Theo. Hell, dont even use Monks 47, our SGs got a wopping 2 poonts
Not a single person in this thread said anything close to that.
Talk about strawman's argument.
Glad Roy is well paid. If he doesn't call the TO and we lose, the bitchers bitch. If he DOES call the TO and we lose, same result. Fortunately for Roy he gets paid the same no matter what the bitchers bitch about.
I fully expect you guys to crap the sheets against UL. I've seen this way too often following UNC basketball.
Yes he did. Very unlike him. Should of attacked the rim. He was going to get points if he had.
It is possible. Teams that beat usually lose their next game if they win. Too much lost emotion. Does not happen to a veteran UK team, but this team is very young. I do not know how they will react
I agree that a TO here was more appropriate. I think we could have gotten a better shot than the one Joel got.
Agreed on both counts.
Now that made me laugh. Since when has anything ever stopped you from criticizing? I think it would be easier to stop the sun from rising tomorrow.
Its not an excuse at all, but youd have to be pretty blind not to see that hes easily our guy most equipped to deal with Monk defensively. Lets just say that Id roll with Theo on Monk over anyone else on our roster in a heartbeat.
Both Roy, and his mentor Dean disliked calling TO's because it allows the other team to set their defense and also contest the inbounds pass giving yet another opportunity for a turnover.
dean didn't allow the same end of game antics over and over either...it's one thing to allow your players to work through problems, deficits, and runs, but this is a trend.
i'm not really butt hurt about the loss...i expected a close game and was more than pleased with the toughness and will of the team.
i'm not really butt hurt about the loss...i expected a close game and was more than pleased with the toughness and will of the team.
We've lost plenty of games with Roy calling a TO in that situation and many times never even got a shot off! Some of y'all have short memories.
Call a TO and you allow a young UK team to set their defense. We practice those end of game situations every day in practice and we have a very experienced team as well as one of the best PG's in the game. The definition of insanity is knowing Roy traditionally doesn't call TO's in that situation, yet being surprised or critical every time he doesn't.
Believe me, I get it. I would have liked to see a TO when we were up two and Luke tipped the ball back out. Maybe we'd have gotten a better shot or Isaiah would have known to close out on the 3-point shooter. But knowing Isaiah, maybe not. But the bottom line is that no one should have been surprised when Roy let them play on.
Believe me, I get it. I would have liked to see a TO when we were up two and Luke tipped the ball back out. Maybe we'd have gotten a better shot or Isaiah would have known to close out on the 3-point shooter. But knowing Isaiah, maybe not. But the bottom line is that no one should have been surprised when Roy let them play on.
203 points scored boy there was a lot of defense played there to get set with 15 second left to play.. Seriously just call a TO like everyone else does and get a clean look or get to the line..
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