I would suggest that you check out David Sisk pod on youtube discussing why the kid did this, I think what he says may change your perspective of this.
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With Cadeau, Davis, and Ryan likely starting, I expected Wilcher to be the first guard off the bench barring some major offensive improvements from Trimble.
But I suppose the promises and money Pitino is offering looks more attractive.
I agree with almost all of this as spot on with most of my feelings on why the move made sense to me. The only small exception is I believe RJ will be Hubert's main backup at point for minutes after Cadeau.
That would leave Wilcher as vying for time with Trimble as the 3rd option at the 1 or the 2 depending on individual game need. An even worse situation to develop the in game skill set he wants to do if it is the case.
I'm thinking Indiana is more of the fit he desired to have to develop his in game needed areas as of now after UNC's addition. Situations change especially with the portal and reclassifications.
I think he knows that ball handling and some on ball skills is an area he NEEDS to develop. As a combo he wants minutes at both spots to develop. If he waits to begin that it delays the NBA evaluation if he is capable. The league happily will take those that show the ability for them to then develop it tothe pro game system. Watch the draft, it again will be heavy on YOUNG talent (G league, freshmen/sophmores), few upper classmen. That is why I think how he will be utilized mattered to him more then just getting other forms of PT starting this year.
If a guy who supposedly grew up a Heels’ fan and signed a LOI very recently will do this, my interest in college sports has finally been extinguished. We’re no better than UK/KU/AZ/d00k, just renting mercenaries temporarily. If this is the new college sports, I think I’m done. It’s been a great ride though.
I agree Arch, though there still are some very good examples of loyalty on the team in Mando and RJ.
I’m willing to wait and see if this is the exception or if it becomes the norm…. Will Hubert continue to make wholesale annual changes or will he build a ‘program’ worth following?
Has Hubert had more decommits at this point than Roy had in 17 years? Has college basketball changed that much in the last two years or was Roy’s extreme loyalty to a kid and not recruiting over them superior to Huberts? I just find it interesting how loyal Roy was to kids and how it was reciprocated in comparison to what we are seeing recently with GG and Wilcher. Hopefully this is not a recurring trend with Carolina recruiting.
It’s not Hubert entirely, it’s the state of college basketball. Certainly Roy would’ve handled things differently, but alas, I’m pretty sure that’s why he’s not doing it anymore.
It’s happening everywhere just not at unc. GG would have been here if not for nance. It’s a different world. I personally hate the transfer portal but think it’s the way to go to build a roster with a couple young bucks. Kids don’t want to stay in the same place long unless they are the man. Even then kansas (bitches) have damn near completely had to rebuild their roster twice now.
Slick Rick will be putting on the full court press on how he can be the primary ball handler, and what he can earn with the NIL. St. John's has 2 committed players for 2023, and 9 transfers, with 2 open positions. Do not bet against them securing his commitment.
Pretty sure Pitino was tampering with him for a while now. I'm just assuming the visit is a formality before he officially announces his commitment.
That's a lie.
GG and his dad repeatedly told the UNC coaches he had no interest in reclassifying. While Hubert was in Mexico cheering on GG and Trimble, GG's mom was meeting with South Carolina boosters to secure millions in NIL money based on the condition that he decommitted from UNC, reclassed, and committed to South Carolina.
Pete Nance had absolutely nothing to do with GG bailing on UNC. GG's mom wanted him at South Carolina, and she got what she wanted. In the interim GG and his pastor father repeatedly lied to Hubert and Lebo, and South Carolina broke NCAA rules by using NIL to induce a recruit to commit.
Can't find a copy of it now. It was all over social media earlier. So I am chalking it up to a photoshopped Twitter exchange until I see it again.
Not that anything would ever happen (if it didn't happen to Bill Self who was on FBI surveillance for f-sake) but who investigates obvious tampering like this?
You sign your LOI and spew love, decommit and have a visit scheduled for 2 days later? Jeez, they aren't even hiding the tampering!
The Caleb convo I saw was with B Daht, not Mando. But I can’t find it on B Daht’s IG or Twitter, and nothing is under Caleb’s replies on Twitter, so I have a hard time believing it’s real.
I have a screenshot of it. But idk how to post it. But it's undoubtedly fake.
Wilcher Sr and his fake values rears its ugly head.Rick Pitino = The Walking corpse
What meddlin'? What rules?
Yeah, I have it too. I tried to upload it last night but for some reason Rivals still has it so you have to upload it to a website and then copy the url link to get it to post. It’s archaic Rivals! 🤣
Why would hubcap even consider having players re class (with some exception), or why would players even consider a reclass when hubs actions indicate he's turned in to a portal coach and has little or no interest in player development on any level. He, by his actions, appear to be turning UNC bball in to a hybrid between AAU and the G league. Where am I wrong in this line of thinking?
I would say in thinking Hubert has made that change. That change has been in place and is already the norm for how top talent wants to develop. The doors are not shut on opportunities for them to reclassify or move when a choice they made is not "right" for them.
Many do not want to be stagnant in their minds and not max out a situation to prepare for a career early. Small, but very lucrative earning window in athletics. Hubert would be silly to put his head in the sand and ignore the portal and reclassifications as would any player be foolish not check all their opportunities.
It is the reality, one Hubert did not implement, but it is the reality of the job today.
Part of me is hoping that this year’s massive roster turnover is more situational rather than an indication of policy. Only time will tell.
But, after the year he just had, my guess is Hubert felt that time is a luxury he didn’t have.
I believe the extraordinary underperformance last year prompted a wholesale gutting of the roster. I hope moving forward we will see much more player development and much less reliance on ‘guns for hire’
As I said though… time will tell.
I like the optimism but I’d bet we better get used to Tombstone. Lol wild Wild West
I am afraid of the alternative to my optimistic view.
There is virtually no regulation on NIL and the transfer rules have become so lax that an escalation of this chaos seems likely.
Here’s a crazy idea: since college players are professionals anyway, how long todo you think it’ll be before players who left for the NBA with eligibility remaining but didn’t make it go back to college? If Justin Jackson goes another couple of years out of thr NBA, could he come back and play his last year at UNC?
I’ve heard crazier Oz. That fact that it’s not so far fetched is scary. Lol
i can see all barriers or differences between college and pro disappearing. on the court, college ball has been a (less efficient) version of NBA for a while, one on one take the first available shot, etc. so eroding other distinctions between college and pro is simply following the trend.
This! F ing Bilas has been advocate for this for years and he hardly even commented on the negative ramifications it has had on College basketball. Head in sand, still doubling down on " Best for the athlete" bullshit. How is the ultimate possibility of College sports going extinct the " Best for the athlete "🤨
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The problem with NIL and portal is that it wasn't thought through, with no real guard rails.
No .. it was well thought out because the long term, and continuing goal, of the NCAA was to bring parity to college sports. Their (NCAA) agenda is $$ focused and the more parity they provide the more schools have a shot at the big prize and the more viewers (revenue) they get. jmo
There is not one shred of evidence that college bball is going away! Free agency did not kill pro sports even though many peeps claimed it would. The designated hitter did not kill baseball. Zones did not kill pro bball and the shot clock or 3 pt line did not kill college bball! Peeps love their pro teams just as much now as they did then. I will love UNC all the way through all the changes and nothing external will change that! If UNC decides to change and, for example, starts firing coaches simply because they have a bad season or don't play the style online experts like; OR if UNC starts compromising ethically and/or abandons the Family idea or the Carolina Way-This would cause me to change my loyalty! The game will always evolve, sometimes in unfortunate ways, but UNC will adjust and find a way to succeed!
That isn't what the new president of the NCAA said: "I think it was a big mistake by the NCAA not to do a framework around NIL when they had the opportunity to," Baker said during the Future of College Athletics Summit, not far from Capitol Hill. "And I think there were too many people in college sports who thought no rules would work really well for them. And what everybody's discovered is no rules, no transparency, no accountability, no framework, doesn't work well for anybody."
And was, by all reports, miserable on a team that was ten games under .500. Good for him.
