Hubert Davis, if you or someone you know happens to read this, at this point we have nothing to lose, our chance at the NCAAT seems now to be down to our winning the ACCT and we can agree that is more mountain than hill as is now. May offer a couple suggestions...

1) How about we now stop all this auto switching on defense, how about we now teach players to fight thru screens and switch only when it is the very last resort? How about we teach the players, when one guy leaves to try to double that we rotate someone to fill?

2) How about we realize that the smaller team is at a disadvantage in half court and it slows tempo. So why not use a quickness advantage a smaller team has, using much more pressure across the full court, speed the other team up. Pitt basically played 6 guys last night and yet if anything they looked like the fresher team?

3) How about our most athletic big man in JWit get reasonable minutes, maybe reconsider having Drake at 6'6" as a freshman and around 205lbs move to his real position at the 3/2? Why not at least try to even out the length and size disadvantage we go in to every game with as best we can?

4) How about we instruct our guards and especially RJ to not pound the air out of the ball in a half court offense and rather go directly on the attack if a break ops is not there?

5) How about we share with all our players that turning your head away from the ball makes it really hard to see the ball and if you can see the ball you can not defend it?

6) Can we now maybe revisit the UNC free lance motion offense and maybe not camp guys in each deep corner, especially guys that are not knock down shooter? This spread offense does not seem to be spreading, the driving lanes are not clearing so maybe we get those guys stuck in the deep corner moving and setting screens in sync with our ball handlers?


Hubert, what do you have to lose at this point, maybe leave what ever it is you are trying to do and go back to what worked under Roy while you were his assistant coach? The suggestion being what ya doing ain't working, maybe it is time to stop defining the meaning of the word insanity?

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sdingeldein said:

Unless you think HD lied in his post game, they aren't listening to what he is telling them and doing their own thing when they want to.

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I think Hubert lied. Either that, or he is terrible at communicating what he wants them to do. Because if a player is going rogue, then any good coach would promptly sit them down and replace them with someone that will do what he is instructing. But he's not doing that. And frankly, what kind of coach keeps blaming the players? Mick Cronin. And apparently Hubert.

If the players aren't doing what he instructs, it's a coaching problem. The composition of the team is a coaching problem. The offense we run (or lack thereof) is a coaching problem. The terrible execution down the stretch is a coaching problem. In fact, I can't think of anything having to do with a college basketball team that's not a coaching problem. You're the coach - FIX THE GODDAM PROBLEM!

The composition of the team is flawed, for sure. Small guards, no real power presence on the inside. I didn't see the first half but saw the second half and what I saw was too much dribbling, bad turnovers at bad times. Agree the officiating was one-sided. RJ got absolutely hammered going to the basket late in the game (replay showed it clearly) and no call. We can blame HD - and ultimately the buck stops with him - but the players deserve some blame. Unless you think HD lied in his post game, they aren't listening to what he is telling them and doing their own thing when they want to. I continue to say there is a "locker room" issue with this team. I'm more convinced of it than ever.

DaveChapelle said:

Exactly what every flat earther does when forced to stand face to face with actual facts.

You've already made 2 posts tonight talking about oral sex with Hubert Davis (both of which I screenshotted and reported.) Because you have nothing and you never did.

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God you're lame. I'm not telling you to kill yourself because I got in trouble last time I did that. I'll just say that if I was like you, I'd kill myself.

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Yet again, defeat snatched from the jaws of victory...

Tiny team, one of the smallest teams in D-1 ball, got even smaller by JWash being out, so what do we do to help this, we play our most athletic big man a total of 3mins, in those 3min he scored 5pts. Lubin, once again, played hard but the combination of his being so under sized and logging 32mins means he gets worn out late in the game. Near the end of BOTH halves we go in to scoring and defensive slumps.

Seth yet another double double, he didn't shoot well but back to back 12 board games is tuff tuff for a 6'3" wing. Assist totals for Cadeau and RJ looked good, RJ was efficient shooting going 6-12, 3-6 from trey while handing out 5 assists, Cadeau 5-10, but only 1-6 from trey, add his 7 assists. Yet, this doesn't speak to their guards whipping our little guards on the other end. Maybe RJ needs to change from those pink shoes, can't seem to stay on his feet, he is falling down out of no where last few games?

Simply, to often it looks like we are a boat without a rudder. Small team that does not dictate tempo or jump shoot consistently and ends up having to play way to much half court, we don't create a lot of TOs with steels or blocks. our guards to drive effectively when they have a lane but are as well known to drive in to the teeth of defense and we did so over and over last night.

On to duke, not looking forward to this one coming up, could get real ugly real quick.

gary-7 said:

granted, it was a horrifically one-sided officiating buttf***ing in which we never saw the bonus despite being fouled on every possession...

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I never engage in ref-bashing but are you kidding me? TWO attempts by RJ, ZERO by Elliot, ZERO by Lubin?

GMAFB

Let me fill in where Gary has left off.

We have no identity. We have no offense. It's bad throughout the game but it seems that Hubert tries very hard to make it worse down the stretch of games. We stand around pounding the ball into the floor until 8 seconds left on the shot clock when someone has to try to beat their man. It's embarrassing. It's dreadful coaching.

As the season goes on, for the life of me, I can't understand how Hubert has gotten these guys to come play for him. He seems to have no direction. What is he selling the players? What is he selling the parents? Anyone with any basketball knowledge whatsoever knows this isn't a personnel problem. Sure, we missed on some guys. I get that. We've talked about that. We probably should have said goodbye to Davis and done whatever we could have to keep Ingram or sign a big time center. We obviously wasted a large amount of money on Cade Tyson, who does not belong on an ACC court. Huge miss in evaluation of talent there. But all that aside, we have enough talent to not look like this. In other words, we're worse than our talent would suggest. The whole is worse than the sum of its parts.

This has to be it for Hubert. I just don't see what justification can be used to keep him around. The program is embarrassing itself right now.

Does Hubert tell Seth to never give the ball up on a fast break no matter what? Most selfish player I’ve seen at UNC when it comes to that. It always leads to him taking a difficult shot when it shouldn’t. If I was the only guy back trying to stop the fast break I would ‘t even worry about him giving the ball up and just guard him.

Has Lubin ever made one shot off a move he made or all of his shots off no dribble layups and dunks. That guy has no handles whatsoever. Every time he tried a move last night he turned the ball over.

What the world needs is a Sports AI that can run zillions of simulations. So, for example, we could see how this team would perform with Dean Smith or King Rice or whoever coaching the same roster.

It's possible that Hubert is doing quite well (compared to other coaches) in getting the best out of this team. I don't quite buy that, but it's possible.

trimbornunc86 said:

I think its one of those things that you have to put blame on the coach and the players...I dont know what else to say. Its embarrassing at this point, you see bits and pieces throughout the game where they look danm good and your like "ohh wow this is what the team could be" but more often then not its only for 2-3 minutes spurts and then they go back to the same crap team they have been all year. Someone has to get the blame put on them and I think its got to be Hubert. With the Wilson signing I find it hard to believe they would risk him leaving by firing Hubert, even if thats what's best for UNC in the long run. I would say if your going to bring him back next year, you tell him he is going to have a different staff you get him to bring on some legit former head coaches and maybe you get him a GM to help build a team. He does seem like a good recruiter and if we really do have the NIL finally squared away you put him in a better position to succeed

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Is there any indication that Hubert will reshuffle his coaching staff? Whose jobs are in jeopardy?

If Hubert does make staff changes, will that be enough?

Conversely, is there any reason to think UNC is actively checking out replacements for Hubert? If so, who are they looking at?

If they pull the plug on Hubert during the season, who becomes temporary head coach?

gary-7 said:

...and sorry guys, this time I just can't.

When I had to endure watching us butcher another game we should win by double-digits, I'm just not up for analysis.

Now granted, we missed JWash --- oh Good Lord, did we miss JWash... and granted, it was a horrifically one-sided officiating buttf***ing in which we never saw the bonus despite being fouled on every possession... BUT having to watch our guys so often have no idea what they're trying to accomplish as we continually come down with no blue shirts stressing the rim, and/or guys having hands-of-stone or unable to finish or even continue to the right place to receive a pass when we did.......
just nope, can't do it.

So. sorry again, I'll just go back and nostalgically rewatch my Secondary Break GIF or something. I'm out til the weekend...

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You might want to skip what is going to happen Saturday….BloodBath on the way…

I’ve tried to sleep on it but still pissed this morning. This team and for most of Hubert’s teams seem to have very low Basketball IQs. But like last night how many times were we up and the ball was moving then we decided to go back to hero ball and one guy take on 3 guys or two guys. Like Davis took it into the trees at the end of the game twice. Once in double coverage and once in triple coverage. Almost every turnover seemed to turn into a fast break for them. EC dribbling between the legs in the paint in double coverage, TO, Jack dribbling between the legs in the paint into double or triple coverage, TO. Im tired of watching Seth (even if he makes it) on a fast break and he has 2 on 1 or 3 on 1, never gives the ball up and takes a difficult shot. Last night he had a couple. One at the end if he gives it up early they score. He realizes he’s screwed and then almost turns it over making a horrible pass. Can Davis just tell Lubin if you catch a pass that is not a simple layup or dunk pass it out. That guy has no moves or handles. I think every possession he had where he tried to make a move he turned it over.

I’m just tired of seeing UNC teams struggle. Theo saying it’s not Hubert. I know a lot is the players fault but have you ever heard the phrase Shadow of the Leader? I’m just tired of watching this team go through stretches of great team basketball then go Hero ball. It’s one thing to move the ball great then just miss a shot. But to stop moving the ball, it’s pretty easy to play D against that. I think almost all those possession led to points for them.

Last 3 losses UNC is 25/33 from the line while opponents are 57/71. The Heels have had had ONE big score in double digits in those 3 games. Last night Carolina's starting backcourt had more turnovers than the entire Pitt team.

This team's identity is "spurts of really good basketball". There is nothing they do well. They showed a stat last night that UNC has had 9 one-possession games. I cannot recall but it seems the score has been close going into the final 4 minutes in every game except maybe 3.

This team cannot finish games. Between lack of leadership on the court and what appears to be a lack of confidence in the staff this team just looks like they expect to lose now. I will probably watch the game Saturday but I expect a total beatdown. Dook's frontcourt will absolutely eat us alive.

I just watched Hubert's post game comments. He looked demoralized and lost. I worry that he and this team won't get appropriately energized by the Duke game.

While winning looks like a tall order, fighting hard shouldn't be.

trimbornunc86 said:

I think its one of those things that you have to put blame on the coach and the players...I dont know what else to say. Its embarrassing at this point, you see bits and pieces throughout the game where they look danm good and your like "ohh wow this is what the team could be" but more often then not its only for 2-3 minutes spurts and then they go back to the same crap team they have been all year. Someone has to get the blame put on them and I think its got to be Hubert. With the Wilson signing I find it hard to believe they would risk him leaving by firing Hubert, even if thats what's best for UNC in the long run. I would say if your going to bring him back next year, you tell him he is going to have a different staff you get him to bring on some legit former head coaches and maybe you get him a GM to help build a team. He does seem like a good recruiter and if we really do have the NIL finally squared away you put him in a better position to succeed

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If they let a one year high school recruit determine who the coach is everyone involved should be fired immediately. I agree he seems to have recruiting chops-outside of big men mostly-but Wilson shouldn’t impact the plan moving forward in the least.

We’ve seen slow starts in all of HD’s seasons so far, with last year being the mildest. But clearly the narrative was that they found something against Oklahoma. It also seems like every year they start with more 5 out nonsense and lazy switches and eventually adjust some after their utter failure. I think the assistants are strong enough but don’t believe that they are being heard by HD for whatever reason.

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Always appreciate your posts Gary as I can’t quite see the game from a coaching POV but totally feel that where you’re coming from.

One thing I noticed with EC (he’s by far my favorite player on this team) on defense is he seems to more visibly relax and then tighten when his man gets the ball, in that explosive way that he does everything. Seems like that visible movement might make him more likely to pick up fouls regardless of the actual contact. I’m sure it also is bothersome to ball handlers and helps him pick up steals and deflections. Do you see that in him and if so what is the adjustment that the staff should be helping him make?

I think its one of those things that you have to put blame on the coach and the players...I dont know what else to say. Its embarrassing at this point, you see bits and pieces throughout the game where they look danm good and your like "ohh wow this is what the team could be" but more often then not its only for 2-3 minutes spurts and then they go back to the same crap team they have been all year. Someone has to get the blame put on them and I think its got to be Hubert. With the Wilson signing I find it hard to believe they would risk him leaving by firing Hubert, even if thats what's best for UNC in the long run. I would say if your going to bring him back next year, you tell him he is going to have a different staff you get him to bring on some legit former head coaches and maybe you get him a GM to help build a team. He does seem like a good recruiter and if we really do have the NIL finally squared away you put him in a better position to succeed

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Damn , even Gary isn't immune to the apathy anymore. This team has just become not-fun and frustrating to watch.

LOL gary. I really do like your posts and I dont tend to disagree with majority of your stuff.. But danm near every time you write about a loss and even a win your always complaining about the officiating.... Every game is going to have good and bad calls I get it but man, it sounds like an excuse when the real problem is the crappy team out there not performing every game

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