This game, as I shared in the game thread, encapsulated in the very last bucket duke got to end the first half. 6'9", #1 pick over all in the next NBA draft hits a jump shot over 5'11" RJ Davis. Duke started 2 6'6" guards, their PG looked like a NFL line backer, a sweet shooting 6'7" projected as a lotto in the next draft in K'snipple, 6'9" #1 pick in the next NBA draft, and Malisquatch at what 7'2 and can hang on the rim while standing flat footed on the court? That is insane length, not just a length advantage at every single position but huge length advantage at each position. Just have to realize how hard that is to contend with.

Your passing lanes shrink, they left Malasquatch in the paint choking off drives. The biggest team in NCAA vs one of the smallest teams in the NCAA, size matter a heck of a lot. I am actually more proud that those kids stood up and fought their behinds off in that second half. I actually saw Hubert do something I did not expect, we actually went to a zone, we actually used multiple defenses I can't recall Hubert having us in a zone since he has been head coach. That was a bit of an amazing half time adjustment, maybe Hubert is beginning to learn.

Team looked intimidated in that first half but they came out and played hard in that second half. It is one thing to watch duke play on tape but UNC simply can not replicate it to be able to be prepared for it, you can only experience it and experience it we darn sure did. I felt going in we were in for a butt kicking experience, I actually felt we would get beat by 30+, it is just a game of match ups and this is the worst match up we could face.

Now I get it, this game feeds to frenzy of the Hubert must go movement, some may not like my not being as upset over this or this game as they are. I am simply looking for positives, looking for things, even this late in the season that show me that we are moving more in a positive direction. Now if we can take how we played and build on it against Pitt, we can take that game. My concern is we have been in this position to build on a tough nose second half come back before only to come out un-prepared in the next.

National Media is now picking up on Hubert being gone at the end of the year…I still feel he gets 1 more but I ask myself why wait….Let’s move on Bubba and be done with this failed experiment…

If this thing goes in the tank the rest of the season something will happen…

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What Would Jesus Do? said:

Not sure why we think we could lure Oats from his successes at Alabama to take over a dumpster fire here.

While looking up Oats to see if he maybe had some strong NC connections - apparently not - I ran into this Wikipedia comment

During the days immediately after Hurley announced his departure, Buffalo's athletic director at the time, Danny White, interviewed the team's players, all of whom advocated for Oats becoming the permanent head coach.​

Which makes me wonder who among our current coaches our players would rally around if told that Hubert was being cut loose. Would they try to save Hubert? Would they get behind Marcus? Who's the players' choice?

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CBB is pretty much pro sports now. Oats would turn us around right away with the transfer portal. Alabama will always be considered a football school first.

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Sk1310 said:

i guess this guy is plugged into coaching hires. I hope this is true, Oats is #1 on my list.

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Not sure why we think we could lure Oats from his successes at Alabama to take over a dumpster fire here.

While looking up Oats to see if he maybe had some strong NC connections - apparently not - I ran into this Wikipedia comment


Which makes me wonder who among our current coaches our players would rally around if told that Hubert was being cut loose. Would they try to save Hubert? Would they get behind Marcus? Who's the players' choice?

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1heel4life said:

Anyone who thinks we would beat dook in the ACC Tournament is completely out of their mind....................

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I would love to see us hire Kelvin Sampson. His teams play hard and defend with his athletes. He`s also a NC native. He recruits dawgs not soft pussies. Thats all folks!!!!!

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Anyone who thinks we would beat dook in the ACC Tournament is completely out of their mind....................

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gary-7 said:

Why in the hell would you start our smallest iineup against the biggest team in D1 unless you're gonna PRESS?

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Sounds like a good question to me.

Goheels83 said:

Is North Carolina serious? What UNC does with basketball coach Hubert Davis will tell us
https://sports.yahoo.com/north-carolina-serious-unc-does-020845012.html
Holy crap did anybody see this article in USA Today

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Great article. Dude appears unbiased and hit the nail on the head.

I think most wanted Hubert to work. Carolina lineage, great guy, would have been an awesome success story.... All except he can't coach. ESPN's SVP said it best, "Carolina being OK, is NOT OK".

We are trapped in a conference without big football money influence. That leads to tighter nil budgets. That leads to fewer quality players and fewer quad one win opportunities within league. There is just no room in this equation for an average or below average coach to learn on the job.

It sucks for Hubert because, by all accounts, he is a great person. So is my Aunt Anne but she can't coach worth a shit either. I have to believe Bubba has already started his search to replace Hubert.

39 Feet Above Sea Level said:

H8 the blued evils with vociferous passion, but Face scouted us perfectly and locked up our guards
and occupied the passing lanes, so good on them.
Many excellent comments so far. I don’t know exactly why, but l agree with @tarwhiz, 8 out of 9
is possible; l’ll go one step further: if Hubert follows @gary-7’s suggestion and gets seriously multiple on defense,
we could win all nine. OK, my brothers disagree, my wife disagrees, my nephew is oiling his mitt
for baseball season and disagrees, but….

1) fewer turnovers + more made shots + a defensive attitude = victories
2) You saw some positive changes that were successful, Hubert. Stick with them.

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I think the idea that the solutions are on this roster just isn't the case. Some zone may have appeared to work in the 2H, but zone isn't realistic for a team that goes 6'0", 5'11", and 6'4". Unless that's more of an attacking zone. Also, this team is tiny and bad in the frontcourt so you expose yourself to offensive rebounding.

Regarding high octane pressure all game... Also, this team isn't deep right? When they start 4 guards, they don't have a backup guard on the bench, lol. Then factor in that Elliot Cadeau is averaging 5 fouls/40 minutes against top 100 opponents. If you can absolutely guarantee that Cadeau won't get into foul trouble, then maybe but then this team has no depth. I don't know how sustainable that is.

Also, this team ranks 317th in the country in defensive turnover percentage. I think it's expecting a lot for that to suddenly change.

It's also 20+ games into the season. You're not going to reinvent the wheel and completely alter the way this team plays unless they have a talent upgrade on the bench somewhere (like when PJ Hairston started over Desmond Hubert). That doesn't exist on this team. They've probably practiced believing in their system for 20+ games and they're not going to change everything because they have 4-5 days off.

Maybe they can implement some of those things more, but they're trapped because they're really small and quite frankly, they're not good. There's only so much you can do when you're not any good.

Don't get me wrong. I think they can close the season stacking some wins because they get Pitt and Duke at home. Maybe they shoot the ball well at Clemson. There are paths where this team can win 7 or 8 games to close out the reg season IMO. It's not going to change my overall feelings about this team. They are what they are. To expect sudden consistency and quality is rather hopeful.

Credit to you being more optimistic than I am. It's a resolution I've already given up on in 2025, lol.

39 Feet Above Sea Level said:

H8 the blued evils with vociferous passion, but Face scouted us perfectly and locked up our guards
and occupied the passing lanes, so good on them.
Many excellent comments so far. I don’t know exactly why, but l agree with @tarwhiz, 8 out of 9
is possible; l’ll go one step further: if Hubert follows @gary-7’s suggestion and gets seriously multiple on defense,
we could win all nine. OK, my brothers disagree, my wife disagrees, my nephew is oiling his mitt
for baseball season and disagrees, but….

1) fewer turnovers + more made shots + a defensive attitude = victories
2) You saw some positive changes that were successful, Hubert. Stick with them.

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I disagree with the both of us in my head 😆

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Spaceytoyz said:

Sample size playing time doesn’t help , it does look bad when he goes in but if we played Belmont and he was on the other team he would have 18 points

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He struggled mightily against the power 4 teams he played against while at Belmont too. Awful games.

damn facts

All but Marcus Paige are fat & seem to be lazy.

Is North Carolina serious? What UNC does with basketball coach Hubert Davis will tell us
https://sports.yahoo.com/north-carolina-serious-unc-does-020845012.html
Holy crap did anybody see this article in USA Today

i guess this guy is plugged into coaching hires. I hope this is true, Oats is #1 on my list.

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