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I think polls are pretty meaningless until after the Thanksgiving tournaments. The SEC gets a huge bump in football every year because they get so many teams ranked in preseason polls, so a loss to one does not hurt as much. The ACC once upon a time actually got the same benefit in basketball (you young people may not believe that but there was a time best basketball conference was even debatable).

I read somewhere that pomeroy is simply about the math, and his formulas do not take game location into account. I think that is a huge negative. Under his formula if UNC beats Kansas at KU and dook beats them in HIS by the same score, both wins count the same.

I have always been very skeptical of those algorithms. As someone once said, "there are lies, damn lies and statistics".

Heels Noir said:

This goes with what I've been telling these MAGA idiots each time they ask the tired old question, Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine while Trump was in office?

The easy answer is he didn't need to when he had an ally like Donald Trump in office who was promising to dismantle NATO and sowing division among the citizens of the U.S., the things Putin wanted most.

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Ok. And? Did it hurt America? Were we wasting money?

gteeitup said:

hasan has had quite the week so far

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BLM protestors aren’t dogs. Did she mean dogshit? I’d go with dogshit. Dogs are desirable. Dogshit is not.

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joeydavid said:

Trump absolutely deserves criticism for wrecking the economy. He thought lying to public was good for his political position.

Biden also deserves for credit for fixing the disaster he inherited and got the country ahead of it's precovid projections.

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Parody account. It’s confirmed.

blazers said:

By what measure? One benefited from global pandemic in this regard to total people ATTEMPTING to come. Remember that OBAMA deported more people than TRUMP, the pandemic might've been why, but this is something to consider. I get that you like the things coming from Trump's mouth more, but voting for those verbal vomit and empty promises instead of actual results and long-term impact is dangerous.

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Why is it dangerous?

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joeydavid said:

Does he not know that Leon Musk has accepted more government handouts than any person who has ever walked the earth?

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Or mauled the value of twitter? Down 78% since the day he bought it. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-x-worth-79-153837347.html
Besides, since when has one individual (from private industry) had some magic ability to solve US budget and deficit?

Amazing answer. @nctransplant you don't need to address any of my other questions, this is good enough.

Heels Noir said:

This goes with what I've been telling these MAGA idiots each time they ask the tired old question. Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine while Trump was in office?

The easy answer is he didn't need to when he had an ally like Donald Trump in office who was promising to dismantle NATO and sowing division among the citizens of the U.S., the things Putin wanted most.

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Everything you say here, is what his own people have confirmed. It's not even up for debate, unless you live in some fantasy land of misinformation. Like @bluetoe @nctransplant @gunslingerdick etc.

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hasan has had quite the week so far

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Palin was moment when the GOP jumped the shark to this current "we are not-serious people" party.

blazers said:

nctransplant: I want the government to manage money the way I have to.
me: why will maga be better at managing spend?
nctransplant: Elon Musk

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Does he not know that Leon Musk has accepted more government handouts than any person who has ever walked the earth?

hasan has had quite the week so far

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@nctransplant

According to his own National Security Advisor, the only reason trump was continually shit-talking NATO, was to set up a departure from NATO in his 2nd term so his daddy pooty could run all over western Europe.

If you read anything that's not fiction, start with Woodward new book. Trump’s own administration believed trump was being blackmailed. Not some lib, MSM, his own people.

nctransplant: I want the government to manage money the way I have to.
me: why will maga be better at managing spend?
nctransplant: Elon Musk

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Elon Musk

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That's priceless.

nctransplant said:

Elon Musk

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Elon Musk just threw his hat behind Trump a few months ago. He's your reason "maga are better regarding the deficit and budget compared to Dems"? JFC

nctransplant said:

Check the prices when Trump was in office.

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Are you ignoring the prices across the Globe? The entire Globe didn't suffer price increases due to US pres change. Or did it?

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I know which side let the most in.

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By what measure? One benefited from global pandemic in this regard to total people ATTEMPTING to come. Remember that OBAMA deported more people than TRUMP, the pandemic might've been why, but this is something to consider. I get that you like the things coming from Trump's mouth more, but voting for those verbal vomit and empty promises instead of actual results and long-term impact is dangerous.

joeydavid said:

Dude, this is what's wrong with the people who live in the Fox/Newsmax propaganda fake reality.

Obama is who cut the deal with NATO. It predated Trump. Per usual, Trump took credit for a deal that was previously agreed by NATO countries and you just assume he wasn't lying.

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@nctransplant that question is for you. Spending by other nations had been increasing since Obama. And it jumped the most under Biden (due to Russia invading ukraine). Just because Trump says something, doesn't mean it happened because of him or will happen because of him.

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Oh you mean the same global pandemic that you claim made inflation under Biden go skyhigh. You can't have it both ways junior.

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Trump absolutely deserves criticism for wrecking the economy. He thought lying to public was good for his political position.

Biden also deserves for credit for fixing the disaster he inherited and got the country ahead of it's precovid projections.

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Last I checked Trump forced other countries to pay more into NATO.

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Dude, this is what's wrong with the people who live in the Fox/Newsmax propaganda fake reality.

Obama is who cut the deal with NATO. It predated Trump. Per usual, Trump took credit for a deal that was previously agreed by NATO countries and you just assume he wasn't lying.

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joeydavid said:

You mean when he ran the economy into a gutter and 10 million people lost their jobs?

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Oh you mean the same global pandemic that you claim made inflation under Biden go skyhigh. You can't have it both ways junior.

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