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bluetoe
blazers said:
Tell it to RFK
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did RFK post here? I'm telling you, in direct reply to your post. Pesticides are helpful...but misused.



blazers said:
If you tried to suddenly ditch unprocessed food we'd likely have a financial shock, followed by something like a famine.
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Let's see, who was it said that whatever needed to be done, be done 'in a phased, smart manner' ? Oh yeah, that was you calling for the banning of pesticides. Wouldn't you think that anything of import needs to be done this way, and not like Biden getting out of Afghanistan? That's what I think anyway, which is why I said nothing about 'ditching unprocessed foods suddenly'......or even at all, at least not entirely.

One thing I'm convinced that needs to happen though is getting so much sugar out of everything. That could happen immediately AFAIC.
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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

tarheel0910
strummingram said:
What are you referring to when you say **** it up for decades?
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You really don't know how military actions/inactions/policy and intelligence gathering/relationships can **** up stuff long term? For example, we do something to piss off our allies in the intelligence community and they stop sharing intelligence. You think you can just flip a switch and fix that?
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bluetoe said:
there is no need to ban pesticides. There is a need to use them judiciously, and that doesn't mean simply establishing regulations to be largely ignored.
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Tell it to RFK
bluetoe said:
But c'mon man, you're worried about disrupting the food chain that is making us unhealthy? Get a grip. With what we do with processing our massive food production, we might as well just eat gruel anyway. Maybe disrupting the food chain will return us to food with natural freshness and flavor...and health.
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If you tried to suddenly ditch unprocessed food we'd likely have a financial shock, followed by something like a famine.
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bluetoe said:
and here we go. Somebody made a profit so let's put them in the crosshairs. There is no problem with the profits. They are just as entitled to making a profit as is the the kid on the corner lemonade stand. And it isn't up to you how much profit they make, unless you use the marketplace to send your little message.

As you pointed out but fairly well dismissed, the problem, assuming there is one, is with the regulation. This is a good example of draining the swamp or at least attempting to do so. One of the recent videos I watched said that of the past number of top administrators of the FDA (IIRC), something like 12 out of 13 ended up with fat jobs with pharmas. I might not be remembering that exactly but I'm close enough to establish the validity of the point.
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Drain it, but put someone sound of mind in charge, not a quack.
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bluetoe said:
and here we go. Somebody made a profit so let's put them in the crosshairs. There is no problem with the profits. They are just as entitled to making a profit as is the the kid on the corner lemonade stand. And it isn't up to you how much profit they make, unless you use the marketplace to send your little message.

As you pointed out but fairly well dismissed, the problem, assuming there is one, is with the regulation. This is a good example of draining the swamp or at least attempting to do so. One of the recent videos I watched said that of the past number of top administrators of the FDA (IIRC), something like 12 out of 13 ended up with fat jobs with pharmas. I might not be remembering that exactly but I'm close enough to establish the validity of the point.
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But self-regulation + massive profits is a prob.
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bluetoe
blazers said:
I'd love to ban pesticides, i'd love to ban ultraprocessed foods. It would be a healthier America - but those moves could drastically F up America's food chain at the same time. It needs to be done in a phased, smart manner. Good luck on that part, but he needs to stay away from proven vaccines.
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there is no need to ban pesticides. There is a need to use them judiciously, and that doesn't mean simply establishing regulations to be largely ignored.

But c'mon man, you're worried about disrupting the food chain that is making us unhealthy? Get a grip. With what we do with processing our massive food production, we might as well just eat gruel anyway. Maybe disrupting the food chain will return us to food with natural freshness and flavor...and health.
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bluetoe
blazers said:
There are problems with Big pharma in terms of profits, there are times when vaccines can be harmful (MORE REGULATION here would be a good thing), and to his point Big pharma shouldn't be doing the regulation, some neutral org should (but this means MORE gov). But they don't cause autism. They are more helpful than harmful.
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and here we go. Somebody made a profit so let's put them in the crosshairs. There is no problem with the profits. They are just as entitled to making a profit as is the the kid on the corner lemonade stand. And it isn't up to you how much profit they make, unless you use the marketplace to send your little message.

As you pointed out but fairly well dismissed, the problem, assuming there is one, is with the regulation. This is a good example of draining the swamp or at least attempting to do so. One of the recent videos I watched said that of the past number of top administrators of the FDA (IIRC), something like 12 out of 13 ended up with fat jobs with pharmas. I might not be remembering that exactly but I'm close enough to establish the validity of the point.
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