thomdrix said:

TRIMBLE!
Wow, I don’t know if starting him is the move, but he definitely deserves starter minutes.
Cadeau, RJ and Trimble lineups will be fun to watch.

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Seth is making it awfully hard to keep him out of the starting lineup, but either way, he'll get 20+ minutes.

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tmatheny said:

How did Lubin play?

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He is what we knew he was. Solid "old-man" game and will always fight to try to cope with disadvantages in length and athleticism. I think what we saw here was a solid backup at the 5/4 positions. And as others mentioned, needs to ALWAY anticipate a Cadeau pass.

pooponduke said:

Wait. So, you think these people are different from the rest of the larger subset of states who aren't so clueless about issues, candidates and parties that they do already know how they want to vote?

THAT does explain a lot.

And the EC is the only thing that keeps candidates from doing anything other than showing up in the fifteen or so most populace states and in particular the 25 or so major cities across the country. But that would be just fine from your perspective of candidates.

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Montana's 600,000 were the difference in the Bush v Gore super tight race. They would matter more without the EC than they do now. So yes, they're get more attention.

pooponduke said:

Ah, now I get it. You dispute everything he claims, except when you agree with him. There is absolutely nothing moderate about who the D's cater to and their agenda. You always seem to push the Q and Proud Boy agenda and falsely attach it as an attack on orange. Stuff like Charlottesville, which you STILL have not admitted was a lie repeated by yourself. You need to look in a mirror about the divisiveness and stop using words like Hitler, bloodbath, dictator, etc.

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Do you or do you not think the EC promotes moderate candidates?

What Would Jesus Do? said:

This.

The EC encourages focus on that small subset of voters in a small subset of states (battleground stat who are so clueless about issues, candidates and parties that they don't already know how they want to vote.

God help us!

And yet, that explains a lot, doesn't it?

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Wait. So, you think these people are different from the rest of the larger subset of states who aren't so clueless about issues, candidates and parties that they do already know how they want to vote?

THAT does explain a lot.

And the EC is the only thing that keeps candidates from doing anything other than showing up in the fifteen or so most populace states and in particular the 25 or so major cities across the country. But that would be just fine from your perspective of candidates.

What Would Jesus Do? said:

Why is it that those who promote this deceit seem unconcerned that the alternative is tyranny of the minority?

We have safeguards in the constitution - especially the Bill of Rights - against the worst excesses of any potential tyranny of the majority. And if they aren't good enough, a democracy can supplement them through legislation.

The EC is not one such protection, since it entrenches unequal power.

What we don't have is sufficient protection against our government being captured by corporate and private wealth.

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@pooponduke instead of respond on the topic of Tyranny of Majority more i'll just repost this. Your vids commentary is theoretical while we have actual protections in Bill of Rights, the "checks and balances" via the trio branches, etc.

pooponduke said:

Effects of Abolishing the Electoral College

Politics: From "Retail" to "Wholesale"

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Too late. He kinda admits it. The internet has trumped the town hall. And again, at present you can focus on the mass media for swing-states only. In NC i'm seeing continuous mailers and commercials... i bet Wyoming gets zero.

pooponduke said:

The Decline of "Rural Issues"

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Rural issues outside of swing states don't matter though. Wyoming might have a specific need which is Rural, but it is going to be ignored unless that same matter is important to a swing state. Why are we talking about Fracking? Cuz Pennsylvania.

Small states are an afterthought, even the rural ones. NH is probably the only "swing" state, even though it has such a small number of EC votes it barely fits in this category. And states extremely rural are typically not swing states, so also an afterthought.

Some urban places are very Dem, but not all. Phoenix (Maricopa county) is the 5th biggest city, 48% of the county went for Trump.

pooponduke said:

Greater Potential for Election Integrity Concerns

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I kinda agree. But at the same time his explanation could be restated as "currently, election integrity issues are only targeted or questioned at swing states". All the shenanigans focus on AZ and GA...

blazers said:

Winner take all is an example of Tyranny of the Majority. 6 million republicans in CA are losing their voice because the Majority is squashing their vote. Plus there are other much more impactful protections against "Tyranny of the majority" built into our gov.

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Don't be Noir and act so stupidly. The video addressed it and so did I with my comments about a separate discussion for the winner take all implementation. So, nice try. You only want the Tyranny of the Majority to get worse. Ever heard the expression about throwing out the baby with the bath water?

blazers said:

Are you joking? Nothing is nationwide about presidential politics. It's about swing states only, with occasional steps elsewhere for sake of down-ballot impacts on congress. The current system actually HINDERS nationwide campaigns. There are 6 million republicans in CA, more than either Tx or FL and they're ignored. Small states get almost no attention regardless or whether they're more rural (wyoming) or urban (delaware).

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That's funny. Guess all those campaign stops and rallies in those places that aren't swing states and towns in rural areas don't really happen. And you think it would improve with the elimination of the EC? Get a life and stop lying through your blue teeth. You only want a system, any system that improves your party's chances.

blazers said:

He says "AT LEAST IT USED TO encourage moderation amongst Candidates". There is absolutely nothing moderate about maga... Trump spouts direct garbage from QANON and also embraces divisiveness.

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Ah, now I get it. You dispute everything he claims, except when you agree with him. There is absolutely nothing moderate about who the D's cater to and their agenda. You always seem to push the Q and Proud Boy agenda and falsely attach it as an attack on orange. Stuff like Charlottesville, which you STILL have not admitted was a lie repeated by yourself. You need to look in a mirror about the divisiveness and stop using words like Hitler, bloodbath, dictator, etc.

blazers said:

Are you joking? Nothing is nationwide about presidential politics. It's about swing states only

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This.

The EC encourages focus on that small subset of voters in a small subset of states (battleground states) who are so clueless about issues, candidates and parties that they don't already know how they want to vote.

God help us!

And yet, that explains a lot, doesn't it?

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What Would Jesus Do? said:

Good idea.

Who knew you were so strongly in favor of democracy?

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It would be if we were a democracy instead of a constitutional republic.

pooponduke said:

Safeguards against "Tyranny of the Majority"

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Why is it that those who promote this deceit seem unconcerned that the alternative is tyranny of the minority?

We have safeguards in the constitution - especially the Bill of Rights - against the worst excesses of any potential tyranny of the majority. And if they aren't good enough, a democracy can supplement them through legislation.

The EC is not one such protection, since it entrenches unequal power.

What we don't have is sufficient protection against our government being captured by corporate and private wealth.

DSouthr said:

He is a blue collar role player and he was solid in his role last night considering it was his first UNC vs another opponent game. I would give him a B+, makes nice cuts to the basket and Cadeau will find him. Looks to me like a version of Harrison Brooks.

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Or is it Garrison Barnes? 😂

Thanks all for sharing your takes on the game - good to see some insight on this year's squad in live action v. a good opponent on the road.

bluetoe said:

And if we do away with the electoral college and elect with popular votes, shouldn't we also do away with the Senate, which affords equal representation to each State?

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Good idea.

Who knew you were so strongly in favor of democracy?

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pooponduke said:

Benefits of the Electoral College

Safeguards against "Tyranny of the Majority"

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Winner take all is an example of Tyranny of the Majority. 6 million republicans in CA are losing their voice because the Majority is squashing their vote. Plus there are other much more impactful protections against "Tyranny of the majority" built into our gov.

pooponduke said:

Fosters Truly Nationwide Campaigns

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Are you joking? Nothing is nationwide about presidential politics. It's about swing states only, with occasional steps elsewhere for sake of down-ballot impacts on congress. The current system actually HINDERS nationwide campaigns. There are 6 million republicans in CA, more than either Tx or FL and they're ignored. Small states get almost no attention regardless or whether they're more rural (wyoming) or urban (delaware).

pooponduke said:

Encourages Moderation Amongst Candidates

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He says "AT LEAST IT USED TO encourage moderation amongst Candidates". There is absolutely nothing moderate about maga... Trump spouts direct garbage from QANON and also embraces divisiveness.

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tmatheny said:

How did Lubin play?

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He is a blue collar role player and he was solid in his role last night considering it was his first UNC vs another opponent game. I would give him a B+, makes nice cuts to the basket and Cadeau will find him. Looks to me like a version of Harrison Brooks.

Ozheelfan said:

Agree 100%
This is not a knock on RJ, but he is not a college point guard.
RJ will get assists, as he did last year, especially as the second passer.
This is because he is so much better receiving the ball in the front court instead of the backcourt.
So yeah, it’d be great to have Seth (when EC is out) taking the ball from rebounds and inbounds, allowing RJ to find his spots to be most effective.

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Seth was fantastic against Memphis, but when EC took a rest in the 2nd half and Seth ran the show, it simply didn't work.

Maybe a fluke? Maybe just against Memphis?

It would be great if Seth has PG chops, but does he?

Hubert didn't seem to think so last year, but maybe he'll give Seth a chance this season.

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