I'm thinking that these two lines of traitorous behavior can co-exist for the most part, not an either or but a likely aspect of whatever any given situation allowed. Also, I think Joe could have been constantly manipulated and duped while all at the same time still looking out for number one.
I can't stand the grift of our current man selling trading cards, bibles, sneakers, cologne, etc., but I think it is both hilarious and the ultimate hypocrisy that some here attack the Orangeman for his moneymaking while refusing to see the obviousness of others who are simply less obvious.
