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Late stuff (KU game)...

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gary-7 said:
...and well, damn.

As I tried to explain beforehand, beating KU at Phog was a monumental task, but y'know what? We damn near did.
So, let's take a look:

- Sorry (not) if it offends anybody, but some of the nonsense I've seen posted here was exposed for what it is. We just walked into the toughest environment in college hoops, against the #1 team, and took it to the wire. This UNC team is not a "mess". It has strengths and weaknesses and iis a work-in-progress.

- So, basic stuff. KU got "home cooking" in being allowed to be "physical" and Good Lord at the uncalled illegal screens --- I counted TWELVE of the handoff/ass-check variety --- but here's the good news: As I've harped on over and over, the AGGRESSOR gets the calls, and we didn't back down. Instead, we maintained aggressiveness and kept attacking the basket, and started geting enough calls to get to the line enough to make a difference. This was vital, as we shot 28/31 FTs.

- Reality check: OK -- we all know that we lack bulk inside, but as I mentioned pregame, Dickinson cannot guard JWash. Well, turns out he couldn't guard Withers either. JWit knoked down huge 3s and drove to the rack effectively in the second half.

- In the texts I get from my "coach-mafia" during games, the adjective that is so often used to describe Cadeau is "sick". Well yeah... my boy is SICK. Folks, we're watching something VERY special here, and he needs to play 35+ each and every game, as he is the ONE guy we can't replace.

- Our "comeback" was fueled by what I prescribed pregame --- REBOUNDING!!! They were unconscious shooting in the first half, but we cleaned glass in the second, and the transition game got going. After getting bullied on the glass in the first half, we ended up outrebounding them by one for the game!

- On a personnel note. Harris is a dirty little f***, and EC flat took him to school.

- Bad news: Too much "hero-ball". Shot-selection hurt us late. RJ was forcing all game, and despite Withers' key shots, he also forced late.

- As for the Frosh, Jackson rose to the occasion with some key ifrst-half contributions. Powel gave as good as he got, and our guy James Brown acquitted himself well.

- Hubert, my brother: PLEASE run more offense thru JWash and PLEASE utilize scrambles; These guys are made for it and our personnel can't be allowed to be sitting ducks. FORCE THE ACTION instead of allowing opponents to bully.

Anyway, hopefully we can stop dissing this team. There are areas for needed improvement for damned sure, but we can compete with ANYBODY... :cool:
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Spot on gary-7! I loved how we came out in the second half and took it to them! Our D stepped up and boy did we rebound! So awesome to have a true PG! Cadeau is an elite level passer! The contributions we got was good off the bench. I really like Trimble and what he brings. It’s early and guys are learning roles. A lot of learning and growing went on in that second half. You nailed it Gary- we forced it a little in crunch time, but will learn from it! We showed we can play with anybody!
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Late stuff (KU game)...

gary-7
...and well, damn.

As I tried to explain beforehand, beating KU at Phog was a monumental task, but y'know what? We damn near did.
So, let's take a look:

- Sorry (not) if it offends anybody, but some of the nonsense I've seen posted here was exposed for what it is. We just walked into the toughest environment in college hoops, against the #1 team, and took it to the wire. This UNC team is not a "mess". It has strengths and weaknesses and is a work-in-progress.

- So, basic stuff. KU got "home cooking" in being allowed to be "physical" and Good Lord at the uncalled illegal screens --- I counted TWELVE of the handoff/ass-check variety --- but here's the good news: As I've harped on over and over, the AGGRESSOR gets the calls, and we didn't back down. Instead, we maintained aggressiveness and kept attacking the basket, and started getting enough calls to get to the line enough to make a difference. This was vital, as we shot 28/31 FTs.

- Reality check: OK -- we all know that we lack bulk inside, but as I mentioned pregame, Dickinson cannot guard JWash. Well, turns out he couldn't guard Withers either. JWit knoked down huge 3s and drove to the rack effectively in the second half.

- In the texts I get from my "coach-mafia" during games, the adjective that is so often used to describe Cadeau is "sick". Well yeah... my boy is SICK. Folks, we're watching something VERY special here, and he needs to play 35+ each and every game, as he is the ONE guy we can't replace.

- Our "comeback" was fueled by what I prescribed pregame --- REBOUNDING!!! They were unconscious shooting in the first half, but we cleaned glass in the second, and the transition game got going. After getting bullied on the glass in the first half, we ended up outrebounding them by one for the game!

- On a personnel note. Harris is a dirty little f***, and EC flat took him to school.

- Bad news: Too much "hero-ball". Shot-selection hurt us late. RJ was forcing all game, and despite Withers' key shots, he also forced late.

- As for the Frosh, Jackson rose to the occasion with some key ifrst-half contributions. Powel gave as good as he got, and our guy James Brown acquitted himself well.

- Hubert, my brother: PLEASE run more offense thru JWash and PLEASE utilize scrambles; These guys are made for it and our personnel can't be allowed to be sitting ducks. FORCE THE ACTION instead of allowing opponents to bully.

Anyway, hopefully we can stop dissing this team. There are areas for needed improvement for damned sure, but we can compete with ANYBODY... :cool:
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UNC @ Kansas game thread

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NathanFielder said:
He’s not going to have the same season as last year. Bacot and Ingram could take late shot clock situations from him. RJ’s efficiency will likely take a hit this year.

Honestly, I hope his role reduces. That’s probably a sign that Trimble and Cadeau’s increased production is for real.

Its early but I think camping RJ in the corner with Withers in the opposite corner and Cadeau getting 1-5 ball screens would be UNC’s best half court offense.

The fewer dribbles RJ has in a game, the offense might be better off.
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Not if EC throws the ball away after handling it in the half court. I’m surprised no one has pointed it out. Two to start out the game and two in the mid second half. Weird tos considering how good his looks are. Luckily he has several sweet assists, but not many rebounds. He’s never rebounds well even for a guard. Hopefully he can keep improving for sure. He has great vision and instincts.
Imo after watching this game, we can improve in several areas and be dangerous when it counts.
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Our frontcourt is a mess

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dtodd4475 said:
Well, that changed. He was the strongest force on our roster in the paint. Hurt when he followed out.
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Lubin is a very productive backup big. High IQ, active and tough. He gives us a mobile cutter and offensive rebounder. He keeps his hands high and has nice length despite being only 6'8".
Something needs to happen to unleash Jalen Washington. He really looks healthy and now I think he needs a boost of confidence from his head coach to look for his perimeter offense. He has become a one trick pony through first two games only rolling to the basket. At times he doesn't even face the basket. I think he and Lubin can make a nice 1-2 punch at the 5 spot once JWash opens his game up.
Them maybe D bag will shut his pie hole some
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Postgame Thoughts

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NathanFielder said:
A really interesting game. We saw our flaws, we saw some of our strengths, we saw some surprise contributions too.

Love the fight they showed tonight. The frontcourt is overmatched and Hubert has a lot to figure out there. But we saw the blueprint for this team against Q1 teams and that’s get into the bonus as early as possible and wear out the FT line. That will let them stay in games when they’re not making shots.

It’s early but we saw who Hubert trusts in a big game. Last year, we saw Hubert shrink the bench in big games as soon as Cadeau started. Clearly Tyson needs to do a lot to get minutes in big games unless the matchup is perfect for him.

It’s the type of game where I think almost every feeling is a valid one. The first half was alarming in a bad way. The second half was awesome to see this team has some guts and toughness.

Micro, I feel good about having a chance to win this kind of game when RJ and Cadeau combine 1/10 from 3.

Macro, concern for RJ. No longer have a Bacot or Ingram to take some load off in late clock situations. RJ is kind of flying solo in those situations. His efficiency will take a hit this season.

Although Washington is capable of making the shot he took, I want the final minute execution to be better. Too many times over the last 2 seasons where the wrong player took a critical shot or the execution was terrible. You shot 31 FTs. Put the pressure on the defense.

Also too many transition points allowed by the second unit in the first half. I know your freshmen but have to understand floor balance and sprinting back on every play. This team isn’t good enough to be giving up transition points.

Also, its early but we got a glimpse on who Hubert trusts in a real game. Right now it’s 8 dudes. Unless Tyson didn’t play because of the matchup, he will need to earn some trust.

Fun game. It’s a “socrates asks whose bias do you seek” kind of game.
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Very good post! You touched on a lot of things I was seeing during the game.
Couple things: Washington has to have a more pronounced offensive role at the top of the key. He rolled 💯 of the time tonight. In a game where he could have made a big difference pulling Dickinson away from the basket. Our guards struggled finishings over size in the first half, because they had no lob pass opportunities due to Dickinson and Bindinga playing drop coverage.
Withers made a huge difference tonight, and he has had games like this in the past. I would love for J With to continue in this role, but it would be great to see Cade Tyson get the confidence to be on the court at the end of games( at least on offense) I have real doubts about his ability to defend anybody right now. His brother Hunter was ACC defensive player of the year! So maybe there is still hope.
I love Luben in his role as first big off the bench. He is active, tough and has a good basketball IQ.
Drake will be a defensive force by Jan. Hubert also needs to find the right mix of guys when Capt Jack is in the game to really utilize his scoring abilities.
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UNC-Kansas Postgame Notes

andrew jones
KANSAS 92, CAROLINA 89
NOVEMBER 8, 2024
ALLEN FIELDHOUSE, LAWRENCE, KAN.

UNC Scoring Leader: Seth Trimble 19
UNC Rebound Leader: Jalen Washington and Jae’Lyn Withers 9
UNC Assist Leader: Elliot Cadeau 7
Team Records: UNC 1-1, Kansas 2-0

• Seth Trimble led UNC with a career-high 19 points. It was the second straight game Trimble set a career scoring high and it was the first time in his career he led UNC in scoring. He is the first player on this year’s team to ever lead UNC in scoring in a game other than RJ Davis.
• Carolina trailed by 20 points in the first half (KU led 49-29 and 51-31) but the Tar Heels rallied back to take a four-point lead at 87-83.
• It was the first time UNC took the lead in a game in which it trailed by at least 20 points since a two-point loss to Georgia Tech in the Smith Center on 1/16/2010.
• Carolina made 28 free throws and 27 field goals. It was the first time it made more FTs than FGs since last season’s home win in December over Florida State.
• The Jayhawks scored 53 first-half points, most by an opponent in the first half in Hubert Davis’ four seasons as head coach (previous highs were 50 by College of Charleston on 11/11/2022 and Brown on 11/12/2021).
• The 55 points were the most in the opening half since Kentucky scored 56 on 12/17/2016 in Las Vegas.
• Six Tar Heels scored in double figures, the first time UNC had six since a win over Charleston Southern on 12/29/2023.
• Trimble was 10 for 10 from free throw line. His previous high for made free throws was four vs. Florida State on 3/14/2024. His previous high for attempts was five last season vs. Lehigh.
• Ian Jackson and Ven-Allen Lubin both scored 10 points, their first double-figure scoring games as a Tar Heel.
• Jae’Lyn Withers made three 3FGs for the second game in a row, the most he has made as a Tar Heel.
• Withers led UNC in plus/minus at +9.
• Carolina made 28 of 31 free throws, a percentage of .903. That was the fifth-best free throw percentage in UNC history in a game it attempted 30 or more free throws. It was the highest ever in a road game.

Highest Free Throw Percentage, 30 or More Attempts
.923 vs. NC State, Jan. 21, 2023 (36x39)
.919 vs. Syracuse, Feb. 26, 2019 (34x37)
^.917 vs. Kentucky, March 19, 1977 (33x36) in College Park, Md.
*.906 vs. Maryland, March 11, 1989 (29x32) in Atlanta
.903 at Kansas, Nov. 8, 2024

• The Tar Heel shot 35.5% from the floor in the first half and 50.0% in the second.
• Carolina out-rebounded KU, 40-39, but the Jayhawks had two more offensive boards (12-10) and out-scored UNC, 14-8, in second chance points.
• Kansas turned the ball over just four times, which equals the sixth-fewest in a game by an opponent since turnovers officially became a stat in the late 1970s.
• Kansas shot 59.5% from the floor in the first half but the Tar Heels held KU to 38.5% in the second half when the Tar Heels out-scored the Jayhawks, 51-39.
• Kansas has won five in a row over the Tar Heels and leads the series, 7-6.
• It was the second straight game KU has defeated the Tar Heels by three points (72-69 in the 2022 NCAA championship game).
• This was the second time UNC has played in Allen Fieldhouse and the first time since 12/17/1960.
• UNC is 1-1 in Allen Fieldhouse.
• The Tar Heels are 14-21 all-time against AP No. 1-ranked teams, including 6-8 on the road.

Next Game: Friday, November 15 in Chapel Hill vs. American (8 p.m., ACC Network)
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UNC @ Kansas game thread

NathanFielder
TarHeelFanWV said:
If anyone to blame for this loss, it's RJ hands down.. 5th year senior, all American, ACC poy and 3-15 from the field? 1-7 from 3?
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He’s not going to have the same season as last year. Bacot and Ingram could take late shot clock situations from him. RJ’s efficiency will likely take a hit this year.

Honestly, I hope his role reduces. That’s probably a sign that Trimble and Cadeau’s increased production is for real.

Its early but I think camping RJ in the corner with Withers in the opposite corner and Cadeau getting 1-5 ball screens would be UNC’s best half court offense.

The fewer dribbles RJ has in a game, the offense might be better off.
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Postgame Thoughts

NathanFielder
A really interesting game. We saw our flaws, we saw some of our strengths, we saw some surprise contributions too.

Love the fight they showed tonight. The frontcourt is overmatched and Hubert has a lot to figure out there. But we saw the blueprint for this team against Q1 teams and that’s get into the bonus as early as possible and wear out the FT line. That will let them stay in games when they’re not making shots.

It’s early but we saw who Hubert trusts in a big game. Last year, we saw Hubert shrink the bench in big games as soon as Cadeau started. Clearly Tyson needs to do a lot to get minutes in big games unless the matchup is perfect for him.

It’s the type of game where I think almost every feeling is a valid one. The first half was alarming in a bad way. The second half was awesome to see this team has some guts and toughness.

Micro, I feel good about having a chance to win this kind of game when RJ and Cadeau combine 1/10 from 3.

Macro, concern for RJ. No longer have a Bacot or Ingram to take some load off in late clock situations. RJ is kind of flying solo in those situations. His efficiency will take a hit this season.

Although Washington is capable of making the shot he took, I want the final minute execution to be better. Too many times over the last 2 seasons where the wrong player took a critical shot or the execution was terrible. You shot 31 FTs. Put the pressure on the defense.

Also too many transition points allowed by the second unit in the first half. I know your freshmen but have to understand floor balance and sprinting back on every play. This team isn’t good enough to be giving up transition points.

Also, its early but we got a glimpse on who Hubert trusts in a real game. Right now it’s 8 dudes. Unless Tyson didn’t play because of the matchup, he will need to earn some trust.

Fun game. It’s a “socrates asks whose bias do you seek” kind of game.
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