blazers said:

Nikki Haley would have wrapped this thing up by 8:15 eastern.

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I dunno... @tarheel0910 makes a good point... this is a very populist-popular time in America. Hillary lost in 2016 because Bernie capitulated. She was a bonafide bought-and-sold politician. I think Biden won because of how bad Trump handled Covid, and it freaked a lot of people out. The democrats are all-in on establishment politicians.

Nikki Haley is Kamala with an R... at best. Trump stomped her for a reason.

Oh, and democrats pimping-out millionaire and billionaire pop-culture celebrities doesn't help their cause, either. Poor people give less-than-a-shit about Beyonce and Harrison Ford.

Nikki Haley would have wrapped this thing up by 8:15 eastern.

strummingram said:

Don't have to worry about "it was stolen" this time.

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Appears that way. Big cities report late in those blue wall trio though, that's the only hope.

Don't have to worry about "it was stolen" this time.

Some crazy downballot stuff happening eh? Dems might flip the house, it's close. NC Gov, AG, and plenty of other libs winning while Trump also wins - how does that happen? Who voted Trump and then voted Jeff Jackson over Dan Bishop???

uncboy10 said:

Democrats keep insisting on running corporate approved establishment candidates in an age of political populism. The base is moving away from the party and they refuse to adapt.

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They'll change after this and win the next two because Trump will be so bad. If Harris would have won, then Republicans would have changed and won the next two because Harris would have been so bad. That's a storyline that no one really discussed. This election decided the next two.

heelmanwilm said:

Trumps lead in wisc is growing. John king just declared it “mission improbable” for Harris. She’s circling the drain.

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Are they mentioning mirages?
At 4:42 a.m. ET on election night 2020, Milwaukee reported that Biden had received 85% of its 168,000 mail ballots. This caused Biden’s statewide total to increase from 47.3% to 49.3%.

Feels a little early to call Mich or Wisconsin.

uncboy10 said:

Democrats keep insisting on running corporate approved establishment candidates in an age of political populism. The base is moving away from the party and they refuse to adapt.

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That too. How they couldn't find someone better than Biden in 2020 is certainly a sign, and that the he didn't step down til 3 months ago is another.

If ignorance is no excuse then there's plenty of brown and Latino men (based on exit polls), and low-income white folks, that deserve all the shit coming to them.

Feels like some sexism is at play.

Sounds like the senate will be red.

strummingram said:

Naive question... did a google search... will there be mail-in ballot counting after the election day ballot-counts are reported? If so, then anything is still possible? Maybe each state has different rules.

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Lots of different rules.

Trumps lead in wisc is growing. John king just declared it “mission improbable” for Harris. She’s circling the drain.

the biggest surprise to me is Harris doing worse than biden in dem strongholds. When va was close I knew she was in trouble.

uncboy10 said:

Varies by state I think. I know PA was dropping a big batch with their early results. Not sure about NC

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To me it still looks like trump. It’s gonna be razor thin in several critical states but the paths for Harris are dwindling down to the blue wall only and trump has a good lead in pa and a small one in wisc. I’d much rather be trump than her right now. I don’t think it’s gonna be resolved for sure tonight though.

uncboy10 said:

NC still has a lot of uncounted votes coming from blue counties, Mecklenburg in particular.

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Naive question... did a google search... will there be mail-in ballot counting after the election day ballot-counts are reported? If so, then anything is still possible? Maybe each state has different rules.

uncboy10 said:

NC still has a lot of uncounted votes coming from blue counties, Mecklenburg in particular.

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I made a mistake with the NC gap... it's only 120K in NC

uncboy10 said:

I don’t think many models were predicting anything that extreme but if she loses both NC and GA and he breaks up the blue wall then it could get ugly.

Way too early to really have an idea yet.

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In NC, she's down by 250k

In GA, she's down 150k

uncboy10 said:

NC can still swing hard back the other way with so many uncounted votes in Charlotte. If she gets NC I think she wins.

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Harris might lose worse than Hillary.

Finally... a fair election! January 6th, 2025 will not have a MAGA insurrection! Looks like Harris is going to lose...

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That is a interesting list no BlueBloods…

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