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bluetoe
Heels Noir said:
Or another way of putting it is she was giving him ample opportunity to come clean with the voters. His insistence on not answering her primary question and then saying he would not have certified the election if it were him instead of Pence as VP is just shooting himself in his other foot.
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I disagree. He was not on trial, and subject to the sort of tactics you use on someone you have decided is guilty and are trying to prove is guilty as in a court of law. A decent journalist asks a question and then allows the subject to give an answer without badgering him into giving the answer she has decided to get out of him. Had he not answered as he did, his reasonable objection to the election would never have been voiced in the context allowed. And having voiced it, admitting a refusal to certify doesn't sound as horrific as the dems would want to make it seem.
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bluetoe
Heels Noir said:
No different than when you guys share something and link it to FOX News.
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another toadstool to deal with. Pay attention, penisbreath, it's isn't even the same thing. The criticism was not over the worth of the source but the courtesy of linking to the source so we can evaluate it for ourselves as you just referred to having done regarding Fox.....because someone was decent enough and had strong enough conviction to provide a link or otherwise identify the source. This would have been clear if you hadn't used your tired habit of taking words out of context and responding to them to try to seem to have a valid point to drivel about.

And BTW, you'll have a hard time finding me among 'you guys who quote Fox'. I'm not sure I ever have but if I ever did, it was an exception.
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strummingram
bluetoe said:
thanks for showing us this perfectly reasonable response to an interviewer trying her best to put her subject in a corner to get the answer she wanted out of him. I am impressed by the eloquence of his retort to what she wanted to insinuate, which is that the election was contested for no other reason then that it was not won by Trump. There are good reasons that that election should be contested, and he gave one very good one..

That being said, I repeat what I've already said; which is that he should have conceded, just for appearances if nothing else. But the election as it was executed was bogus.
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Who is/was being censored??? I keep hearing about censorship. Who was censored so much that it made Trump lose the election?
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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

bluetoe
Heels Noir said:
He doesn't believe Trump is going to win. He has never thought Trump really had a chance:
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Heels Noir said:
gunslingerdick said:
As much as a Trump second term would please the shit out of me, I really hope he’ll do the right thing and not run again. He’s unelectable. Not because he can’t legitimately win an election. But because he’s so hated that Dems and GOP leaders will come together to cheat him again. So because of that, we can’t have him going after the next best thing in DeSantis.
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bluetoe
joeydavid said:
JV Vance is just such an unlikable weirdo. He definitely wears the scars of being a closeted gay man pretending to be otherwise.

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thanks for showing us this perfectly reasonable response to an interviewer trying her best to put her subject in a corner to get the answer she wanted out of him. I am impressed by the eloquence of his retort to what she wanted to insinuate, which is that the election was contested for no other reason then that it was not won by Trump. There are good reasons that that election should be contested, and he gave one very good one..

That being said, I repeat what I've already said; which is that he should have conceded, just for appearances if nothing else. But the election as it was executed was bogus.
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OOTB's Political Thread . ..

strummingram
joeydavid said:
His book. It really explains a lot of his bizarre behavior.
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Okay... I have no interest in reading that.

I was just trying to understand what relevance his sexuality (repressed or otherwise) has on his comments and perspective in the clip. He sounds like EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN when they're backed into a corner and given a Yes or No option. Almost all of them are former lawyers, or have extensive experience in adjudication complexities. The last place they ever want to be is anywhere near Yes or No. Those require commitment.
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