It is a given that SEC football towers over ACC football. The difference is like the NFL compared to the AFL in 1960. ACC football should be recognized as weaker in terms of top to bottom league quality than the Big Ten, Big 12, and Pac. That makes the ACC worst among the P5, and not even a close #5.

But is the ACC weaker than the AAC? I think that is a toss up. I lean to the ACC, but that means seeing, and touting, that Dook and Wake are among the very best coached teams in the ACC and actually could beat most AAC teams 3 of 4 times because of coaching.

So the top third of the ACC sucks terribly compared to the top third of the SEC. But the bottom third of the ACC is, I think, actually competent compared even to the bottom third of the SEC.

The scariest part is that there may be no way whatsoever for ACC football quality to improve much and remain at that level. Why? Wake and Dook have no fans, and the fewer fans a league has, especially the fewer fans of winning teams, the less likely the league can sustain top level success. Top players want to play in front of large, passionate crowds and no that large numbers of fans watch on TV. Top coaches want to play before the same large number of fans.

That fan issue is not restricted to Wake, Dook, and BC. Pitt is going to average more than 45,000 per game (which would be next to last in the SEC every year) only when it can win 10 games. UNC's football fan base easily gives up, expecting mediocrity all the time. GT not only has little hope of sell outs but draws fewer TV viewers in the Atlanta market than UGA, Auburn, Bama, and Clemson.

It truly does mean MUCH MORE in the SEC. That's the reason that no SEC school but Vandy would hire an over the hill coach like Mack Brown whose only coaching strength is a silver tongue that makes him a top recruiter. It's the reason that every SEC fan base but Vandy's would have already made certain a Dre Bly was fired for being a totally incompetent assistant coach.

For ACC football to catch up so that it regularly is better than all other P5s but the SEC, UNC football must become a determined program with an SEC attitude of No Tolerance for Mediocrity. That plus Clemson and FSU doing the same is required, or else the ACC is going to be battling with the AAC for 5th best conference.

Perhaps it would be best for UNC if the ACC were to be destroyed economically, forcing UNC to go SEC or at least Big Ten. Perhaps only that will force UNC boosters and administrators to reject football mediocrity and mean it.

Hunter gave Bacot a elbow to the face no call,I hope these Refs get Reprimanded.It was Good it didn't escalate to something worse.

NORTH CAROLINA 80, MICHIGAN 76
WEDNESDAY, DEC. 21, 2022
JUMPMAN INVITATIONAL
CHARLOTTE, N.C.

UNC Scoring Leader: Armando Bacot 26
UNC Rebound Leader: Leaky Black 10
UNC Assist Leader: RJ Davis 5
Team Records: UNC 9-4, Michigan 7-4

• Carolina has won four in a row, including back-to-back wins over Big Ten opponents, Ohio State and Michigan.
• The last time UNC defeated Big Ten teams in consecutive games was 2005 when UNC beat Wisconsin, Michigan State and Illinois in the final three games of the NCAA Tournament to win the national championship.
• Carolina improved to 165-27 all-time in Charlotte, including 15-2 in the Spectrum Center.
• Armando Bacot scored a game-high 26 points, his 21st career game with 20 or more (UNC is 17-4 in those games) and sixth career game with 26 or more (UNC is 6-0 in those games).
• Bacot tied his season high with 11 field goals, the second game in a row he made 11. That tied his career high for field goals in consecutive games (he made 12 vs. Virginia and 10 vs. Georgia Tech in January 2022).
• Bacot passed Scott Williams (1,508) and Tyler Zeller (1,501) to move into 30th place in UNC career scoring with 1,518 points. J.R. Reid is 29th with 1,552.
• Bacot led all players on both teams in plus/minus at plus 12. Caleb Love and Puff Johnson were next for UNC at plus 9.
• RJ Davis made a season-high four three-pointers (he had made four in the previous four games combined). It was the eighth time in his career he made four or more threes in a game.
• Davis also had a team-high five assists, which matched his season high. He also had five vs. Charleston, JMU and Portland. Carolina is 16-1 the last two seasons when Davis has five or more assists (and 16-2 in his career).
• Caleb Love scored 18 points and passed Pete Chilcutt for 66th place in UNC history with 1,164 points.
• Leaky Black made two of the defensive plays of the game, scored nine points and grabbed 10 rebounds. It was his sixth career game with 10 or more rebounds. The nine points are the most since he scored 10 vs. Alabama, a game in which he sprained his ankle that affected him the next several games. His field goal in the lane with 1:45 to play tonight gave UNC a 75-71lead.
• Carolina shot 53.8% from the floor in the second half, the seventh time this season and fourth time in the last five games the Tar Heels shot 50% or higher in the second half.
• Carolina shot 50.0% from the floor for the game, the third time this season UNC shot 50% for a game. The Tar Heels shot 60.3% vs. Charleston and 53.4% vs. Portland.
• The Tar Heels were 15 for 27 from the free throw line, a season-low percentage of .556. (previous was .615 vs. Portland).
• Carolina had 19 fastbreak points, most since it had a season-high 24 in the four-OT loss to Alabama.

Series vs. Michigan
• Carolina has beaten the Wolverines two games in a row and leads the series, 6-4.

Next Game: December 30 at Pittsburgh (Noon, ACC Network).

Hopefully going forward we get a game there each season. It’s essentially DES Center Charlotte without the band or student section. Actually probably more of a pro UNC arena since we arent required to give a section to the visiting team. The atmosphere last night had the feel of an ACC tournament game and for us Charlotte residents it’s a much easier night than having the 2 hour drive to Chapel Hill there and back especially on a week night. I’m sure the players love playing in an NBA arena as well

N/M don't waste your time here, go to Steats thread, it's easier to follow.

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Today is a huge day for North Carolina Tar Heel Football as it’s National Signing Day. Players can start sending in their signed national letter of intent to the school of their choice at 7:00 am this morning.

The Tar Heels currently have nineteen committed prospects and all are expected to sign today.

Coach Mack Brown will have a National Signing Day press conference at noon today. THI will have full coverage.

We will add each player on this thread as their NLI comes in.

Andrew or Deanna did y’all watch the WKU game the QB coach and assistant OC his last name is Arbuckle. Did u see how he passed the ball around. Threw for 497 yds 36/55 and 1 int Had 3 Rbs who rand for 65,63,60 yds respectful. And he’s in his 20’s. Did y’all watch the game or Do u know who I’m talking about Maybe next time we can give this guy a look.
Btw looking fwd to see what our new coaches will do. Hopefully good things a coming
God Bless and Merry Christmas

Brandon and I are here on press row and Kevin is on the baseline shooting.

Big game for the Heels to stack quality wins and take a step forward.

Let's go!