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20% Tax on All goods From Mexico

OP is dead wrong as usual. We are building 5 natural gas pipelines to Mexico and most of their energy source will be coming from the US. They will pay surtax for this to pay for wall and will have no choice. The Trump admin will not tell them or us this now because that would be stupid. Mexico is paying for this wall. end of story.

If true thats freaking hilarious. Props to trump i have to admit
 
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I wouldn't be a fan if that's how it shakes out. It'd make more sense to put a 20% tariff on goods sold to Mexico - so that they'd be the ones paying for the wall. Not sure why that isn't the plan.

Again - snipers are cheaper and more effective than a wall.

word up...i'm not for it, but if this pipe dream were to become a reality, this would be the flavor of ice cream i'd choose.
 
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If true thats freaking hilarious. Props to trump i have to admit
All I know is the pipelines have been being built for months already, Mexico energy infrastructure is a mess, we will be their supplier. Too easy to not set up for wall payment.
 
I like Dos Equis amber if it is draft. Besides that I'm with you. Corona is skunky. Tecate and Modelo are bad. Those are all I've tried.

dude, what?

modelo is pretty solid, imo...the rest i agree with you...but it's beer, just like ice cream.
 
Does that mean we'll have to pay more to go here?

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I spent quite a bit of time in Berlin in the early 70's. Nothing good comes from a wall, nothing....
Apples and oranges....that wall was built to keep people in....this wall is built to keep people out!!! Big difference!
 
Some of you that don't want the wall why not cross the border where there is none? I hear the Mexican hospitality is great.
Some of us aren't living in fear and could find much more effective ways of keeping the things out than a stupid wall. Believe me, if we could round up the right wing nuts and Wall them in, I might fork out some big bucks to support that. Especially if they could be kept quiet too.
 
Sniping people as they cross isn't a viable option. 1 picture of a child or woman dead from US gunfire would be all that would take.

Many have opposed this wall. But I don't see many viable options for keeping illegals out. If you don't like Trump, then you are untitled to your opinion. But doing nothing cost the US more money than what the cost of the wall would be.
I work in a profession where illegals have killed American businesses. Not counting the burden they put on social services like local health departments and schools. So something has to be done. And just making them citizens isn't the answer. That's buying votes IMO.
You may be surprised at how many US dollars heads over the borders to the families over there. Immigration is not a right, it's a privilege. Allowing them to flood our country unaccounted for is an insult to EVERYONE who did it the right way. At least Trump has a plan. Not a popular one, but a plan none the less.
 
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Some of us aren't living in fear and could find much more effective ways of keeping the things out than a stupid wall. Believe me, if we could round up the right wing nuts and Wall them in, I might fork out some big bucks to support that. Especially if they could be kept quiet too.
Okay... that poast needs work. Try that again!
 
Some of us aren't living in fear and could find much more effective ways of keeping the things out than a stupid wall. Believe me, if we could round up the right wing nuts and Wall them in, I might fork out some big bucks to support that. Especially if they could be kept quiet too.
Okay... that poast needs work. Try that again!
Ummm no. You know exactly how I feel about the right wing extremists. They are the reason our country has this division. They don't want to move forward. They want everyone to be and think just like them and their old, worn out ways.

Of course, I wouldn't literally Wall them up but I was just making a point of showing how utterly ridiculous they think. Just because people aren't doing the things YOU think they should do, doesn't mean you build a damn wall.
 
Ummm no. You know exactly how I feel about the right wing extremists. They are the reason our country has this division. They don't want to move forward. They want everyone to be and think just like them and their old, worn out ways.

Of course, I wouldn't literally Wall them up but I was just making a point of showing how utterly ridiculous they think. Just because people aren't doing the things YOU think they should do, doesn't mean you build a damn wall.
When you cross into Mexico apply for aid. They will set you right up.
 
Ummm no. You know exactly how I feel about the right wing extremists. They are the reason our country has this division. They don't want to move forward. They want everyone to be and think just like them and their old, worn out ways.

Of course, I wouldn't literally Wall them up but I was just making a point of showing how utterly ridiculous they think. Just because people aren't doing the things YOU think they should do, doesn't mean you build a damn wall.

You blame division on the right wing? It's both parties extremes. People who are near the center typically want things to stay within the realm of common sense. Given some of the leftist spew I read in your post, lets me know you are just as much of the problem as the ones you attack. Common ground can only be reached if one side caves to the other. It's morons who run this country. We finally have a president who isn't sold out to one side or the other. So I figure he will step on everyone's toes before it's all said and done.


And your post prior to that appears you were calling Mexicans things,. Doof?!!!!
 
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Ummm no. You know exactly how I feel about the right wing extremists. They are the reason our country has this division. They don't want to move forward. They want everyone to be and think just like them and their old, worn out ways.

Of course, I wouldn't literally Wall them up but I was just making a point of showing how utterly ridiculous they think. Just because people aren't doing the things YOU think they should do, doesn't mean you build a damn wall.

You blame division on the right wing? It's both parties extremes. People who are near the center typically want things to stay within the realm of common sense. Given some of the leftist spew I read in your post, lets me know you are just as much of the problem as the ones you attack. Common ground can only be reached if one side caves to the other. It's morons who run this country. We finally have a president who isn't sold out to one side or the other. So I figure he will step on everyone's toes before it's all said and done.


And your post prior to that appears you were calling Mexicans things,. Doof?!!!!

We finally have a President who isn't sold out to one side????? Hahahaha sadly, I have no doubt that you truly believe that.

I admit I lean more to the left. The only things I lean to the right on are guns and abortion but not enough to vote their way.

You're right though the extremes go both ways. I just have a harder time with the side that wants to control people and tell us what morals we should all have. That's how Hitler started. He wanted to control everyone and he decided who was worthy of life and who wasn't. Study true freedom and then chart things and see how free we are and how free we aren't. Later dudes.
 
You're right though the extremes go both ways. I just have a harder time with the side that wants to control people and tell us what morals we should all have. That's how Hitler started. He wanted to control everyone and he decided who was worthy of life and who wasn't. Study true freedom and then chart things and see how free we are and how free we aren't. Later dudes.

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So the libs telling us we have to accept homosexual marriage and unified gender restrooms isn't a for of control? And God help if we say anything about a black person these days. Or being forced into insurance when many can't afford it in the first place. All the while telling everyone it's not a tax. But yet you get penalized via the IRS for not complying. And to the issue at hand. Let's just give these poor people their much deserved citizenship. That takes away the illegal immigration issue for the left. All the while buying a vote to keep those evil right wingers out of the picture.
 
This is a chess match, and Mexico doesn't have many pieces left on the board.

As one poaster pointed out, regarding Corona...if they are facing the potential of going out of business as a result of this, don't you think they would entertain opening an American plant, which further creates jobs in this country?

Sometimes, I am amazed at how many people can't see the forest for the trees.
 
Ummm no. You know exactly how I feel about the right wing extremists. They are the reason our country has this division. .

LOL. Riiiight.

There's a lot of bad poasts in this thread. Start with strum. He's nitpicking Hark's comment about whether avocados and cocaine come from Mexico instead of seeing the larger point - we don't need much of shit from Mexico. Not to mention, he's wrong.
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/09/22/how_mexico_is_reinventing_the_cocaine_business.html

Secondly, leaving Pacifico and Sol out of any discussion on Mexican beer is criminal. They're the two best.
 
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I admit I lean more to the left. The only things I lean to the right on are guns and abortion but not enough to vote their way.

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I used to not like democrats just from a policy standpoint. But now I dislike them from a policy standpoint and from a character standpoint. How the left has completely changed the rules on debating issues has pissed me off. They can't just disagree with the other side anymore. Now, they go straight into character assassination with those who disagree with them on social issues.
 
You're right though the extremes go both ways. I just have a harder time with the side that wants to control people and tell us what morals we should all have. That's how Hitler started. He wanted to control everyone and he decided who was worthy of life and who wasn't. Study true freedom and then chart things and see how free we are and how free we aren't. Later dudes.
Comparisons to Hitler are intellectually lazy, show no understanding of history and is borderline disrespectful of all of his victims and the people who fought against him.
 
Comparisons to Hitler are intellectually lazy, show no understanding of history and is borderline disrespectful of all of his victims and the people who fought against him.

It's the new Left. It's what they do now. They don't want to actually debate an issue so they throw the most damning insult they can think of and hope that it sticks.
 
So the libs telling us we have to accept homosexual marriage and unified gender restrooms isn't a for of control? And God help if we say anything about a black person these days.
You don't have to marry anyone you don't want to marry. No one is forcing you to be gay. They're simply making it legal for people who are gay to marry, and not be discriminated because of it. It's called enabling liberty.

And, you're free to malign black people verbally. Just don't be surprised when more people call you a racist after you say it.

Thanks for writing all that. It makes you easier to be identified. Let your true colors shine bright.
 
Comparisons to Hitler are intellectually lazy, show no understanding of history and is borderline disrespectful of all of his victims and the people who fought against him.
Sometimes. Then, there are times when they're absolutely helpful in describing the level of distrust and potentially dangerous a situation seems to a person.
 
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