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Sometimes. Then, there are times when they're absolutely helpful in describing the level of distrust and potentially dangerous a situation seems to a person.

Sure. But don't be surprised when others call you an idiot for saying it.

Thanks for writing all that. It makes you easier to be identified. Let your true colors shine bright.
 
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Sure. But don't be surprised when others call you an idiot for saying it.

Thanks for writing all that. It makes you easier to be identified. Let your true colors shine bright.
I can't help if you're an idiot and can't tell the difference.
 
Damn. Some of you on this board are idiots.

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Only thing I'm gonna add to this thread, in reference to a poast by @Grayhead ...

Republicans (the party and the voters) need to STOP fixating on gay marriage and abortion as key issues. Stop. It's wrecking the party and fracturing it. It leads to woefully bad candidates like Mike Huckabee getting some votes in early primaries.

If abortion and gay marriage offends your Christian/moral beliefs, the way to handle this is to NOT get an abortion and NOT to enter into a same-sex marriage and to persuade all your friends and loved ones to also not do those things.

But please don't let it be the most important thing you look for in a candidate.
 
Maybe they're making the mistake of mimicking the Right. You stepped in a big, steaming pile of hypocrisy with that nonsense.

They don't see it and when someone tries to "act" (or react) as they do, they cannot stand it. They cannot see that they are doing the VERY thing they hate about the other side. Sometimes I just do it on here for kicks because I know I am being extreme just as they are and I want to see just how hypocritical they can be.

Personally, I would NEVER want to put a wall around anyone or anything. I would not want to hush up those who disagree with me either. Freedom is being able to do things freely without having to conform to another's belief. We are all free to believe as we want to and do as we want, providing we are not harming others.

We are free to marry who we want to and who we choose to love. A book written by many MEN, thousands of years ago does not dictate HOW we are to love. It just says we ARE TO love each other. They tend to get all that mixed up. They pick out certain things, mostly sexual things, and try to rip people apart over it, when they do the very things that the book says not to do to begin with, divorce, adultery, lust, etc. I suppose pointing out another's "sins" will make one think they are better off because they're sins are less than or something. It's a crazy belief.

When we live in a country founded on freedom of choices and freedom of what we believe, some may not believe the same as another group of people but if it is not causing you personal harm, they can do as they please.
 
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dude, what?

modelo is pretty solid, imo...the rest i agree with you...but it's beer, just like ice cream.

It has been a long time (probably over 10 years) since I've had it so maybe I'm wrong on Modelo.
 
I used to not like democrats just from a policy standpoint. But now I dislike them from a policy standpoint and from a character standpoint. How the left has completely changed the rules on debating issues has pissed me off. They can't just disagree with the other side anymore. Now, they go straight into character assassination with those who disagree with them on social issues.

I don't disagree but if that is the case you should dislike Republicans as well. I can't stand the ones on either side who act this way. However, I get along just fine with the ones who don't. Neither side can figure out how to disagree in a way that is productive at all so we have become more divided.
 
Only thing I'm gonna add to this thread, in reference to a poast by @Grayhead ...

Republicans (the party and the voters) need to STOP fixating on gay marriage and abortion as key issues. Stop. It's wrecking the party and fracturing it. It leads to woefully bad candidates like Mike Huckabee getting some votes in early primaries.
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I wouldn't vote for Huckabee but I like him. I think he's thoughtful.
 
They don't see it and when someone tries to "act" (or react) as they do, they cannot stand it. They cannot see that they are doing the VERY thing they hate about the other side. Sometimes I just do it on here for kicks because I know I am being extreme just as they are and I want to see just how hypocritical they can be.

Personally, I would NEVER want to put a wall around anyone or anything. I would not want to hush up those who disagree with me either. Freedom is being able to do things freely without having to conform to another's belief. We are all free to believe as we want to and do as we want, providing we are not harming others.

We are free to marry who we want to and who we choose to love. A book written by many MEN, thousands of years ago does not dictate HOW we are to love. It just says we ARE TO love each other. They tend to get all that mixed up. They pick out certain things, mostly sexual things, and try to rip people apart over it, when they do the very things that the book says not to do to begin with, divorce, adultery, lust, etc. I suppose pointing out another's "sins" will make one think they are better off because they're sins are less than or something. It's a crazy belief.

When we live in a country founded on freedom of choices and freedom of what we believe, some may not believe the same as another group of people but if it is not causing you personal harm, they can do as they please.
You preached it there, sister. Excellent job.
 
They don't see it and when someone tries to "act" (or react) as they do, they cannot stand it. They cannot see that they are doing the VERY thing they hate about the other side. Sometimes I just do it on here for kicks because I know I am being extreme just as they are and I want to see just how hypocritical they can be.

Personally, I would NEVER want to put a wall around anyone or anything. I would not want to hush up those who disagree with me either. Freedom is being able to do things freely without having to conform to another's belief. We are all free to believe as we want to and do as we want, providing we are not harming others.

We are free to marry who we want to and who we choose to love. A book written by many MEN, thousands of years ago does not dictate HOW we are to love. It just says we ARE TO love each other. They tend to get all that mixed up. They pick out certain things, mostly sexual things, and try to rip people apart over it, when they do the very things that the book says not to do to begin with, divorce, adultery, lust, etc. I suppose pointing out another's "sins" will make one think they are better off because they're sins are less than or something. It's a crazy belief.

When we live in a country founded on freedom of choices and freedom of what we believe, some may not believe the same as another group of people but if it is not causing you personal harm, they can do as they please.
I really don't give a damn what 2 consenting adults do in or out of the bedroom. Get an abortion before 12 weeks. But women, people of color or the LGTB don't deserve anymore rights than anyone else. My daughter said it best last night talking about women not getting equal pay. She "I wonder if these idiots ever considered maybe they are not as qualified as the other person."
 
They don't see it and when someone tries to "act" (or react) as they do, they cannot stand it. They cannot see that they are doing the VERY thing they hate about the other side. Sometimes I just do it on here for kicks because I know I am being extreme just as they are and I want to see just how hypocritical they can be.

Personally, I would NEVER want to put a wall around anyone or anything. I would not want to hush up those who disagree with me either. Freedom is being able to do things freely without having to conform to another's belief. We are all free to believe as we want to and do as we want, providing we are not harming others.

We are free to marry who we want to and who we choose to love. A book written by many MEN, thousands of years ago does not dictate HOW we are to love. It just says we ARE TO love each other. They tend to get all that mixed up. They pick out certain things, mostly sexual things, and try to rip people apart over it, when they do the very things that the book says not to do to begin with, divorce, adultery, lust, etc. I suppose pointing out another's "sins" will make one think they are better off because they're sins are less than or something. It's a crazy belief.

When we live in a country founded on freedom of choices and freedom of what we believe, some may not believe the same as another group of people but if it is not causing you personal harm, they can do as they please.


I agree with a lot of that. But that's not how the left generally sees things. The left doesn't want me just to be ok with their social policies. They want me to emphatically celebrate them. And when we fail to do so, we're bad people. That's what I'm talking about and even pundits on the left have acknowledged that they've done this. So don't act like the left is following the right because that's simply not true....at all.
 
I don't disagree but if that is the case you should dislike Republicans as well. I can't stand the ones on either side who act this way. However, I get along just fine with the ones who don't. Neither side can figure out how to disagree in a way that is productive at all so we have become more divided.
Our last president started this division. You remember his statement, "Time for the republicans to go to the back of the bus"? His vilification of police officers before he knew the facts? He started the fire and fanned the flames.
 
I don't disagree but if that is the case you should dislike Republicans as well. I can't stand the ones on either side who act this way. However, I get along just fine with the ones who don't. Neither side can figure out how to disagree in a way that is productive at all so we have become more divided.

I don't "like" Republicans. I trust them more but I don't necessarily like anyone in politics. But I also disagree that the right goes into character assassination when debating issues. Or at least, it hasn't become page 1 of their playbook like it has with the left. No way.
 
I really don't give a damn what 2 consenting adults do in or out of the bedroom. Get an abortion before 12 weeks. But women, people of color or the LGTB don't deserve anymore rights than anyone else. My daughter said it best last night talking about women not getting equal pay. She "I wonder if these idiots ever considered maybe they are not as qualified as the other person."
IF they ARE doing the same job and are equally QUALIFIED, yet are not paid the same, THAT is when the problem occurs. Do you get that???? I personally, have not had to deal with it but I know others that have. It does happen. NO ONE is asking for MORE rights just to have the SAME rights. Do you understand that?????? I don't think you do.
 
Our last president started this division. You remember his statement, "Time for the republicans to go to the back of the bus"? His vilification of police officers before he knew the facts? He started the fire and fanned the flames.

100% accurate. In every 50/50 situation, he choose to go against "white", or against "traditional" or against "authority". And every time, he empowered many others to do the same. He didn't even try to dress it up either.
 
In an attempt to get this thread back on track.......

Someone against the wall please explain to me why protecting/securing our border is a bad thing? TIA.
 
Nope. It's us. Everyone here - even the most level headed ones of us like Julez, prlyles and RH - have pointed out to her how irrational she is. Yet we're all wrong and she's totally grounded.
Never said that. I said you all are a bit closeminded. Stay that way though. I don't have to deal with you personally, so we all have that going for us. :)
 
In an attempt to get this thread back on track.......

Someone against the wall please explain to me why protecting/securing our border is a bad thing? TIA.

Because illegal drugs pouring into our country is a good thing. Oh wait...
 
Because illegal drugs pouring into our country is a good thing. Oh wait...
even IF a wall would keep the drugs out, do you think it would end the drug war over here? Do you think Americans would suddenly start making/growing and selling them here???? You really believe drugs would be in control because of a wall?
 
It is the WAY they want to do it. It will be ineffective. A wall will not work to keep the drugs out, period.

Why? You keep saying that but you're providing nothing else. You're not providing any reasoning as to why a wall won't work. And you're not providing any other options. Are you just being disagreeable or what. C'mon, what do you have?
 
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