Can someone slide those trophies over? Need to make room for another one.
2017-2018 OOTB other UNC sports thread
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Not well this year. We finished 7-7 on the year but started off 6-0 before nosediving. 4 of our losses were by one goal.
That sucks. Has the ACC tournament started? Maybe we can go on a run like last year.
I'm here to retract my earlier statement! What a great weekend. We knocked Moo, a top 3 team nationally, into 2nd place in the Atlantic Division. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
http://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=baseball
ACC tournament over. We didn't qualify. Season is over.
Women's lacrosse just won ACC tourney though.
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Neutral site wins are more impressive. The DBAP win against them is what we should be judged on.
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Neutral site wins are more impressive. The DBAP win against them is what we should be judged on.
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Diamond Heels take care of Asheville 11-5. That’s 18 dubs in the last 21 games. Now a week off for exams.
So that baseball thread on PP somehow morphed into a discussion on football records and I found this gem. I love it when they eat their own.
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Pacfanweb said... (original post)
Two: The earlier period: Most of the games were played in Chapel Hill. They had a full scholarship team early on, while we were more of a club team or even a glorified intramural team in the beginning. Sometimes we only played a game or two in a season. We started playing in 1892 and didn't have our first on-campus game until 1907.
We played plenty of home games before 1907. The games were held in Pullen Park.
1892: 1 game played, home
1893: 2 games, both home
1894: 2 games, 1 home 1 away
1895: 4 games, 2 home 1 away 1 neutral (atlanta)
1896: 5 games, at least 1 home, no record of the others
1897: 3 games, 2 home 1 away
etc.
I've never found any confirmation of when we started offering scholarships or when UNC started offering scholarships. The only speculation I've ever seen on the topic has been on this message board.
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
Riddick wasn't played in until 1933. Hell, UNC had Kenan before that.
We started playing games in Riddick in 1906, but it was under a different name. It was renamed to Riddick in 1933.
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
We didn't play UNC until 1894. We only played 2 games that year. Both against UNC, (and both in Chapel Hill, IIRC) 8 days apart. And we lost both of them. But somebody still counts that early crap in the record books.
1 was home, 1 was away.
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
UNC played 9 games that year. They were a full football program and we were not. It's like if we started playing Wake Tech's intramural team right now and beat the crap out of them and later on they became a university and started fielding real Division 1 teams, but we still held those wins over their very first scrubs over their heads.
UNC started playing in 1888 and ramped up to a full schedule much quicker than we did.
1888: UNC 2 games, NCSU dne
1889: UNC 4 games, NCSU dne
1890: no games either team
1891: UNC 2 games, NCSU dne
1892: UNC 6 games, NCSU 1 game
1893: UNC 7 games, NCSU 2 games
1894: UNC 9 games, NCSU 2 games
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
Further, (and I'm going straight off memory here) prior to Carter Stadium opening in 1966, I believe I remember seeing that we played in Chapel Hill nearly every year going back 20 or more years. HUGE advantage for them.
From 1943-1964 we played in Chapel Hill 17 times and in Raleigh 1 time. We were 6-12 in that streak (the home game was a loss). This includes a 9 game losing streak from 1943-1955 (8 aways followed by 1 home). From 1956-1964 we were 6-3, all away games.
To be a total devil's advocate, we had a nice home streak from 1901-1928 with 12 home games vs 2 away games. We went 3-6-4 in that time frame.
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
So the record is as it stands right now....but you have to look at the whole picture.
And despite the huge advantage of playing most of the games at home and the cheating, there is only a 2 game difference in our records since the ACC was formed.
In the ACC era (1953-present) we have a 30-35 record. Home record of 11-16 (27 games) (11-14 in Carter Finley). Away record of 19-17 (36 games). Neutral record of 0-2.
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
Also, and I think Lumber can pinpoint this, I think that we were not a full scholarship program until either right before the ACC or when it was formed, and UNC was prior.
I'd love to see actual documentation of this.
End result: Yea, big bad UNC was beating up on the poor little Farmers in the pre-ACC era. 5-31-6 pre-ACC, 30-35 post-ACC. The list of excuses of why they beat us a lot back then is weak. It didn't matter if we had an on-campus stadium or not. It didn't matter if we played at home or not. They were just a better team for 50 years. Oh well. If UNC fans want to hang their hats on that record, that's their own problem. Tip your cap to them, say "congrats, your great-grandpa did a good job in the leather helmet days, whoop-de-freakin-doo" without resorting to a laundry list of excuses.
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Pacfanweb said... (original post)
Two: The earlier period: Most of the games were played in Chapel Hill. They had a full scholarship team early on, while we were more of a club team or even a glorified intramural team in the beginning. Sometimes we only played a game or two in a season. We started playing in 1892 and didn't have our first on-campus game until 1907.
We played plenty of home games before 1907. The games were held in Pullen Park.
1892: 1 game played, home
1893: 2 games, both home
1894: 2 games, 1 home 1 away
1895: 4 games, 2 home 1 away 1 neutral (atlanta)
1896: 5 games, at least 1 home, no record of the others
1897: 3 games, 2 home 1 away
etc.
I've never found any confirmation of when we started offering scholarships or when UNC started offering scholarships. The only speculation I've ever seen on the topic has been on this message board.
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
Riddick wasn't played in until 1933. Hell, UNC had Kenan before that.
We started playing games in Riddick in 1906, but it was under a different name. It was renamed to Riddick in 1933.
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
We didn't play UNC until 1894. We only played 2 games that year. Both against UNC, (and both in Chapel Hill, IIRC) 8 days apart. And we lost both of them. But somebody still counts that early crap in the record books.
1 was home, 1 was away.
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
UNC played 9 games that year. They were a full football program and we were not. It's like if we started playing Wake Tech's intramural team right now and beat the crap out of them and later on they became a university and started fielding real Division 1 teams, but we still held those wins over their very first scrubs over their heads.
UNC started playing in 1888 and ramped up to a full schedule much quicker than we did.
1888: UNC 2 games, NCSU dne
1889: UNC 4 games, NCSU dne
1890: no games either team
1891: UNC 2 games, NCSU dne
1892: UNC 6 games, NCSU 1 game
1893: UNC 7 games, NCSU 2 games
1894: UNC 9 games, NCSU 2 games
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
Further, (and I'm going straight off memory here) prior to Carter Stadium opening in 1966, I believe I remember seeing that we played in Chapel Hill nearly every year going back 20 or more years. HUGE advantage for them.
From 1943-1964 we played in Chapel Hill 17 times and in Raleigh 1 time. We were 6-12 in that streak (the home game was a loss). This includes a 9 game losing streak from 1943-1955 (8 aways followed by 1 home). From 1956-1964 we were 6-3, all away games.
To be a total devil's advocate, we had a nice home streak from 1901-1928 with 12 home games vs 2 away games. We went 3-6-4 in that time frame.
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
So the record is as it stands right now....but you have to look at the whole picture.
And despite the huge advantage of playing most of the games at home and the cheating, there is only a 2 game difference in our records since the ACC was formed.
In the ACC era (1953-present) we have a 30-35 record. Home record of 11-16 (27 games) (11-14 in Carter Finley). Away record of 19-17 (36 games). Neutral record of 0-2.
Pacfanweb said... (original post)
Also, and I think Lumber can pinpoint this, I think that we were not a full scholarship program until either right before the ACC or when it was formed, and UNC was prior.
I'd love to see actual documentation of this.
End result: Yea, big bad UNC was beating up on the poor little Farmers in the pre-ACC era. 5-31-6 pre-ACC, 30-35 post-ACC. The list of excuses of why they beat us a lot back then is weak. It didn't matter if we had an on-campus stadium or not. It didn't matter if we played at home or not. They were just a better team for 50 years. Oh well. If UNC fans want to hang their hats on that record, that's their own problem. Tip your cap to them, say "congrats, your great-grandpa did a good job in the leather helmet days, whoop-de-freakin-doo" without resorting to a laundry list of excuses.
^ Lumberpack, who they refer to in one of their poasts, is their version of woadblue. He tells these super-detailed fascinating stories about years gone by in ACC/Moo athletics, and you never know to what degree he's right and what degree he's full of shit.
-Women's tennis gets the #2 overall seed in the NCAA tournament. First match is 5/12.
-Men's tennis gets the #7 overall seed in the NCAA tournament. First match is 5/12.
-Marie McCool (WLAX) was named ACC midfielder of the year and Jamie Ortega won ACC freshman of the year
-Men's tennis gets the #7 overall seed in the NCAA tournament. First match is 5/12.
-Marie McCool (WLAX) was named ACC midfielder of the year and Jamie Ortega won ACC freshman of the year
Fox said on his radio show that it is possible he could be back, but wouldn't say for sure.
Damn. Like “be back” as in the entire season? WTF did this kid do. That’s a big dammit.
I'm assuming he meant this season. I didn't listen to the show. Just read about it.
I think we can get there without him. We're obviously a better team with him, but we have the talent to get there without him.
UNC earning some honors this week.
Women's Softball
Taylor Wike and Brittany Pickett were named first team all-ACC and Wike also won ACC defensive player of the year. Destiny DeBerry and Kiani Ramsey were selected to the second team.
North Carolina Sports HOF
Three former Heels made it in. Donna Andrews (women's golf), Scott Bankhead (baseball) and Laura DuPont (women's basketball and tennis).
Women's Professional Lacrosse League
Marie McCool was the #2 pick in the inaugural draft.
Women's Softball
Taylor Wike and Brittany Pickett were named first team all-ACC and Wike also won ACC defensive player of the year. Destiny DeBerry and Kiani Ramsey were selected to the second team.
North Carolina Sports HOF
Three former Heels made it in. Donna Andrews (women's golf), Scott Bankhead (baseball) and Laura DuPont (women's basketball and tennis).
Women's Professional Lacrosse League
Marie McCool was the #2 pick in the inaugural draft.
Color me skeptical on a women’s professional lacrosse league making it? No offense, but who’s paying to go watch that?
No one. But they'll keep trying these women's sports leagues, having them fail, then rebooting them until kingdom come.
Depends on how hot the girls are and how short the uniforms are. McCool is a would.
Big series for the diamond heels against #9 duke starting today. Two wins clinch the coastal. Three wins would be nice though. Clemson is one game up in the win column (19-8) with one ACC series left. We have two left, duke and VT.
I've been doing my part and not watching just for the record. They typically win when I don't watch and lose when I do.
Diamond heels get the win today. We are two up in the win column in the coastal and tied with Clemson for the overall standings. It's going to come down to the last weekend. Heels playing VT at home, duke playing GT on the road and Clemson playing Pitt on the road. All three are sub .500 in the ACC.
We're actually only up 1.5 games on dook because they had a game with FSU cancelled earlier this season. Really hope that doesn't bite us in the butt here down the stretch. We need to take care of business against VT.
Essentially. If we go 1-2, we'll need dook to lose a game. Or if we go 0-3, we'll need dook to lose 2 games.
