2024 Transfer Portal Thread
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I was prepared to be done if we had gotten Omoruyi. But I'm sort of thinking if we have to settle at the 5, we probably need a 4/3 or 3/4 to make sure we're solid everywhere else.
Does anyone else have that same feeling?
Does anyone else have that same feeling?
I mean, Hubert Davis has made it clear he wanted to get replacements for Bacot and Ingram from the portal. So I don't think Omoruyi was going to be the end of our recruiting, even had he committed to us.
I am kind of enjoying seeing certain IC writers admitting they have no idea where UNC turns from here. They gassed people up about all these top portal options we were after. Now they admit we're in the "worst case" situation where the best we can hope for is finding a center to platoon with Washington.
LOL I listened to the YouTube today….They know they shat the bed on this….Truth be told THI is better with basketball…David and AJ do a super job….Now football old Don is hard to beat on IC…I do enjoy both sites but yea they sound like they lost it all at the poker table….
It’s not hard , we can’t grab any and everybody. Right fit , right pieces .. I’m sure the coaches got a backup plan waiting after these misses.
UNC got Nil money. Bc we missed on players don’t mean we don’t got it.
Exactly! I’m sure he has a backup plan in for getting cliff or aidoo . It will play out well. UNC4L!
We missed on all our top choices. 5 of the 6 didn't even bother to visit UNC. We definitely have a NIL problem.
You say that but UNC has a starting spot at the 5….Yet we have missed on all of them…Outside looking in we were outbid…
Maybe we should hire Jerry Jones from the cowboys to see if he can help .. he's got the $$$$$
He's a primary contributor to Arkansas' NIL fund. Probably played a pretty large role in getting commitments from Aidoo and Thiero, who we couldn't even convince to visit.
Side note, the fact we couldn't get Durham native Jonas Aidoo to even visit... sigh.
Still don’t mean Nil. New age college bball players not only going to blue blood schools. Maybe its a better fit on getting to the league somewhere, or maybe Hubert felt player wasn’t worth what they were asking. UNC just not throwing there money around to every player. We don’t know what conversation we’re like. First thing fans yelling Nil issue but you forgot what players were all on the commercials during the ncaa tourney.
I have heard its NIL and I have also heard its Hubert wanting guys that want to play for Carolina.. At some point you have to forget about who wants to play for Carolina and just pay up or else you are going to be left with nothing!
I hope some investigative journalists (good ones) do a deep dive into how NIL is working at various schools (including UNC). With real numbers, and sources of the money, how the money is handled, how directly the schools and coaches are involved, and all that.
I've always thought that players should receive a share of the profits received by the schools, game makers, and so on, but the way NIL has turned into the wild west is way beyond what I was imagining.
Imagine you are rich. You decide to give $10 million a year in NIL money to, say, Monmouth to "hire" top players.
Are you allowed to do that? Do you have to "launder" it some way? Maybe set up a "corporation"?
What do you think King Rice could do with a steady $10 million/yr to entice players?
Are you allowed to do that? Do you have to "launder" it some way? Maybe set up a "corporation"?
What do you think King Rice could do with a steady $10 million/yr to entice players?
That’s the crux of the NIL issue. Most seem willing to do so just to be competitive. That’s very sad to this Heels fan.
Can you point out your posts from this past season where you expressed sadness over Bacot, Davis, Ingram, Ryan, and Cadeau being paid handsomely to play for UNC? Or were you too busy enjoying the sweep of dook, the ACC regular season championship, and the 1 seed in the NCAA tournament?
That wasn't addressed to me, but I share @Archer2's sadness.
No, I didn't bitch about our guys getting their beaks wet. Good for them.
BUT . . . we are fans. Some of us have been fans for half a century! We like and expect our players to be fans, too. We want to watch them play. We expect them to want to play FOR Carolina.
There's a symmetry there: fan loyalty=player loyalty.
Money seems to be messing that up.
OTOH . . . just because players come here for the money, doesn't mean they can't become true members of the family. I'd love to hear the inner thoughts of Ingram, Ryan and our other transfers over the years. I'd bet most of them came to love Carolina even if it was just transactional at first. I can think of a few who maybe didn't, but most probably did.
Looks like our next option is going to be to try and lure Onyenso out of the draft. He was invited to the G League combine which starts on the 11th. If he isn't one of the 6 guys who gets promoted to the NBA combine, that would hopefully result in him pulling out of the draft.
He's physical and an elite shotblocker, but extremely raw on offense. He averaged about 3 points per game. Yet he'll still probably want a high NIL offer.
He's physical and an elite shotblocker, but extremely raw on offense. He averaged about 3 points per game. Yet he'll still probably want a high NIL offer.
No outside force can force you to compromise your character! I am a fan of UNC since birth and will be one for life! The only thing that could possibly turn me off is if our beloved U becomes commonplace and simply follows the crowd! My earliest memories of UNC and the sainted DES include him standing up for beliefs that were not popular then or now! If UNC simply does what everyone else does, they are not special so I am extremely happy we don't just out bid folks! Systems and rules will change but Right Vs Wrong is seldom hard to discern! I support Family and the Carolina Way! I will NEVER condone breaking even the spirit of the law since that is a slippery slope! Back in the day we passed on peeps who wanted a bag so I am fine with passing on those who ONLY want to talk money!
If you care to look at my post history, I made my opinion of NIL patently clear. It was destined to be a clusterfork from day one if not implemented with a clear set of constraints. Since it was being implemented by the No Clue About Anything, I had zero confidence that it would. My stance hasn't changed. And you can't put the genie back in the bottle. The sport has irrevocably changed and IMO, not for the better. But I'm an old fart so what I think doesn't matter.
Launder. You are allowed to give money to players (thru a contract for example) but you can't directly link it to Monmouth. And there has to be a legit action they're doing to receive the money involving their Name, Image or Likeness. The action could be advertisements, social media posts, charity-related stuff, appearances, camps & clinics, even signing autographs is legit. So donors could be in the market, or legit businesses that want some good advertising could be in the market.
The funny thing about not being able to tie the payments to attending a university is that there are university-specific collectives (marketplaces for pooling donor money and opportunties), AND the university itself has oversight over NIL agreements, like UNC won't let you have an NIL contract with alchohol, drugs or porn... Ridiculous.
The loopholes are crazy too cuz there is so much gray area. I don't think there rules on specifics of the contracts (like duration or frequency of pay, etc). Part of the contract can include being present at "near-campus" things, places, events on a regular basis... this trick makes it so that Armando doesn't take it his money and move across the country to a different school without having to pay to fly back regularly.
Could I pay a few million $ to Harrison Ingram to sign autographs at my birthday party if he skips NBA and walks by the entrance to Monmouth campus x days per month? I'm not sure if it is that easy, but it almost sounds like you could.
To add ^ - if that is too tricky, just go thru a monmouth collective who can spin up some "legit" opportunities Ingram can do to earn the $.
Thanks. That was helpful. And more discussion of the workings than I've seen before.
It's interesting stuff. I don't know why it sometimes seems like pulling teeth to learn what's really going on.
Me too, 100% - i don't think you can find nice explanations due to how murky and
You like this NIL nonsense about as much as I do, welcome to the end of college basketball. It is completely amazing to me that I now see UNC fans screaming JUST PAY EM NO MATTER WHAT IT COSTS... That it doesn't matter how they fit in with the UNC culture, that it no longer matters that they want to play for UNC, as long as UNC wins how we have to do it does no longer matter...
A question I have is who, team-wise, is agreeing to the amounts and distributions of the pools of money? The coach can't say "Cliff, 2 million is too much"... but can they say "Cliff the collective will probably think that is too much, check with them" (as he texts the collective managers)?
You can go ahead and throw me in that trash heap that thinks the NIL is a charlie foxtrot too .. at least the way it's structured now. But I do think college athletes should be compensated. It's the all to one and none for all thing that chaps my hide.
For the record, athletes have been getting paid for years with thousands of dollars worth of free education. So those clamoring for NIL weren't saying athletes needed to be paid. They were saying athletes need to be paid more. I disagreed but it is what it is.
Matt Norlander of CBS sports believes 6'10 forward Coleman Hawkins of illinois will withdraw from the draft and lists UNC as a suitor.
