Yes, we have a shot but will never be the high bidder against BYU. Does he want Carolina enough to take less money?
2025 recruiting....
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You want to see what's wrong with college basketball recruiting then follow the Bundalo recruitment. His parents should be absolutely ashamed. Narrows it to 4 schools. Michigan St and UConn basically pull out with other commitments leaving Ohio St and Carolina. Ohio St takes a kid at his position leaving Carolina. What do they do- schedule a visit to pay pal Cal who's never been in the recruitment. Loyalty means absolutely nothing. Education,coaching staff and history mean absolutely nothing. A complete $hit show and the NCAA can take this garbage and shove it where the sun does not shine. I'm out. It's absolutely pathetic and embarrassing. This BS has gotten old real fast.
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Apparently HD didn't mince words to donors last night at dinner in the smith center in regards to NIL and losing recruits. Lets see if it helps...
So Hubert is straight up telling donors that our NIL isn't good enough?
Even after a handful of now-blocked posters on this board made it their life mission to harass me for saying our NIL isn't good enough?
Even after a handful of now-blocked posters on this board made it their life mission to harass me for saying our NIL isn't good enough?
If anyone on this board is a jerk, it’s you.
The facts of what you say matter much less than the fact that you say it repetitively, incessantly, and always in a very negative light. I would challenge you to find something positive you've written about this team or our coach in the last month.
Some guy named Jacob Polacheck, who works for KSR, put in a prediction for Caleb Wilson to Kentucky yesterday on On3. He hasn't missed on a prediction yet and mostly makes predictions on UK basketball and football recruits.
Big Donors are the 1s that move the needle…Not your everyday fan that is willing to give 100 dollars…Problem is those same Big Donors have 27 other sports to help as well…UNC is not going to play this game…I just don’t see it….
Been on the board for 24yrs and this is your 40th post??? Yeah, seems legit.
I think it is very clear that UNC is just not doing a great job of fund raising for NIL. Our fan base tends to take a VERY conservative approach to fund raising, as if stuck in 1980? Look at comments on this board for example, we re all talking in terms of what things used to be rather than how things actually are now. This kid is not worth X amount of money so I am not gonna give my hard earned money to over pay for a kid? Truth is you (me as well) do not like the NIL deal to begin with, we wish it would go away but it will not.
OK, so like something is really strange there, the husker guy is a very familiar screen name, no way he has not posted far more than 40 times, I did see the screen name metric, has to be an error some how. If memory serves, I think he has posted far more on the football side. I don't recall him as posting in a uncalled for manner, thus his comment toward my buddy Archer struck me as VERY strange, just seems out of character for him?
It's a investment.. example pay 4 million to a lottery pick player he signs contract for 25 million a yr or more not counting signing bonus... pays back his 4 million plus extra 3 million then next yr you buy 2 top 5 picks and yr after yr till you eventually buy your starting 5 plus a few bench players
You honestly believe a player signing for $25m per year is kicking back $7m to his college upon signing his first contract? Unless it’s an agreed upon transaction, I don’t think this is realistic.
The problem there is that lottery pick 1 & done super star was not even on your campus a full year, he is not as vested in your school as the kid that used up all 4yrs of eligibility and in doing so built a life long love for UNC. In other words that 1 & done star does not love UNC as much as you do.
But lets say that he gets a $25mil a year contract (I don't think NBA lotto guys, even the over all #1 get that much), between taxes and his agent, he walks away with some where around $10-12 mil and you are expecting him to pony up a 3rd of his income for a school he spent a little over 1 semester at? Cole came back to play in the summer camp scrimmages but what other 1 & D has done that for us?
What I think needs to happen is UNC needs to get far more professional in their NIL fund raising, treat it like politicians raising money (no, not the dirty tricks a certain unnamed presidential candidate or her party is engaged in, laundering foreign money as if it were from domestic contributors, I would prefer China not engage in our NIL LOL). But more having dinners and events like golf outings with 2 gentlemen that I think would make amazing ambassadors for UNC, Roy Williams and the soon to be retired Mack Brown, as well as former players that would like to help, #50 would be all over it! But do these things for your deep pocket boosters.
We have a former player most know as the GOAT that is a BILLIONaire as well as several multi multi millionaires that are former UNC players and yet some how we are under funded? Can only mean our approach is not great, not being clear on where we are and what we need in a way that is personal to those boosters. If that unnamed presidential candidate can raise darn near a BILLION dollars for the worst political campaign in recorded history surely UNC can raise a few million for a program those wealthy boosters love. You simply will never get there selling $100 gift baskets. One thing that many of those wealthy boosters may prefer is to keep their gift private rather than public. Mike for example, I think would prefer any donations be very private so as to not upset other schools he does business with.
No Oz, it is not realistic but give the poster credit, he is trying to think outside of the box and I don't see enough of that with our UNC NIL efforts. But yeah, it is kind of comical to think that a 1 and done star that spent just a tad over a single semester on campus and is maybe 19yrs old is going to give multi millions to that school. I promise ya, the car dealers are first in line (because the agent does not stand in a line), then the bling bling man and then comes the X-wives and baby mommas! LOL
There are 27 players in the NBA making over $40 million per year. A handful making over $50 million per year. The salary cap goes up every year and with it the max contract values. AJ Dybantsa, if he ends up living up to the hype, will probably end up making around $100 million per year as early as the 2032-2033 season.
So you're right that it's an investment. You're just drastically underestimating the contracts NBA players will be making.
I would prefer to leave politics off this board (especially since most of what is spouted online is disinformation at best!), but I agree with the idea that UNC has some big pocket peeps who could step up. Where I differ is the idea that believing UNC should stay true to its ideals is somehow backwards thinking! This idea is dangerous as it implies that if one doesn't follow the crowd, one lacks common sense or at least cannot be successful! UNC seems to be doing just fine even though we aren't getting every 5* mercenary with his hand out. I refuse to worry about this supposed lack until I see a team that isn't in the top 10 and isn't at the top of the ACC and isn't a contender for a Natty! Before NIL, we saw a major decline in the program, but during this unprecedented upheaval of our sport we see a true UNC rebirth!
Keep doing it the right way; stick to your guns; and rub their broken system in their faces.....Go Heels!
Keep doing it the right way; stick to your guns; and rub their broken system in their faces.....Go Heels!
I keep seeing people say UNC needs NBA stars making the Max deals and they can help with NIL…What current NBA players are giving back to NIL at their former school…
Carolina is in HUGE trouble with high school recruiting. Hubert can’t even close out a kid that was basically down to Carolina after Ohio St,UConn and Michigan St bowed out. It’s absolutely pathetic. Their approach to NIL/pay for play has absolutely backfired and it looks like their attitude isn’t changing. Carolina really does not have a power forward on the roster and Dook still takes 2 of the top 4 in the country in the 2025 recruiting class. I don’t like the pay for play system but Carolina has missed the boat massively. As big as Carolina’s basketball family is and people are telling me they can’t come up with 6 million annually to play with the big boys in NIL. Come on. I call BS.
So despite the gaslighting campaign on this board, it seems we actually did have an NIL problem after all.
Problem is every year with NIL you have to start over…I would imagine the team UNC is putting on the floor this year drained the bank account…Now who is filling that account back up…Normal fans can’t do that…Need some Big Money people who like to waste money on something that they get no return on…Not many people with a lot of money will do that….
Like I said this system is not sustainable long term….
I don't disagree but so many Universities don't seem to share our problems???
When you may who is that….
dook
UK
Arkansas
UConn
That’s just 4 off the top of my head…I really can’t think of that many when you consider how many teams play D1 basketball..KU has yet to get a commitment in the 25 class…I think UNC is having the same problems that many are having in this new day and age…
Yea but look at their 25 classes right now…
1 more thing that I have read…That the Ram Clubs big money people are having a hard time spending money on kids to come play at UNC…They would rather spend it on facilities and scholarships…
This system is not sustainable it will break down in 2 or 3 years…Or you will see schools basically drop every sport except Football and Basketball…
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I really have no idea if anyone was "gaslighting" since it implies an intentional obfuscation of a known truth, but I stick to my belief that UNC is handling recruiting the proper way and staying true to its ideals! I have no idea if UNC offered 300K or 1.5 million to peeps and I don't really care. I like the state of the program and I see no reason not to believe it will continue to trend upwards! The problems I see are good ones to have! Hubs has to figure out how to keep all of the talented athletes on his team happy and how to maximize their talent!
When was the last time a team won because of a freshman? How many teams have won it all without starting a freshman? Isn't it clear yet that HS recruiting is only one of the viable sources for talent?
Keep up the good work, Hubs!
When was the last time a team won because of a freshman? How many teams have won it all without starting a freshman? Isn't it clear yet that HS recruiting is only one of the viable sources for talent?
Keep up the good work, Hubs!
Travis Branham put in a crystal ball for Dybantsa to BYU today. He also doesn't believe UNC is leading for any of our remaining recruits.
If he is proven correct that would mean UNC will land just 1 of the 17 recruits Hubert vetted, offered, and recruited in the class of 2025.
If he is proven correct that would mean UNC will land just 1 of the 17 recruits Hubert vetted, offered, and recruited in the class of 2025.
I am confident more NIL rules and regulations will be put in place in a year or two. Like you said, it isn't sustainable.
Mullins went to UCONN for substantial less NIL than IU offered, per my IU insider friend. He also stated Carolina offered more than UCONN, for what it's worth.
Sustainabilty is the real question here.
I agree, UNC may whiff big time on the 2025 class, and I am comfortable with that.
It is very hard to imagine colleges being able to pay huge amounts year-in and year out.
I also doubt the NCAA is happy with how NIL has devolved into a “Wild West” free agency… changes are likely.
I also would prefer for UNC to pay (if they must) proven college performers rather than high schoolers.
But it is what it is for now and we have to hope there are good players who are happy with what UNC offers.
I agree, UNC may whiff big time on the 2025 class, and I am comfortable with that.
It is very hard to imagine colleges being able to pay huge amounts year-in and year out.
I also doubt the NCAA is happy with how NIL has devolved into a “Wild West” free agency… changes are likely.
I also would prefer for UNC to pay (if they must) proven college performers rather than high schoolers.
But it is what it is for now and we have to hope there are good players who are happy with what UNC offers.
Hubert isn't happy. Otherwise he wouldn't have just laid into a bunch of boosters for our NIL issues.
I see people saying changes will come to NIL. But I again ask how? How does the NCAA limit NIL in any way without running afoul of antitrust litigation? I've yet to see a single person make a coherent argument for how this can be done. It's all just pie in the sky wishful thinking of "oh I'm sure they'll fix it eventually." Nothing short of an act of Congress granting the NCAA antitrust protection is going to allow the NCAA to set rules to fix NIL.
The ncaa & dooks leader of the nba have no plans to fix anything other than steer top recruits anywhere but unc ...
The only thing steering recruits away from UNC is our tight pocketbook.
I will say this, I have seen several outside the box creative ideas that other schools do to bolster their collective. Carolina seems invisible and I never hear about those type of initiatives.
Why isn’t there a team store at the arena where 10-20% of all sales goes to the players?
What about a small increase on ticket face value that goes to the players? Tennessee did something like this.
Maybe a small charge to tour the museum with all proceeds going to the players?
I could list several other things I’ve seen other schools do, but footing the NIL budget doesn’t have to fall solely on a handful of large boosters. It just takes leadership and organization from the right people to make sure the collective is equipped to get and retain talent.
Why isn’t there a team store at the arena where 10-20% of all sales goes to the players?
What about a small increase on ticket face value that goes to the players? Tennessee did something like this.
Maybe a small charge to tour the museum with all proceeds going to the players?
I could list several other things I’ve seen other schools do, but footing the NIL budget doesn’t have to fall solely on a handful of large boosters. It just takes leadership and organization from the right people to make sure the collective is equipped to get and retain talent.
