Are my eyes deceiving me or...?
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I thought I was missing something because it seemed so blatant and absolutely it went by like it didn't happen at all to anyone. Even the guy he hit didn't respond and was just basically "happy to be there" lol.
Spoke with an individual shortly after the game and I asked about the "chop" that Garrison gave that player. Was told that this player had been warned to stop holding Garrison several times and was called for at least 1 foul. When the player persisted, Garrison retaliated. What was not seen evidently, was during a break 2 officials spoke to both coaches and the holding stopped. I was told that the referee did not call a technical on Garrison due to the player being warned by 2 different officials. Apparently the officiating crew discussed the issue with both coaches and the blatant holding stopped. Generally, an official will not be this fair and it's usually the retaliating player who gets either the common foul or technical, which, in this case would have been Garrison.
I mean, it definitely was not a chop but a punch. I didn't knows the refs discussed it, but I also can't say they handled it fairly by allowing a player to punch another, which is probably an automatic ejection.
It was barely a few minutes into the game, so I am not sure how drastic this could have been going on prior or why referees were "warning" instead of calling fouls if this was the issue. Hell, some of our gurus here say UVA holds on every play.
Also, according to ESPN's play by play, Northeastern had 0 fouls called on it prior to this incident.
It was barely a few minutes into the game, so I am not sure how drastic this could have been going on prior or why referees were "warning" instead of calling fouls if this was the issue. Hell, some of our gurus here say UVA holds on every play.
Also, according to ESPN's play by play, Northeastern had 0 fouls called on it prior to this incident.
Geez, apparently this had been going on from the outset. I don't recall seeing a punch thrown, but it's fairly evident he did, as others have mentioned this on other boards. I do remember Garrison chopping his man's arm to get him to let go of his jersey, and then his arm. I would guess that the referees did not see a punch or that would have certainly been cause for a technical or even ejection.
Figuring that is probably an ejection if seen, I don't think that is the type of fire we want from our players.
It was meant sarcastically. I find it a little odd that he is that aggressive against northeastern but many times looks like a dog with his tail between his legs against the better teams we play, pouting and jogging up and down the floor.
I’m totally not one to argue but that’s not a punch. Even though his hand may be clinched, that’s a chop and “get the crap off me.” LOL
Edited. I watched it from beginning and 00 did nothing to warrant that. Brooks was at fault. Almost anger issues. I’m all for bowing up and giving our fair share of toughness but that kid was playing basketball. SMH
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We have a couple of these types on this team. “Born again hard” when playing lesser opponents but tend to shrink when up against higher lever comp.
a few upperclassmen come to mind.
a few upperclassmen come to mind.
But by no means do I think it was good. I actually think brooks was the instigator. Looked that way, but I know all the junk that’s said and done on the court too.
Brooks has been a bust this year, both from a production and leadership perspective.
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hey @Travis2262 I'm curious whe you found this ACC Network link to view the game after it was over. Do you have to be an ACC Network subscriber?
I'm curious because I live in the midwest and I have not found a decent way to stream the ACC Network games. I suppose I could pay for them but I just haven't yet. Is there a place on ACC Network where people can view games after they have completed, for free? TIA.
I've been watching the 05, 09, and 17 UNC championship games on YouTube lately (it helps after watching a horrible game like vs Virginia). The game last night just happened to show up as a recommendation on YouTube today.
Well, you are referencing him punching someone. Garrison Brooks is also holding the other guy's arm when he punches him. There was no fouls prior, which your story said there was... and you said the refs were warning them about holding... but I don't think the game shows that either.
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found it on espn3.com last night, had not been able to stream ACCN games previously
I won't go so far as to say bust. But I am definitely disappointed for Garrison.... none of us know the why, but our eyes don't lie, he's missing easy shots, getting flustered at defenders and watching one, and now two freshmen play with greater effect.
That particular sequence was not a thrown punch that I could see. AND, as I said, the information I received, was not my observation at all, but was relayed to me by someone who was there. I was just simply conveying what I was told. You got a problem with this?
ETA: If a warning did take place, which I believe did, and was during a TO, it is more than likely that if the network broke for commercial activity, then the discussion by the officials with the benches would not have been seen by an audience perhaps?
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There was no TOs prior. Instead of throwing crap at the board trying to find a defense to defend these actions to stick, maybe actually review the video above. I know he is a Tar Heel, but this is turning into Duke defending Grayson Allen tripping levels of nonsense.
If you perceive as "crap" what I post on this board, then don't read it. I am not defending anything. What I posted was what I had discussed with an individual who WAS THERE, and if his account is not correct, then he saw it wrong.
What I don't get, is the argumentative belligerence on your part, to what has turned out to be an inconsequential play that is over and done with.
Your source has been proven wrong countless times, and you have a primary source to view it yourself. Yes, when you keep using a nonsensical defense to something, someone is going to point out it is nonsensical. That isn't beligerrence. That is just common sense.
Nothing you are saying makes any sense, and you have video to see for yourself why it doesn't. Again. This is becoming Grayson Allen levels of defense for his tripping.
I mean, I can remember Duke fans saying "it was an accident" "they didn't even call a foul on it" "it was inconsequential" "he is a good person and wouldn't do that". Yadda yadda. It's right there. You can see right there what happened. If you wish to discuss it, maybe viewing it when presented should be a prerequisite?
You can scream about this for as long as you want to, doesn't matter to me or most others. There has not been any official discussion on this anywhere I can find, so, that makes it inconsequential to me. If the person I conversed with misspoke, then so be it.
And yes, maybe I should make previewing a prerequisite, but I think your are trying to build a mountain out of a molehill. In other words, that sequence in that game is of no importance other than you pointing out that Garrison's action in that instance was questionable. I agreed with that, however, since nothing of note has been mentioned officially about it, what's left to discuss about it? It's a non sequitur and in my opinion deserves no follow up discussion. And as such, I am through discussing this.
I agree I was uncalled for and shouldn't have happened, it was pretty much a punch his fist was balled up.
I think the behavior is possibly a sign that something is going on with Brooks, yes. I don't know if it's an anger issue, just a bad personality, frustration building up, or what. I don't think it is in the stratosphere of normal post play. Like, I had to rewind the game 5 times because I couldn't believe what I thought I saw and was seeing. I think it is very concerning. I don't condone bad actions by UNC players just because they wear our uniform. Same with Jalek Felton. I do, however, share concern for him and hope that when red signs are flashing, like this, that somebody is providing him help with what is causing these things if something is truly going on. I don't think brushing it under the rug and excusing it provides the help possibly needed.
