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Bracketology with Joe Lunardi

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Currently Lunardi has the Heels as a #3 seed in South Region with Kentucky as #1 seed. Sure would not want to go out West with UCLA as the #1. Actually, I prefer this Region over the other 3 Regions if the Heels go in as a #3 seed.

Can't see a #1 seed unless the Heels lose 6 games or less going into the ACC tounament and outright regular season ACC winner.

Going to be interesting to see how the seeding changes over the next several weeks.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology/_/iteration/196
 
I'd be surprised if we were higher than a 3 seed come Tourney time . .
 
Steat said:
Currently Lunardi has the Heels as a #3 seed in South Region with Kentucky as #1 seed. Sure would not want to go out West with UCLA as the #1. Actually, I prefer this Region over the other 3 Regions if the Heels go in as a #3 seed.

Can't see a #1 seed unless the Heels lose 6 games or less going into the ACC tounament and outright regular season ACC winner.

Going to be interesting to see how the seeding changes over the next several weeks.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology/_/iteration/196
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I'd be surprised to see someone from the ACC get a one seed. Everyone is just going to beat up on each other and the winner could lose 5 or more conference games.
 
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tarheel0910 said:
I'd be surprised to see someone from the ACC get a one seed. Everyone is just going to beat up on each other and the winner could lose 5 or more conference games.
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You are probably right, but sure hope you are wrong as it concerns the Heels. The Heels have one of the weakest ACC schedules this year. The Heels get Florida State, Louisville and Notre Dame at home with no return games.
 
He had us as a 2-seed for at least the previous 2 weeks. I see this was updated yesterday. I'm guessing our 2nd half collapse against Wake has a lot to do with that.

With all 3 of our losses and 2 more squeakers on the road this year (Clemson and Wake), that's probably factoring in as well.

We need to step up on the road, while continuing to hold serve at home.

Let's not forget that we had a couple of tough fights at home this year, too. But we've struggled on the road in a number of games.
 
I'm not a big Lunardi fan. But ACC teams are definitely going to beat up on each other this year, just a brutal league. Meanwhile, teams like UCLA, UK, KU, Villanova, Gonzaga, etc... play in much weaker leagues. So even though we're in the toughest league by far, winning the regular season might not suffice to earn a #1 seed if the winner has 3-4 league losses, which is conceivable.

It's going to be some time before we know how this shakes out. Right now, let's just kick that BC butt Saturday.
 
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The winner of the ACC will get a 1 seed or the bball universe will collapse!

Seeds don't follow wins/losses; they are more a product of what humans in a room see with their own eyes and believe about the leagues.
 
I can already bet we get Kansas in a bracket if we're not both the same numbered seed come March..Hell, they'd have more than likely done it last year had both of us not been #1 seeds. NCAA seems to love this matchup for us so much.
 
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In theory, seeds are determined by won-loss record, strength of schedule, who's hot coming down the home stretch. etc... But they're also highly subjective and that's why we see some head scratchers every year. Personally, I think the winner of the ACC should get a #1 seed this year because it's the toughest conference by far. The question is whether it's the winner of the ACCT or the regular season. I said before the season began that I felt the winner of the regular season would have at least 3-4 losses, and I still think that will be the case. but, we'll see.
 
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Well if i were the ncaa i would def look two or three rds down the line and see what possible ratings bonanza matchups we might create. Its a business and over 90% of their revenue comes from the tourney tv dealni believe.

If it were me i would set up these possible scenarios

unc and ky in title game

Unc and kansas in final four

Dook and ky to meet somewhere

Ind and louisville to meet

Ucla and notre dame
 
heelmanwilm said:
Well if i were the ncaa i would def look two or three rds down the line and see what possible ratings bonanza matchups we might create. Its a business and over 90% of their revenue comes from the tourney tv dealni believe.

If it were me i would set up these possible scenarios

unc and ky in title game

Unc and kansas in final four

Dook and ky to meet somewhere

Ind and louisville to meet

Ucla and notre dame
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Their wet dream would be to have a UNC-duke title game. Ratings would be through the roof on that one.
 
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carolinablue34 said:
Isn't it interesting how we've never met in the NCAA tourney? Louisville and Kentucky have plenty of times.
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That's because there are rules with scheduling the tourney preventing re-matchups. If you play twice in a season you can't meet until the Elite 8. If you play 3 times you can't meet until the Final Four. For that reason teams within the same conference rarely play each other. We'd basically have to meet in the title game, which would be epic.
 
I do not think we can get a 1 seed.

Three 1 seeds are realistically already locked up.

Villanova
Gonzaga
Kentucky

Their conferences are so weak that they realistically probably cannot lose out on a 1 seed barring a miracle.

That leaves 1 1 seed left for West Virginia, Kansas, UNC, UCLA, Arizona, Virginia, Duke, Louisville, Florida St, etc.


I tell you what, we will not probably get a 1 seed, BUT I guarantee this year has at most maybe 1 1 seed in the final four.
 
imajericho said:
I do not think we can get a 1 seed.

Three 1 seeds are realistically already locked up.

Villanova
Gonzaga
Kentucky

Their conferences are so weak that they realistically probably cannot lose out on a 1 seed barring a miracle.

That leaves 1 1 seed left for West Virginia, Kansas, UNC, UCLA, Arizona, Virginia, Duke, Louisville, Florida St, etc.


I tell you what, we will not probably get a 1 seed, BUT I guarantee this year has at most maybe 1 1 seed in the final four.
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If we win the regular season & the ACC tourney I guarantee we will be a 1 seed. If we can make that happen, not sure, but I'll guarantee if we win both we're a 1.
 
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I would not say that Kentucky is locked as a #1 Seed just yet. I'd say they get the early nod now, but besides the W against us, who have they really beaten? L's to both Louisville and UCLA and they're in a very weak conference. I'll point out their game against Vandy was very close (although refs were atrocious the entire game).

If they beat KU, then they have a claim.

Right now, I'd say Villanova and Gonzaga are locks, with UCLA close to sealing the deal, though they do have a few of those trap teams in the Pac 12 this year. But IMO, they're basically the Oregon of 2017.

The 4th spot is probably a toss up between Kentucky,Kansas, us, and maybe Baylor. Possibly in that order.
 
RoseHeel said:
I would not say that Kentucky is locked as a #1 Seed just yet. I'd say they get the early nod now, but besides the W against us, who have they really beaten? L's to both Louisville and UCLA and they're in a very weak conference. I'll point out their game against Vandy was very close (although refs were atrocious the entire game).

If they beat KU, then they have a claim.

Right now, I'd say Villanova and Gonzaga are locks, with UCLA close to sealing the deal, though they do have a few of those trap teams in the Pac 12 this year. But IMO, they're basically the Oregon of 2017.

The 4th spot is probably a toss up between Kentucky,Kansas, us, and maybe Baylor. Possibly in that order.
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I think Arizona is gonna trash UCLA personally.
 
UCLA is:

1st in FG%
1st in assists per game
1st in 3-pt FG%
2nd in scoring offense
5th in scoring margin
5th in 3-pt FG per game
5th in total 3-pt FG made
17th in total rebounds

IOW, they are an incredible team offensively. They are lethal from behind the arc(44.1%). Where they struggle is on the defensive side of the ball, where they are mediocre.
 
carolinablue34 said:
Perhaps. But that UCLA team is nothing to sniff at either. Lonzo Ball and TJ Leaf are studs, and Bryce Alford is really good too.
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Not saying they are not good. Think Arizona had a few hiccups start of the season and are now playing excellent basketball.
 
Cant really say we are out for a #1 seed. We still have ND, Lou, UVA x2, Dook x2. If we win out we are probably #1 overall. Now, no sane person expects us to win out, but our schedule allows us to seed as well as we play.
 
Did a comparison of Arizona vs UCLA in some key statistical categories. UCLA is superior offensively and Arizona is superior defensively. Should be a very good game.

1st in FG%(55th)
1st in assists per game(146th)
1st in 3-pt FG%(32nd)
2nd in scoring offense(149th)
5th in scoring margin(27th)
5th in 3-pt FG per game(283rd)
17th in total rebounds(111th)
93rd in FG% defense(28th)
240th in 3-pt FG% defense(32nd)
263rd in scoring defense(13th)

BTW, Alford has really got it going on the recruiting trail, simply by mining the tremendous wealth of talent in California. Every one of these players is from California.

2016 class(ranked 5th)
Lonzo Ball 5* (#1 PG)
TJ Leaf 5* (#3 PF)
Ike Anigbogu 4* (#8 C)

2017 class(ranked 2nd)
Kris Wilkes 5* (#4 SF)
Jaylen Hands 4* (#6 PG)
Cody Riley 4* (#7 PF)
Jalen Hill 4* (#10 C)
LiAngelo Ball 3* (#38 SF)
 
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