That is not an explanation of your agenda. That is a summary of the article.
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That is not an explanation of your agenda. That is a summary of the article.
Why do you care? What is the point in being involved in this thread?
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You're right, he did receive a full scholarship to West Point and turned it down.
You're right. I made a mistake about the 6,000 years. He actually went further religious wacko and believes a male, of some kind, "created the world in 7 days"... literally, seven 24-hour periods. Now, that's not something that is necessarily dangerous to believe. But, it might be if you're going to be president of the USA. It would seem like an ideal trait for a president if you, yourself, believe the same literal interpretation. But, otherwise? He's potentially dangerous.
How this guy managed to absorb the medical training necessary to do what he's done, and wind up with beliefs like this, amazes me.
Right. According to Esquire, no one could get anyone admitted without following normal policy and procedures.
Strum- do you believe that if Obama (or any president) wanted someone admitted to West Point, he could make that happen even if it were the day classes start?
I bet teachers ****ing loved you in school.
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This is not an essay exam.
I've seen people bend and break established rules all of my life. I've seen it far further down the ladder than that. If you think he's a good candidate, great. Donate and support the guy.
What I am reading, hearing, and comprehending of Carson's story on this is he lied. He embellished, he was called on it and now his ego and his campaign refuse to admit that he made a mistake. That shows he lacks humility. And, lacking humility on such a trivial point! If you can't own-up and say, or clarify, that you misspoke, or that you may have forgotten details, or anything that exhibits some kind of "my bad, sorry"... then I sure as hell don't want to see you discussing foreign policy with global leaders.
Third time answering this. "D) Other- please elaborate."
The only agenda MIGHT BE to ideally see some integrity and adherence to constitutional policy in government. To see serious consideration given to the delegate processes and a form of government that resembles a Republic, not a reality TV show that's run by banking criminals and constant glorification of war. Lame, boring sh*t like that.
If you don't like the elaborating, don't offer it in your list of choices. I already typed this above.
Strum and this line of criticism is just stupid. Another guy came forward and said he was offered late as well. Since this is a UNC site, I'll relate a story. UNC, by law I think, cannot admit someone as in-state if they haven't lived a full year in North Carolina, right?
Well, someone that had attended, then moved out of state for near 8 years, came back to finish one last semester, whose extended family were supportive of UNC, and well he was admitted back as in-state. You could cite every "rule" you want but in the real world, exceptions are sometimes made.
That's because you are willfully obtuse. He did not, in fact, lie. He didn't even embellish.
And you're the partisan who refuses to accept that anyone on your side would EVER do anything wrong.. even remotely wrong. You're just as rigid as "liberals" and their lying bunch. It's always "they're being attacked by conservatives." Right, that's it. It's all just left vs. right.
Fine, Carson is as straight as a Grizzly's d*ck. Enjoy your day.
You haven't elaborated on shit until this reply.
So basically, you are on this thread because every candidate sucks and the system sucks.
Do I need clearance from you as to what my opinion can or cannot be?
I elaborated this way up the thread. You chose to not notice it.
The system DOES suck! Let's pretend it doesn't...
You can have whatever opinion you want, but basically it boils down to the exact same opinion on every political thread in which you participate.
In other words, do your one trick, Pony!
As opposed to the other single tricks? Left bad, right good or Right bad, left good. Only, on this board, it's mostly the former. You act like there's a potpourri of various opinions on here. If it weren't for mine, it would be basically ONE opinion here. Is it no fun to upset the apple cart and not be standing in line to blame everything on the Obama Administration and "the left?" There's barely any other opinion here. It's so heavily to the right and conservative, that even the most moderate gets labeled a communist.
The system is f*cked. Pretending everything would be great if one half of the problem were gone, is one trick! And making excuses for these people is part of the problem.
A jukebox with one song!
We all bring our songs to the box. That's what the forum is for. I can at least show some flexbility and not be always ont he exact same side of every issue. Whenever something is politicized, I'm not always on the exact same side EVERY time. But, when it comes to deriding this bought-off political/governing system? yes, I am very much opposed to it.
Strum, I'd be interested in hearing who you think right now, would be most likely to get your vote next November. Not trying to be an ass, just curious as to who and why.
Bwahaha
You are always on the exact same side of every issue. Your side is that they all suck.
Bullshit. Now, you're just lying. Every issue? Absolutely not.
If you mean political candidates? I'm not apologizing for the fact that they all suck. They suck so badly this go-round that I actually want to see Sanders make an impact just to stir things up on THAT side.
If you like Carson, go for it. He's a liability as a president from where I'm sitting. He shows no knowledge of anything substantial in a governing sense. I'd just as soon see the GOP dump the waste now.
I'd rather not give the nuclear launch codes to someone who believes the Earth is 6000 years old and that he would be doing everyone a favor by bringing on apocalypse so that his imaginary friend will come back for the rapture.
Its amazing how people will completely ignore the indictments of the candidates they support. The pictures from Carson's house clearly show he his a narcissistic loony toon, and his statements have repeatedly proven that he is either ignorant, or has no problem uttering ignorant statements to pander to evangelicals. Either way, no thanks.
Its cute that people think people on the left are scared of a black conservative. I don't care if he's blue, green, red, or purple, believing the Earth is 6000 years old should immediately disqualify anyone. And it should scare us all that those kind of statements tend to give him a BOOST because Americans are so damn stupid.
Its amazing how people will completely ignore the indictments of the candidates they support. The pictures from Carson's house clearly show he his a narcissistic loony toon, and his statements have repeatedly proven that he is either ignorant, or has no problem uttering ignorant statements to pander to evangelicals. Either way, no thanks.
Its cute that people think people on the left are scared of a black conservative. I don't care if he's blue, green, red, or purple, believing the Earth is 6000 years old should immediately disqualify anyone. And it should scare us all that those kind of statements tend to give him a BOOST because Americans are so damn stupid.
Classic Strum. In paragraph one you accuse me of lying. In pargraph 2 you confirm exactly what I said. You think they all suck. Your only purpose in any of these threads is to say just that.
You are lying about my perspectives or contributions on ISSUES, things that occur in society. If it's a politicized issue, which it typically is, there's no guarantee which "side" I'm going to fall.Classic Strum. In paragraph one you accuse me of lying. In pargraph 2 you confirm exactly what I said. You think they all suck. Your only purpose in any of these threads is to say just that.
I'm critical of almost all political candidates... always have been, always will be.
Oh please. I (or any OOTB regular) can predict exactly where you will come down on any issue with a high degree of accuracy.
And no one cares what positon you take, given that you haven't got the balls to support anyone.
Nice spin. I don't have the balls to support these bought-off shills... whatever makes you feel right.
It's not spin and I have no concerns about "feeling right". Take a position man, or forever more be known as the pointless contrarian.
Taking a position is my specialty. Supporting shills doesn't have anything to do with "taking a position." Choosing the best liar is hardly taking a position on anything.
So you throw a fit of emotion when exposed and parade another lie to try to vindicate yourself?
Why?
You were wrong. Admit it. As far as me, not only do I admit when a Republican does something wrong, I may be the one bringing it up. But Carson didn't do anything wrong here. If you want to argue a doctor doesn't prepare one to be president or some potentially valid but debatable point, fine.
But don't insist black is white and white is black and smear a man as lying when he didn't just because some MSM hacks do smear and hit job on him. That's wrong and so some of us called you out on it. Grow up.
I suppose you did take a position to start the thread- Carson is a liar. And then when several of us debunked your position, you fell back to your one trick "all politicians are liars, shills, owned by the man, etc".
Frankly, I don't (or didn't) even consider Carson to be a politician. He's definitely aspiring to be one now, however. And, from his views and opinions so far, a fairly self-obsessed one who is showing great promise as a first-rate panderer. Not to mention, he's bordering on full-blown religious wacko.
You can mention religious whacko all you want and I am right there with you.
Dude, why are you so afraid of Ben Carson? You are terrified, and you must hate him.
Are you a Carsonphobe? You know, not all Carsons are like that, and I know one that is very nice and hasn't tried to lie to me.
But you just go right on being afraid and filled with hatred. Carsonphobe!
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No, not all Carsons are like that. See, unlike Muslims 10,000 miles away, this guy actually CAN have an affect on my life, directly. Muslims didn't put The Patriot Act and the NDAA into effect, our beloved government did that. So, do I fear them? Hell yes! They're the ones that can actually do damage to my (and your) liberties. They have the power to tax us, restrict us, imprison us, and force us to do just about anything they choose. Muslims are less of a threat to me than Ebola. These prizes that are running for office are much more of a threat.
Hey Strum, do you have a problem with Hillary bringing in some New Ager to dabble in the occult so she could consult with Eleanor Roosevelt from the dead on actual government policies?
Is that a religiously wacko thing in your eyes?
Because that's what Hillary said she was doing. Seems far crazier than having some unconventional views on ancient pyramids.
Is that a religiously wacko thing in your eyes?
Because that's what Hillary said she was doing. Seems far crazier than having some unconventional views on ancient pyramids.
Hillary Clinton is openly on the payroll of Wall Street and Goldman Sachs, in particular. I haven't heard about her trying to contact Eleanor Roosevelt. But, now that you know I dislike Hillary Clinton, is your partisan thirst quenched?
ETA: I'm also quite certain that Hillary will gladly go to war with whatever Middle Eastern country Lockheed Martin says is a threat.
So do you think that's religiously wacko or not?
Seriously. Why is it Muslims that believe all sorts of wacky stuff are fine? Wacko occult practices may be fine or not with you?
But gee, a man believes in the Bible and he's dangerous?
If it eases your partisan/religious conscience; If a ballot had Hillary or Ben Carson, and I had a gun to my head to vote for one or the other, I'd go with Carson. Feel better now?
All ancient, organized religious beliefs are potentially dangerous. How people interpret them, and act on those interpretations, can be all over the map.
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I am just trying to get a straight answer. Even here, you dodged. "Ancient and organized religious beliefs" suggests you think some New Age beliefs where a major politician consults with the dead for policy recommendations might be Ok.
I'm not dodging anything. I'm being very succinct. It doesn't suggest anything to me. It says, quite clearly, that people who read ancient manuscripts, and act and interpret them as if they were dictated by the entity they call God, are likely to have very interesting results. If someone is believing they're in contact with a dead person and getting up-to-the-moment bulletins on how best to kill people today? Also nuttier than Chinese chicken salad.
The noticeable difference here is, Ben Carson believes in a creation of the universe in seven 24-hour periods, and Hillary Clinton talking to Eleanor Roosevelt through a clairvoyant medium is a bunch of crap you're making up because...as usual... you're driven by allegiance to your own partisan and religious rhetoric. If she did do that, then it's one more nutty cookie in her box. Hillary Clinton is just as dangerous, for different reasons. You'll pick far-fetched reasons over the real reasons because you actually subscribe to many of the religious beliefs as Carson! Clinton is not a political unknown as Carson.
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