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Donald Williams is now a woofie

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well sure hated seeing this in my fb feed. Htf can this happen?
 
I know it's social media and not a term paper. But the use of "have" incorrectly multiple times?

Are we sure this is legit?

Also a 1300 SAT on a 2400 point scale is probably a lot of the problem with admissions.
 
I know it's social media and not a term paper. But the use of "have" incorrectly multiple times?

Are we sure this is legit?

Also a 1300 SAT on a 2400 point scale is probably a lot of the problem with admissions.

We’ve been fb friends for over a decade. This is def him.

Has the SAT changed format? Back in my day i think 1600 was perfect.
 
We’ve been fb friends for over a decade. This is def him.

Has the SAT changed format? Back in my day i think 1600 was perfect.
Yea it changed at least a decade back in NC. Unless it's changed again.

Edit: March 2016 the state changed from the 2400 point scale back to 1600. I don't have kids yet so wasn't aware.
 
According to the 2017 class profile, the 1300 would be at the lower end of what was accepted.

25th-75th percentiles * (Middle 50 percent)
—SAT Critical Reading 640-720
—SAT Math 630-730
—ACT Composite 28-33

So if i’m reading that correctly shes on the lower end of the middle 50 percentile? That tells me nearly half of admitted have worse scores?
 
So if i’m reading that correctly shes on the lower end of the middle 50 percentile? That tells me nearly half of admitted have worse scores?
That's the way I read it, but as you know it's not always as simple as the score. There are all sorts of other things that are taken into account. I'm a little disappointed that he would make that public though. No need to ridicule the school publicly and then say go moo at the end of it.
 
That's the way I read it, but as you know it's not always as simple as the score. There are all sorts of other things that are taken into account. I'm a little disappointed that he would make that public though. No need to ridicule the school publicly and then say go moo at the end of it.
Yeah, it's extremely childish of him, to be quite honest. Carolina was my dream school, too, and like Daja, I didn't get accepted as a high school senior. Did I give up? No. I enrolled at a different university, did two semesters, re-applied as a transfer, and got accepted to Carolina.
 
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Yeah, it's extremely childish of him, to be quite honest. Carolina was my dream school, too, and like Daja, I didn't get accepted as a high school senior. Did I give up? No. I enrolled at a different university, did two semesters, re-applied as a transfer, and got accepted to Carolina.

All i can add is that in reading his posts for years i know he bleeds unc blue and is obsessed with those kids. He’s Always posting what they’re doing and such. It has to be crushing to see her denied to unc.
 
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? UNC has to have at least 82% of undergrads be from the state of NC, so in-state students are highly advantaged during the admissions process.
That doesn't mean they have to accept 82% every year though. You still have an advantage, but it's not as big as the 82% would suggest.
 
That's great, but then I don't understand the point you were making.
Remember when you said most of the folks in your grad program were Indian? Same kind of thing happens (on a smaller scale) in undergrad for that other 18%. IMO, UNC takes way, way too many international students. I know why they do it, I just don't agree with it.
 
That doesn't mean they have to accept 82% every year though. You still have an advantage, but it's not as big as the 82% would suggest.
That's correct. Last year they accepted 52% of in-state applicants and 19% of out-of-state applicants, so it was still about triple the rate.
 
Remember when you said most of the folks in your grad program were Indian? Same kind of thing happens in undergrad for that other 18%. IMO, UNC takes way, way too many international students. I know why they do it, I just don't agree with it.
I didn't say most, I just said about as many as NC residents. I think both are about 15% of the class. A large portion is from other US states, and there are also many internationals from other countries.

There are multiple factors at play, with the biggest being out-of-state/country students pay much more tuition so schools are incentivized to take more of them. If we dropped the 82% requirement to 70% you can bet the very next year 30% of undergrad students would be non-NC residents.
 
There are multiple factors at play, with the biggest being out-of-state/country students pay much more tuition so schools are incentivized to take more of them. If we dropped the 82% requirement to 70% you can bet the very next year 30% of undergrad students would be non-NC residents.
I know why they do it, I just don't agree with it.
 
What would you prefer they do?
Take less international students, and with the 18% out-of-state, focus more on Southern applicants. I can't prove it, and the admissions department wouldn't tell you one way or the other, but based on an observational basis while I was in school there (2009-2012), of the out-of-state students, most were from the Northeast (MD, NJ, CT, Mass, NYC).

Of course, with all the transplants in Cary/RTP who qualify as "in state" even though they and their family have only been in the state for a few years, if that, it's hard to tell sometimes.
 
If it was my little girl I would don't he exact same thing blood is thicker than schools and that especially goes for children
 
Take less international students, and with the 18% out-of-state, focus more on Southern applicants. I can't prove it, and the admissions department wouldn't tell you one way or the other, but based on an observational basis while I was in school there (2009-2012), of the out-of-state students, most were from the Northeast (MD, NJ, CT, Mass, NYC).

Of course, with all the transplants in Cary/RTP who qualify as "in state" even though they and their family have only been in the state for a few years, if that, it's hard to tell sometimes.
Can you explain the value you think that would bring?
 
You'd tell your child it's okay to give up when the going gets tough? It's way easier to transfer into Carolina than it is to get in out of high school.
That's not giving up I can see why he would feel this way I have a little girl her dr am is to cheerlead for UNC what happens if ecu offers her a full ride to cheer and UNC says not good enough?
 
Can you explain the value you think that would bring?
Other than pleasing me? :)

I just think it's the right thing to do. Carolina is a Southern university... well at least, it has been during its history. I don't think universities should look at "value" at all when it comes to admitting (non-athlete) students. I think UNC, if it comes down to an applicant from Hickory, NC and an applicant from China should 100 times out of 100 go with the Hickory applicant.

But that's the last I'll say on here as this is a basketball board. If you want to continue this discussion @gauchoheel, I'd love to, but let's do it here in this thread on OOTB.
 
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That's not giving up
If her true dream is Carolina or bust, then yes, it's giving up. Nothing wrong with the decision to go to State at all. But if Carolina is her one and only dream, then it's giving up.

I have a little girl her dr am is to cheerlead for UNC what happens if ecu offers her a full ride to cheer and UNC says not good enough?
Then a decision must be made at that point. The full ride to ECU is a great opportunity but isn't the only opportunity. She could still try her hand at going to ECU and then trying to transfer to Carolina.
 
If her true dream is Carolina or bust, then yes, it's giving up. Nothing wrong with the decision to go to State at all. But if Carolina is her one and only dream, then it's giving up.


Then a decision must be made at that point. The full ride to ECU is a great opportunity but isn't the only opportunity. She could still try her hand at going to ECU and then trying to transfer to Carolina.
Let me just tell you we make to much for grants and while she has some money for college not nearly enough for her to go with out scholarships now her grades are grade she is an A student so I am sure she will eventually get some academic schollies but if it's not for UNC and another good school offers I would.be in a corner because Mom and I can't afford to send her like some of you on here may be able to. No it's not giving up it's living my reality
 
Let me just tell you we make to much for grants and while she has some money for college not nearly enough for her to go with out scholarships now her grades are grade she is an A student so I am sure she will eventually get some academic schollies but if it's not for UNC and another good school offers I would.be in a corner because Mom and I can't afford to send her like some of you on here may be able to. No it's not giving up it's living my reality
And I sure she could but it is hard ok once bonds with friends are already made and your on a team. It would.be like me switching from the Marine corps to the army of 1 or from sheriff's deputy to city police...
 
Let me just tell you we make to much for grants and while she has some money for college not nearly enough for her to go with out scholarships now her grades are grade she is an A student so I am sure she will eventually get some academic schollies but if it's not for UNC and another good school offers I would.be in a corner because Mom and I can't afford to send her like some of you on here may be able to. No it's not giving up it's living my reality
None of that goes against what I said, though. Other opportunities exist such as student loans. If there's a will, there's almost always a way.
 
I think one should always think pragmatically with college choices, and not be stuck on whatever fulfills the "dream". My dream was to play baseball in college so I went to junior college first to keep playing. After two years I finally gave it up because I would have had to go to a small private school and pay a bunch of money to keep playing. Instead I went to a much better academic school for free, and I'm way happier with that choice. So giving up the dream of a 17 year-old isn't always a bad thing, as it's hard for young kids especially to weigh the long-term consequences of their choices.
 
If it was my little girl I would don't he exact same thing blood is thicker than schools and that especially goes for children
So you would get on social media and whine about it? If she wants to go to moo, that's fine. My issue was him going on a public forum and complaining about it. I doubt his daughter was happy with him letting the word know as well. Not getting into a school is usually something people prefer to keep to themselves.
 
I'm going to tell both of my boys that I think they should go to community college for 2 years, live at home and save money, make sure they're mature enough to go to college for the purpose of learning and then transfer somewhere where they'll be comfortable. If that's Carolina, then great. If it's not, that's also fine.

Or frankly, I may tell them that college is a big waste of money and they'd be a lot better off entering the welding program at the local community college and then doing an apprenticeship with one of several local participating companies.
 
None of that goes against what I said, though. Other opportunities exist such as student loans. If there's a will, there's almost always a way.
Dude I am not going more in debt and I have preached to my kids do not get I to debt over school if worst comes to worse they can do what I did the military made a man out of the punk kid inwas
 
All i can add is that in reading his posts for years i know he bleeds unc blue and is obsessed with those kids. He’s Always posting what they’re doing and such. It has to be crushing to see her denied to unc.
Oh I'm sure it's crushing. It would be crushing to me as a parent, and it was crushing to me as a high school senior. But after getting past my anger, I resolved myself to push forward and keep chasing my dream.

Some folks handle it differently though, and that's okay. My roommate at UGA was from Texas. Going to UT was his dream. He got denied out of high school and it made him totally turn his back on UT and to this day, he hates UT. Different strokes for different folks.
 
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In my case, I ALMOST went to moo for grad school. Talked with someone in the department for the area I was interested in and he couldn't be bothered to look away from the NY Times he was reading long enough to actually talk to me about the program. So, I left and went to grad school elsewhere. Only served to make me despise that place even more. Well, that and the fact that the girl I had been dating for 3 years was going there at the time when she decided to dump me for the guy she ended up marrying. So, yeah, I hate the place.

Of course, I ended up marrying the love of my life and she gave me 2 wonderful boys, who have grown up to be fine young men, while the ex flame never had children and is consumed by her work, so it all worked out quite well in the end!
 
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