Felton

[Archer2]

Wasn't Buzz NCPOY over Michael in '81 as well?

As for Jalek, he has a ton of things to improve upon but he has a ton of talent too. His comp in high school wasn't the greatest and he dominated with ease. He had the rep of coasting at times and turning it on when he wanted to. He's learning that dog won't hunt with Roy and it won't work at the ACC level.

Much like one of my favorite UNC players Easy Ed, his handle needs tightening up. But he possesses quickness, shooting ability, and great court vision. I read an article where Jalek said Roy yells at him a lot and it's been hard to adjust to that from a guy who seemed like the nicest man in the world when he was recruiting him. But Roy pushes those with the most talent the hardest. The hardest steel is made in the hottest fire.

Jalek had 12/4/5 in 12 minutes against OSU. That's ballin' my friends. He's just scratched the surface of his potential. If he stays 3 years, he will go down as one of our best PG's ever.

 

[gary-7]

Wasn't Buzz NCPOY over Michael in '81 as well?

As for Jalek, he has a ton of things to improve upon but he has a ton of talent too. His comp in high school wasn't the greatest and he dominated with ease. He had the rep of coasting at times and turning it on when he wanted to. He's learning that dog won't hunt with Roy and it won't work at the ACC level.

Much like one of my favorite UNC players Easy Ed, his handle needs tightening up. But he possesses quickness, shooting ability, and great court vision. I read an article where Jalek said Roy yells at him a lot and it's been hard to adjust to that from a guy who seemed like the nicest man in the world when he was recruiting him. But Roy pushes those with the most talent the hardest. The hardest steel is made in the hottest fire.

Jalek had 12/4/5 in 12 minutes against OSU. That's ballin' my friends. He's just scratched the surface of his potential. If he stays 3 years, he will go down as one of our best PG's ever.

Buzz was indeed.

As for Jalek, as we've been saying his mission is to tighten things up --- handle, defense and decision-making to be specific --- this season, to be an effictive back-up to Joel and take the keys next season.

We have to remember that Joel came in as ready to be a Carolina PG as anyone since Phil Ford --- he knew what it took to be a coach-on-the-floor and his HS resume was unmatched --- all he needed was the minutes to adapt to Roy's system and expectations. For all his talent, Jalek didn't come in with that kind of mental readiness. He was used to being a star but not a leader. Joel knew what it took to be both.

Jalek's in a good place, his bumps in the road notwithstanding, having a season to absorb Roy's sometimes painful indoctrination along with the benefit of playing and practicing with one of the best who's ever come thru here. I'm still SMDH at fans wanting to write him off after one crappy outing. It should be obvious he has the instincts, the stuff that can't be taught --- now it's just a matter of absorbing the stuff that can.

 

[DSouthr]

Wasn't Buzz NCPOY over Michael in '81 as well?

As for Jalek, he has a ton of things to improve upon but he has a ton of talent too. His comp in high school wasn't the greatest and he dominated with ease. He had the rep of coasting at times and turning it on when he wanted to. He's learning that dog won't hunt with Roy and it won't work at the ACC level.

Much like one of my favorite UNC players Easy Ed, his handle needs tightening up. But he possesses quickness, shooting ability, and great court vision. I read an article where Jalek said Roy yells at him a lot and it's been hard to adjust to that from a guy who seemed like the nicest man in the world when he was recruiting him. But Roy pushes those with the most talent the hardest. The hardest steel is made in the hottest fire.

Jalek had 12/4/5 in 12 minutes against OSU. That's ballin' my friends. He's just scratched the surface of his potential. If he stays 3 years, he will go down as one of our best PG's ever.

As I have said, Jalek will be just fine but there is a maturation process that has had to take place, Roy had to clear out all the smoke that has been blown up his (Jalek's) butt for so long, had to break him down in order to be able to build him back up stronger and as a real player and not some high school phenom. Jalek could get away with being some what casual with the ball in high school, he is having to learn to be ball strong, having to learn the value of EACH POSSESSION and not being able to take a possession off, to maximize every second he is on the court on BOTH ends and not just play to score and rest on the other side.

The last 2 games from Jalek shows you the yen and the yang, what he is capable of doing from both the good as well as the bad ends of the spectrum. As he develops you are going to see much less of the bad and much more of the good and player much more in control of the game and having a better understanding of when to push and when to pull it back, when it is OK to take the higher risk and when it is smarter to work for an easier opportunity. Jalek has spent most of his frosh season splatted against that freshman wall, kinda glad he has in that usually when they hit that wall early on they find their way off later in the season, like Marcus was able to, like Kendal was able to, like Ty was. It is a bit like when they go down as far as the possibly can and that Wofford game for Jalek may have been as bad as it could get, there is no place left to go but up and vs OSU he did raise his level up but there is a lot more upward room for him to raise up to.

 

[superstar57]

We as Carolina fans are the only idiots that said OAD for Felton (Not Me).

Felton can/will have a Marcus Paige impact. Colby White will eventually start next year, but Felton will be another ball handlers on the floor, and will prolly be given every chance to start next year at PG. Emergence of Kenny Williams could possibly keep Felton out of starting line up until his Junior year, but he will be special before it is over, and I will make the prediction will be a better pro prospect than Joel Berry.

Relax we are coming off back to back Natty appearances, and just got cleared by NCAA. We are okay.

FYI: We once lost to Santa Clara!

 

[superstar57]

I too am of the mindset that Jalek is just going through some major growing pains. If we had lost JB, he’d be much farther along.

Different PGs have come along at different speeds. Ty Lawson was the only one I can think of that was really good right off the bat. But Ray, Kendall Marshall, Marcus and JB all struggled majorly right out of the gate.

I realize there is virtually room for error this year with this team. There are situations where he’s going to do something where we go “WTF” but in the long run it’ll help him.

Kendall Marshall never struggled! Anyone with a basketball IQ knew he was good.

 

[illini-heel]

"Buzz" was never NCPOY over Michael in '81...because Michael was a freshman in '82!

 

[gary-7]

We as Carolina fans are the only idiots that said OAD for Felton (Not Me).

Felton can/will have a Marcus Paige impact. Colby White will eventually start next year, but Felton will be another ball handlers on the floor, and will prolly be given every chance to start next year at PG. Emergence of Kenny Williams could possibly keep Felton out of starting line up until his Junior year, but he will be special before it is over, and I will make the prediction will be a better pro prospect than Joel Berry.

Relax we are coming off back to back Natty appearances, and just got cleared by NCAA. We are okay.

FYI: We once lost to Santa Clara!

One thing: why would Kenny Williams keep Jalek out of the lineup? Coby White is not going to start over Jalek Felton, if that's what you mean. Barring injury, Jalek is our starting PG next season and Kenny the starting 2.

 

[gary-7]

"Buzz" was never NCPOY over Michael in '81...because Michael was a freshman in '82!

81-82 was their freshman season. Yes, Buzz was state POY over MJ in 1981... then they became best friends at UNC.

 

[carolinablue34]

Kendall Marshall never struggled! Anyone with a basketball IQ knew he was good.

What are you kidding? Kendall wasn’t perfect when he first got the reins. Condescend much?

 

[gunslingerdick]

One thing: why would Kenny Williams keep Jalek out of the lineup? Coby White is not going to start over Jalek Felton, if that's what you mean. Barring injury, Jalek is our starting PG next season and Kenny the starting 2.

Kenny will start at the 2 until he graduates. And I can finally say, I’m thankful for that.

Felton is gonna be special. It won’t be this year. Probably not next year either. But if he’s patient enough to come back for a 3rd year, he’ll be ridiculously good. POY talent. He’s still got a long way to go. Looks promising.

Manley is not Bradley’s equal in talent. But he’s been every bit his equal in production and impact thus far. This guy will own the ACC paint by his senior year. Brooks has been almost as good and Huffman is the best athlete of the lot of them and has barely gotten any run. Our front court is more than solid for next several years.

Merry Christmas.

 

[gary-7]

Kenny will start at the 2 until he graduates. And I can finally say, I’m thankful for that.

Yep.

Felton is gonna be special. It won’t be this year. Probably not next year either. But if he’s patient enough to come back for a 3rd year, he’ll be ridiculously good. POY talent. He’s still got a long way to go. Looks promising.

Agree, although I think next season will be a pretty good one for him.

Manley is not Bradley’s equal in talent. But he’s been every bit his equal in production and impact thus far. This guy will own the ACC paint by his senior year. Brooks has been almost as good and Huffman is the best athlete of the lot of them and has barely gotten any run. Our front court is more than solid for next several years.

I'll just say had Manley not had those catastrophic injuries he may have come out of HS at least as highly regarded as Tony. Word is NBA scouts are already taking notice. The talent is there, it's just a matter of how soon his body catches back up. I think he is our eventual starting 5, as Brooks is ultimately a 4. Garrison has some face-up game we haven't seen much of yet.

Merry Christmas.

Back atcha

 

[Archer2]

One thing: why would Kenny Williams keep Jalek out of the lineup? Coby White is not going to start over Jalek Felton, if that's what you mean. Barring injury, Jalek is our starting PG next season and Kenny the starting 2.

I agree. White will get significant burn but won’t start at PG ahead of Jalek. After this year, Jalek will be our starting PG until he leaves UNC.

 

[Sk1310]

We as Carolina fans are the only idiots that said OAD for Felton (Not Me).

Felton can/will have a Marcus Paige impact. Colby White will eventually start next year, but Felton will be another ball handlers on the floor, and will prolly be given every chance to start next year at PG. Emergence of Kenny Williams could possibly keep Felton out of starting line up until his Junior year, but he will be special before it is over, and I will make the prediction will be a better pro prospect than Joel Berry.

Relax we are coming off back to back Natty appearances, and just got cleared by NCAA. We are okay.

FYI: We once lost to Santa Clara!

ok



"I dont think its inconceivable to think Felton could be a 1 year player"

Rob Harrington might be a UNC fan, but he covers basketball for a living.

 

[DSouthr]

I agree. White will get significant burn but won’t start at PG ahead of Jalek. After this year, Jalek will be our starting PG until he leaves UNC.

White is a heck of a player but he is a heck of a lot more a 2 than a point, I argued over the summer that if Jalek were 1&D that White could handle the PG role, it would come down to he and 7th if Jalek were not there. I do not see Leaky as a 6-8-9" PG, he will be more of a Theo like point forward facilitator like Theo.

Agreed Arch, I don't see Kenny not starting and I don't see Platek in his soph season with only mop up minutes and yet White is a dynamic scorer but it will take him some time to adjust to this level. The only freshman I see starting next season is Little, noting that means if our class for 2018 is now done. See our starting line up as Luke, Manley, Little, Kenny, and Jalek and just look at that depth coming off our bench!

I do think it strongly possible that we have at least 1 transfer out and it could be 2 for PT reasons...

 

[Archer2]

Do you see cam returning?

 

[DSouthr]

Do you see cam returning?

Have given my opinion on Cam several times and still hold same, at this point I do see him returning, that could change by his having a huge ending to this season. He has not been able to make his NBA ready case as of yet and I do think he has NBA potential that he wants to have the option to realize and I do think UNC is the place that can happen, if not after this season then certainly after the next one.

 

[gary-7]

Do you see cam returning?

I haven't heard anything concrete, but I suspect it will have much to do with how these next 3 months go, as in how fast he progresses and how the team's fortunes pan out.

 

[Archer2]

I see Cam returning and battling Little for the SF spot.

 

[pln2013]

I see Cam returning and battling Little for the SF spot.

If Cam returns, we'll get to enjoy another season of the "can a lineup with Luke at center work?" debate. Because our best 3/4/5 would probably be Cam/Nas/Luke.

 

[heels05champs]

I just can't see Cam returning to play another year while not even being in school. He will have a Master's degree and could be playing for pay somewhere (either overseas or here) so until I see otherwise, I am assuming he is gone.

 

[trestyles]

I think cam is gone. He's not going to risk injury. Idk if he gets drafted.

 

[Archer2]

I just can't see Cam returning to play another year while not even being in school. He will have a Master's degree and could be playing for pay somewhere (either overseas or here) so until I see otherwise, I am assuming he is gone.

I thought his Master’s degree was a 2 year deal. He won’t stay if it’s not.

 

[TarHeelMark]

I thought his Master’s degree was a 2 year deal. He won’t stay if it’s not.

It typically is a two year deal, but he got his bachelors in 3 @ Pitt, didn't he?

 

[heels05champs]

I thought his Master’s degree was a 2 year deal. He won’t stay if it’s not.

Most tend to finish their Masters in one year, espeicially if you take summer courses which I'm sure he is.

 

[dadika13]

Nobody said Felton is Larry Drew.

Felton is Larry Drew bad right now.

Sigh.

Hope he proved the lot of you wrong last weekend.

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Sigh.

Hope he proved the lot of you wrong last weekend.

Young man is getting it. Bright-Bright future for us, hope it last at least a couple of seasons.

 

[carolinablue34]

Young man is getting it. Bright-Bright future for us, hope it last at least a couple of seasons.

Just imagine what he could be with a more seasoned Brooks, Manley and our incoming freshman class next year. Though I do hope we sign a high level big man soon.

 

[Steat]

I doubt Cam will be back. He will be age 24 after this season and what will he come back to improve on? He is already a good outside shooter. I doubt the NBA will be interested in a 25-year old one-dimensional player in 2 years. This season is Cam's time to shine.

Felton is the only player on the team that can create his own shot. By the end of this season he will be a force. Another thing, if the Heels make it back to the Final Four and Felton plays a huge part in getting the Heels there, I would not be so sure that he will be back next year. As it stands right now, Felton will be back, but if the Heels make it back to the Final Four and he continues to improve, all bets are off..(i.e Tony Bradley).

 

[Heels5150]

Cam needs to work on his speed and quickness. His shooting is effortless and so smooth. With Joel, Kenny, Luke and Cam shooting consistently our Tar Heels are going to be a very dangerous Team!

 

[imajericho]

Sigh.

Hope he proved the lot of you wrong last weekend.

I dunno what this post is showing other than a potential lack of grasp of the English language.

 

[illini-heel]

81-82 was their freshman season. Yes, Buzz was state POY over MJ in 1981... then they became best friends at UNC.

'82 is when the POY is awarded. This was NOT '81 POY...while the season is '81-'82 nobody would ever call it the '81 NPOY.

For example, Frank Mason just won it. He didn't win the '16 NPOY...absolutely NOBODY would refer to it as such. It would either be the '16-'17 or more commonly, the '17 NPOY.

 

[illini-heel]

'82 is when the POY is awarded. This was NOT '81 POY...while the season is '81-'82 nobody would ever call it the '81 NPOY.

For example, Frank Mason just won it. He didn't win the '16 NPOY...absolutely NOBODY would refer to it as such. It would either be the '16-'17 or more commonly, the '17 NPOY.

It was my understanding that they were discussing NPOY...not State...if so, my bad.

 

[gary-7]

'82 is when the POY is awarded. This was NOT '81 POY...while the season is '81-'82 nobody would ever call it the '81 NPOY.

For example, Frank Mason just won it. He didn't win the '16 NPOY...absolutely NOBODY would refer to it as such. It would either be the '16-'17 or more commonly, the '17 NPOY.

Incorrect. First, no one is talking about a national award. You brought up NC POY., and that's what we're talking about. The simple fact is Buzz and MJ were both in the HS graduating class of 81. Buzz was state POY for the 80-81 season. Neither was in HS at any time in 1982. Why are you even arguing about this?

 

[dadika13]

I just can't see Cam returning to play another year while not even being in school. He will have a Master's degree and could be playing for pay somewhere (either overseas or here) so until I see otherwise, I am assuming he is gone.

Agree with this. No way Cam is around next year IMO.

 

[Heels5150]

Agree with this. No way Cam is around next year IMO.

I don’t know. I guess it depends of course on how well he does the rest of the way. But remember he fought hard for both years of egilibility. Also, he is injured a lot. I would think he would want to get stronger and get better with as much exposure as possible to increase his stock. But you make valid points as well.

 

[ky-heel-man]

I doubt Cam will be back. He will be age 24 after this season and what will he come back to improve on? He is already a good outside shooter. I doubt the NBA will be interested in a 25-year old one-dimensional player in 2 years. This season is Cam's time to shine.

Felton is the only player on the team that can create his own shot. By the end of this season he will be a force. Another thing, if the Heels make it back to the Final Four and Felton plays a huge part in getting the Heels there, I would not be so sure that he will be back next year. As it stands right now, Felton will be back, but if the Heels make it back to the Final Four and he continues to improve, all bets are off..(i.e Tony Bradley).

Based on Felton’s minutes since the Ohio State game he’ll be lucky to even get 5 minutes a game. I wouldn’t be surprised if he contemplates transferring because I guarantee Woods will be the starting pg. next year just because that is how Roy rolls....upperclassman over talent majority of the time.

 

[dadika13]

Based on Felton’s minutes since the Ohio State game he’ll be lucky to even get 5 minutes a game. I wouldn’t be surprised if he contemplates transferring because I guarantee Woods will be the starting pg. next year just because that is how Roy rolls....upperclassman over talent majority of the time.

That's just not true. You sound like a bitter Duke or UK fan.

Tell me one guy who deserved to be starting over anyone on last year's team. He's starting a freaking freshman this season.

It just so happens that usually our upperclassmen are our most talented.

 

[gary-7]

Based on Felton’s minutes since the Ohio State game he’ll be lucky to even get 5 minutes a game. I wouldn’t be surprised if he contemplates transferring because I guarantee Woods will be the starting pg. next year just because that is how Roy rolls....upperclassman over talent majority of the time.

Horseshit.

 

[Canadian Heel]

Based on Felton’s minutes since the Ohio State game he’ll be lucky to even get 5 minutes a game. I wouldn’t be surprised if he contemplates transferring because I guarantee Woods will be the starting pg. next year just because that is how Roy rolls....upperclassman over talent majority of the time.

That’s the biggest pile of crap. Roy plays freshmen when they commit to D and understand how to play. This myth has been repeated so many times some idiots actually believe it.

 

[imajericho]

Felton had trouble bringing the ball up court on one possession . His handles aren't very tight and defenders keep getting aggressive with him when he dribbles.