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Fire all the ACC officials

Sorry topdeck, but I have to disagree with you there. Looks clean to me. I think you're just using that to minimize the blown offside call. Whatever, you see things through orange tinted glasses and I see through light blue.

Regardless, as a football fan, I think you'll agree that officiating has been atrocious this year and needs to be addressed pronto.
All of his posts are looking for reasons to blame refs on something. You'd think his team was screwed out of a chance last night........
 
Sorry topdeck, but I have to disagree with you there. Looks clean to me. I think you're just using that to minimize the blown offside call. Whatever, you see things through orange tinted glasses and I see through light blue.

Regardless, as a football fan, I think you'll agree that officiating has been atrocious this year and needs to be addressed pronto.

It's not clean. It was a helmet to helmet hit on a defenseless player. It's laughable that you think that was "clean" hit. It's just like the hit on Switzer that was called.
 
It's not clean. It was a helmet to helmet hit on a defenseless player. It's laughable that you think that was "clean" hit. It's just like the hit on Switzer that was called.
I don't know if he was "defenseless", but I agree it was a helmet-to-helmet play. I don't think the UNC player was aiming for his helmet, but the ball. Football is contact... direct, hard contact.

The difference between what you're arguing and what the rest of us are arguing is clear... a flag was thrown over what we're arguing. The flag erased a VERY important play that greatly affected the outcome. It was a flag for an infraction THAT NEVER OCCURRED! What's worse than missing an improper foul? Calling one where it absolutely doesn't exist.
 
Actually, they're different in one regard. One was blatant leading with the helmet and one was the defender getting down to make the tackle and raising his head up as he did so. Most contact was with his shoulder. As I said, we'll agree to disagree. It was a close call/no call, I'll agree. What isn't even close is the picture posted above that undeniably proves no UNC player was close to being offside. Do you deny that?

And you didn't answer my question. Do you think officiating has been bad all year and is in dire need of being addressed?
 
A picture is worth a thousand words. I'm not dwelling on this because there were many other things that contributed to the loss, primarily Clemson being the better team.

HST, how in the world can conference officials be so damn incompetent week after week and not be held accountable? I think a concerted campaign to answer this question should be mounted by HC's and fans alike. When obviously blown calls occur on national TV and potentially affect the outcome of the game, it makes the conference look bad. Surely the PTB can see this.

I'm talking to you Mr. Swofford. It is obvious that our officials require better training and supervision, with serious repercussions for substandard performance. If anyone has the Supervisor of Officials' email address, please make it available. If it takes embarrassing him to elicit action on his part, so be it.
Archer, Dennis Hennigan, ACC Coordinator of Officials. His email address is posted in the thread about mooU's dirty cheap shot on MW. I think the thread title us "Okay, now I'm pissed!"
 
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I only mentioned the UNC bias, because I am on your site. Believe me Coach K also get his share of "good officiating" , but I will tell you this Clemson playing UNC or Duke in basketball has historically been at a multi-point handicap based on ACC basketball officiating.

It has become a common joke, that is discussed often. How will the refs steal this game in Chapel Hill? Ask Rick Barnes about it.
Clemson has historically been at a talent handicap against UNC for much of the history of the match-up. We were at a talent handicap tonight against the Clemson FB team. We are pretty close in the offensive skill players but the disparity is in the trenches.
 
I don't know if he was "defenseless", but I agree it was a helmet-to-helmet play. I don't think the UNC player was aiming for his helmet, but the ball. Football is contact... direct, hard contact.

The difference between what you're arguing and what the rest of us are arguing is clear... a flag was thrown over what we're arguing. The flag erased a VERY important play that greatly affected the outcome. It was a flag for an infraction THAT NEVER OCCURRED! What's worse than missing an improper foul? Calling one where it absolutely doesn't exist.

It doesn't matter about intent. Contact to the head with the helmet is an automatic penalty.

Neither is worse. Both are blown calls. I agree that the offsides penalty was wrong. It took away North Carolina's chance to tie the game. By the same token, the targeting non-call took away Clemson's chance to maintain possession. North Carolina got a second chance for the onsides kick, which shouldn't have even happened due to the penalty.

Actually, they're different in one regard. One was blatant leading with the helmet and one was the defender getting down to make the tackle and raising his head up as he did so. Most contact was with his shoulder. As I said, we'll agree to disagree. It was a close call/no call, I'll agree. What isn't even close is the picture posted above that undeniably proves no UNC player was close to being offside. Do you deny that?

And you didn't answer my question. Do you think officiating has been bad all year and is in dire need of being addressed?

There is no such thing as "agree to disagree." #42 from North Carolina made clear, I mean absolutely clear, contact with the helmet. As I just said, there is also no leeway for intent. Contact with the helmet is targeting. It doesn't matter if the contact was intentional or not.

I always think officiating is bad. I think officials in general are horrible. I think the replay rules are convoluted. That said, you can't complain about officials blowing one call, but excuse them from blowing another call. You are saying the officiating should improve, and the officials should get it right. Ok, well, if you really want to get it right, the correct ruling would have been a targeting penalty on North Carolina, with #42 being ejected, and Clemson being awarded possession of the ball 15 yards from the spot. If you say that the only problem on the play was the blown offsides call, then you aren't really interested in the officials actually getting the ruling correct.

Funny the announcers never mentioned it in all the replays.

Doesn't matter if the announcers mentioned it. The video is indisputable.
 
It doesn't matter about intent. Contact to the head with the helmet is an automatic penalty.

Neither is worse. Both are blown calls. I agree that the offsides penalty was wrong. It took away North Carolina's chance to tie the game. By the same token, the targeting non-call took away Clemson's chance to maintain possession. North Carolina got a second chance for the onsides kick, which shouldn't have even happened due to the penalty.



There is no such thing as "agree to disagree." #42 from North Carolina made clear, I mean absolutely clear, contact with the helmet. As I just said, there is also no leeway for intent. Contact with the helmet is targeting. It doesn't matter if the contact was intentional or not.

I always think officiating is bad. I think officials in general are horrible. I think the replay rules are convoluted. That said, you can't complain about officials blowing one call, but excuse them from blowing another call. You are saying the officiating should improve, and the officials should get it right. Ok, well, if you really want to get it right, the correct ruling would have been a targeting penalty on North Carolina, with #42 being ejected, and Clemson being awarded possession of the ball 15 yards from the spot. If you say that the only problem on the play was the blown offsides call, then you aren't really interested in the officials actually getting the ruling correct.



Doesn't matter if the announcers mentioned it. The video is indisputable.
I think targeting is when you intentionally target the opposing players helmet with your helmet. That's why the Clemson player was ejected and the UNC player wasn't called for it.
 
It doesn't matter about intent. Contact to the head with the helmet is an automatic penalty.

Neither is worse. Both are blown calls. I agree that the offsides penalty was wrong. It took away North Carolina's chance to tie the game. By the same token, the targeting non-call took away Clemson's chance to maintain possession. North Carolina got a second chance for the onsides kick, which shouldn't have even happened due to the penalty.



There is no such thing as "agree to disagree." #42 from North Carolina made clear, I mean absolutely clear, contact with the helmet. As I just said, there is also no leeway for intent. Contact with the helmet is targeting. It doesn't matter if the contact was intentional or not.

I always think officiating is bad. I think officials in general are horrible. I think the replay rules are convoluted. That said, you can't complain about officials blowing one call, but excuse them from blowing another call. You are saying the officiating should improve, and the officials should get it right. Ok, well, if you really want to get it right, the correct ruling would have been a targeting penalty on North Carolina, with #42 being ejected, and Clemson being awarded possession of the ball 15 yards from the spot. If you say that the only problem on the play was the blown offsides call, then you aren't really interested in the officials actually getting the ruling correct.



Doesn't matter if the announcers mentioned it. The video is indisputable.
No, dipshit. IF the UNC player was guilty, which I don't believe is the case b/c the contact was helmet to shoulder first, then the hats hit inadvertently. But IF CU had gotten that call, since the hit occurred after the ball was free, it would've been UNC ball at the UNC 32-34 yd. line. UNC recovered the free ball; we would've retained possession.
 
Whatever Clemson does this year it will be tainted by the "what if the correct call had been made what would have happened". Dabo's humiliation of his kicker was also embarrassing to watch. Preaches family, nobody treats family that way,the kid showed a lot more class than he did, way over the top.
 
Whatever Clemson does this year it will be tainted by the "what if the correct call had been made what would have happened". Dabo's humiliation of his kicker was also embarrassing to watch. Preaches family, nobody treats family that way,the kid showed a lot more class than he did, way over the to
What was the correct call?
 
No you get lost you punk. You're too stupid to realize we lost to a better team.
ROTFLMAO! You call me out for calling a dipshit same. Then you start name-calling....stupid, punk, etc. Clemson is better, but that is irrelevant, Mr. Short Bus rider. The better team doesn't always win. UNC was screwed out of a chance to tie the game and force OT, as the game unfolded. Clemson being the better team has nothing to do w/ an official pre-determining a call to protect his (and many others in the hierarchy of CFB) desired outcome.

Try again, genius.
 
Trust me little guy, you're the only one riding the short bus. Have fun here while making a fool of yourself.
 
Whatever Clemson does this year it will be tainted by the "what if the correct call had been made what would have happened". Dabo's humiliation of his kicker was also embarrassing to watch. Preaches family, nobody treats family that way,the kid showed a lot more class than he did, way over the top.
Yeah... that tirade on the punter looked like a man who would get charged with criminal domestic violence. If that had been a true game-changer, like near the end of the game and it tilted away from the Tigers? I think he might have gone Woody Hayes on the kid.

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How many of you understand the 9 yard rule on kickoffs? If you look at the bigger picture in this thread you will see two hash marks on each side of the field at the 30 and 40 yard line. The one closest to the sideline is the 9 yard marker. No player on the kickoff team can be outside of those lines. It is a 5 yard penalty. UNC players are outside this line on both sides of the ball.
 
How many of you understand the 9 yard rule on kickoffs? If you look at the bigger picture in this thread you will see two hash marks on each side of the field at the 30 and 40 yard line. The one closest to the sideline is the 9 yard marker. No player on the kickoff team can be outside of those lines. It is a 5 yard penalty. UNC players are outside this line on both sides of the ball.
never heard of it.
is this offsides or illegal procedure?
 
That's your opinion.

It is my opinion that there wasn't enough evidence to overturn the call. The Clemson fans around me at the game agreed. So did the refs, hence the "play stands" call.
The formation is illegal and you got away with targeting. Clemson had 11 penaltys to UNC 6
Stop whining you gave up 608 yds. Your QB couldn't throw it in the ocean
 
The formation is illegal and you got away with targeting. Clemson had 11 penaltys to UNC 6
Stop whining you gave up 608 yds. Your QB couldn't throw it in the ocean
Except that's not what was called. The call was offsides. Your well formed Clemson chat board talking points notwithstanding, I think I will take the experts word here.
 
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Yeah... that tirade on the punter looked like a man who would get charged with criminal domestic violence. If that had been a true game-changer, like near the end of the game and it tilted away from the Tigers? I think he might have gone Woody Hayes on the kid.

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You wish you had Dabo
 
@6forcu, here you go stupid:

The ACC released a statement on the offsides call, noting that the play was not reviewable.

"Offsides is not a reviewable play," said the spokesperson. "Dennis Hennigan [ACC director of officiating] said that mechanically the officials were in the correct position. The rule as it relates to to an onside kick that the 35-yard line is treated as a plane and if any part of a player breaks that plane before the ball is kicked it's offsides. The officials saw a member of the kicking team break the plane before the ball was kicked."

So more to our point, the call was incorrect. Don't let that stop you from retardedly continuing your flame attempts.
 
@6forcu, here you go stupid:

The ACC released a statement on the offsides call, noting that the play was not reviewable.

"Offsides is not a reviewable play," said the spokesperson. "Dennis Hennigan [ACC director of officiating] said that mechanically the officials were in the correct position. The rule as it relates to to an onside kick that the 35-yard line is treated as a plane and if any part of a player breaks that plane before the ball is kicked it's offsides. The officials saw a member of the kicking team break the plane before the ball was kicked."

So more to our point, the call was incorrect. Don't let that stop you from retardedly continuing your flame attempts.
OH you mad bro???
 
They are all a ****ing joke. And make bullshit like that reviewable. It wasn't a deadball penalty.
Its about time a tobacco road school complained about a call. LOL! I haven't forgot the "OFFSETTING" Pass interference call, the ghost offsides on Bowers. The flag was thrown before the ball was snapped. Also remember a basketball game where every Clemson player fouled out but 3. Plus real football teams don't wear baby blue. Plus the refs missed a targeting call on on Watson and on 24 where the guy launched himself head first on 24. Missed several holding calls on Lawson and you still couldn't block him. You guys are minor league and don't forget it. Oh yeah we're invading your State and getting the best players. So really, TAKE A NON-CRYING TABLET AND HUSH. Then put your baby blue diaper one and piss in it, maybe that will make you feel better.
 
Has the ACC stood by every (or non-call) call except the one against dook in the Miami loss?
 
Can we get rid of all the ACC basketball refs that gave Dean and give Roy an ongoing unfair advantage? Seems odd that you guys would be pushing for "playing fair"[/QUO
Its about time a tobacco road school complained about a call. LOL! I haven't forgot the "OFFSETTING" Pass interference call, the ghost offsides on Bowers. The flag was thrown before the ball was snapped. Also remember a basketball game where every Clemson player fouled out but 3. Plus real football teams don't wear baby blue. Plus the refs missed a targeting call on on Watson and on 24 where the guy launched himself head first on 24. Missed several holding calls on Lawson and you still couldn't block him. You guys are minor league and don't forget it. Oh yeah we're invading your State and getting the best players. So really, TAKE A NON-CRYING TABLET AND HUSH. Then put your baby blue diaper one and piss in it, maybe that will make you feel better.




Then I think you better have a talk with a lot of SC high schools who wear that same damn color .
 
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