For those who care...

[gary-7]

... about actual recruiting info (and hopefully nothing more ITT):
FYI: Garrison Brooks told a local newspaper reporter in the Auburn-Opelika area that he will not be naming any leaders nor doing interviews about it. He intends to take his visits. make his decision, announce it and sign in November. As I posted before, Auburn is trying to get his official next week --- if not it would come after UNC. I dunno if that will matter, given that he's been on AU's campus multiple times because of the proximity. What will matter most IMO is his visit to Chapel Hill.

So, in summary:
On the plus side for UNC is that in the past he has said he has no qualms about playing somewhere away from home, he seems to be a Carolina fan (or at least a great admirer of the program), and the "wow" factor of what he called his "dream offer" to an elite program. In other words, it's Carolina.

On the minus side is his mom's love for AU as an alum, his proximity, familiarity and comfort with the Auburn campus (which, like Chapel Hill, is a terrific place in its own right), and Pearl's legendary salesmanship and recent recruiting successes.

The X-factor that may favor UNC is that Pearl sandbagged the local kid while his profile blew up and meanwhile a blue-blood swooped in. Question is did he make up for that with his recent full-staff press? We shall see.

There it is, laid out. Game on.

 

[dadika13]

When's his OV with us? At LNWR?

 

[gary-7]

When's his OV with us? At LNWR?

10/7
And it will be telling if he returns for LNWR, which I think he is at least considering.

 

[RobJones__]

Yep, no more interviews. Had that posted on Four Corners on August 5th. Going to be a tough shell to crack from a media perspective and we have to respect that.

 

[gary-7]

Yep, no more interviews. Had that posted on Four Corners on August 5th. Going to be a tough shell to crack from a media perspective and we have to respect that.

Yeah, apparently he gave an interview saying he wasn't going to do interviews

 

[gary-7]

When's his OV with us? At LNWR?

Update: It looks like his AU official will in fact be in Oct., probably 22nd weekend for Arky football game.

 

[RobJones__]

Yeah, apparently he gave an interview saying he wasn't going to do interviews

True, but it's a local reporter who's had a lengthy relationship with him so I get that.

The problem was with a national reporter that misquoted him and published what he called a "final 6 schools" for Garrison, which at the time I was able to confirm with him was not true. That soured them a bit, rightfully so, on media they weren't familiar with.

 

[gary-7]

True, but it's a local reporter who's had a lengthy relationship with him so I get that.

The problem was with a national reporter that misquoted him and published what he called a "final 6 schools" for Garrison, which at the time I was able to confirm with him was not true. That soured them a bit, rightfully so, on media they weren't familiar with.

Ahh, so that's what did it. Sounded like it was something along those lines...

 

[RobJones__]

Yeah, it's not a case of the kid or his family being ridiculous at all. The decision was justified.

 

[gary-7]

Yeah, it's not a case of the kid or his family being ridiculous at all. The decision was justified.

Oh absolutely. In fact they seem to be pretty together on things.

BTW: While he was under the radar, I know from some folks in Athens that Georgia has been on him pretty consistently, maybe more so than anyone, hoping to get a steal. I wonder if they're gonna still even be a player here, now that Carolina has moved in and Auburn has stepped it up. Or is it more likely a case where Fox once again finds himself outside looking in at the end (like with Okeke)? I suspect it's the latter, and it's a UNC-AU battle now. What say you, Rob?

 

[RobJones__]

Oh absolutely. In fact they seem to be pretty together on things.

BTW: While he was under the radar, I know from some folks in Athens that Georgia has been on him pretty consistently, maybe more so than anyone, hoping to get a steal. I wonder if they're gonna still even be a player here, now that Carolina has moved in and Auburn has stepped it up. Or is it more likely a case where Fox once again finds himself outside looking in at the end (like with Okeke)? I suspect it's the latter, and it's a UNC-AU battle now. What say you, Rob?

I say that sounds like a great question for Four Corners. Come on over and I'll be glad to give my opinion.

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Thanks for sharing Gary & Rob. And IF you don't like what is being reported don't read it! Tired of seeing good threads locked.

 

[gary-7]

Thanks for sharing Gary & Rob. And IF you don't like what is being reported don't read it! Tired of seeing good threads locked.

Mikey, I was just reminded that there could be another factor soon to be at work:
5* EJ Montgomery from GA (PF '18) is likely to go ahead and commit to AU in the coming weeks (it has been considered just a matter of time --- his sister already plays there). That could crowd things up in a system that's not nearly as inside-oriented as UNC's...

 

[TPFKAPFS]

Sounds like my kind of kid. If he sticks to his guns and keeps quiet that will say a great deal about his character!

Thanks for the interesting find G7

 

[TPFKAPFS]

BTW to Rob,

I tried Premie for years at TOS and this is what soured me on Premie sites! I got tired of paying for tired cliques and even more tired jokes.

I love this free board though, as long as we can stop the troll trend.

 

[mikeirbyusa]

BTW to Rob,

I tried Premie for years at TOS and this is what soured me on Premie sites! I got tired of paying for tired cliques and even more tired jokes.

I love this free board though, as long as we can stop the troll trend.

If you like this board you would LOVE premi! Lots of great stuff from Clint-AJ-Rob-Jarrod you don't see here. And a lot of the same posters.

 

[alabamaheel]

If you like this board you would LOVE premi! Lots of great stuff from Clint-AJ-Rob-Jarrod you don't see here. And a lot of the same posters.

If I start out with the monthly do I have to re up every month or does it continue til I cancel?

 

[mikeirbyusa]

If I start out with the monthly do I have to re up every month or does it continue til I cancel?

Think it will be automatic until you cancel.

 

[dadika13]

If you like this board you would LOVE premi! Lots of great stuff from Clint-AJ-Rob-Jarrod you don't see here. And a lot of the same posters.

And very little trolling on Four Corners. The convos are really all about UNC bball and recruiting gems.

 

[DSouthr]

BTW to Rob,

I tried Premie for years at TOS and this is what soured me on Premie sites! I got tired of paying for tired cliques and even more tired jokes.

I love this free board though, as long as we can stop the troll trend.

4 corners is awesome, those folks that are really n to recruiting that for example enjoy 247, would absolutely love the 4Cs. Not near the infighting you see on the free sides. I used to play about equally between Radar and the 4Cs but the premy football board was the only football board I enjoyed, if you are a big time football fan, Blue Heaven is the ultimate for all things UNC football related!

You may wonder why I am not on premy, all I will say is that it is complicated, I could explain it but you would just have to know me to get it. But in a nut shell, I kinda like figuring out stuff on my own without a cheat sheet. But I do need to check back in with rex to compare a couple notes!

 

[RobJones__]

BTW to Rob,

I tried Premie for years at TOS and this is what soured me on Premie sites! I got tired of paying for tired cliques and even more tired jokes.

I love this free board though, as long as we can stop the troll trend.

Not sure I understand correctly. Are you saying that I'm causing cliques to form?

If so, truly not my intention. But as a member of the staff I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't promote the premium content. I like to think the advantage to premium is mainly the information and troll free conversation.

Again, if it came across any way other than just trying to promote the site, my apologies. I'm definitely not trying alienate anyone.

 

[RoseHeel]

I truly wish I had got in on that December deal for premium, It just came and went so fast

Only a matter of time before I scrape up enough to get that yearly subscription with all the "shameless plugging" recently

 

[RobJones__]

I truly wish I had got in on that December deal for premium, It just came and went so fast

Only a matter of time before I scrape up enough to get that yearly subscription with all the "shameless plugging" recently

Ha! Fair enough, I'll slow it down a bit. I'll just have to make my opinions a bit more general.

We have had a few folks make the jump this week to premium and I think they see the value. Whether it's on Four Corners or Tar Heel Radar, we're just glad to have a strong community for conversation.

 

[AlanBlank]

The other side is freekin' awesomne, even with jackasses like me on board! Lotsa REALLY good dialog and posters who know their stuff about hoops. AND the recruiting side of things insiders as well!

I have learned allot over there! And as an example on the recruiting front, the entire HB visits leading up to announcement were REALLY memorable, and FUNNY!

 

[mikeirbyusa]

The other side is freekin' awesomne, even with jackasses like me on board! Lotsa REALLY good dialog and posters who know their stuff about hoops. AND the recruiting side of things insiders as well!

I have learned allot over there! And as an example on the recruiting front, the entire HB visits leading up to announcement were REALLY memorable, and FUNNY!

GREAT! Now NOBODY will sign up knowing you are there!

 

[Ned Cota]

GREAT! Now NOBODY will sign up knowing you are there!

Mike. Keep it on topic now. We can't go insulting people or I'll have to shut this thread down

 

[venom660turbo]

Mike. Keep it on topic now. We can't go insulting people or I'll have to shut this thread down

Bwahaahahahahahahah! I nearly spit my beer all over the place!

 

[TPFKAPFS]

Rob,
I meant that there were too many cliques on TOS. This place has been pretty accepting of new voices, but there you only count once your posts add up

 

[RobJones__]

Rob,
I meant that there were too many cliques on TOS. This place has been pretty accepting of new voices, but there you only count once your posts add up

Makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. I just wanted to make sure that wasn't the impression I was giving.

 

[DSouthr]

Mikey, I was just reminded that there could be another factor soon to be at work:
5* EJ Montgomery from GA (PF '18) is likely to go ahead and commit to AU in the coming weeks (it has been considered just a matter of time --- his sister already plays there). That could crowd things up in a system that's not nearly as inside-oriented as UNC's...

Just keeping it real, I just don't see what most others seem to see in Brooks? I am now seeing height & weights reported on this kid of 6'9" & 205lbs which is about what I suspected rather than the 6'10" 230lbs I have seen listed. While the value of a player can not be determined by his height & weight, it does for me impact how I see him. Yeah, looks like he can shoot some but I don't see him as a physical strength guy inside, maybe more of a Jawad type and no offense to Jawad but I think we need a more physical inside operator after Hicks and Meeks leave. I am much higher on Huffman and Stokes if I am being totally honest.

 

[Green C14]

Question for you Dave:
Do you think the ability to knock down the mid range jumper is a more valuable quality than height and jumping ability in a big man? I'd really like it if they could all be 7 footers and do both but that doesn't seem to be an option.
I like Huffman, Brooks, and Stokes and I'd take all three today if they would commit but if I can have only two Brooks would be my first choice and Huffman would be next. Might be different if we already had a stud big on board to join Tony next year.
Maybe I'm just tired of hearing poor Kennedy being criticized as a "below the rim" big.

 

[Green C14]

But what do I know? lol
I've only seen the short video clips on each. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a resource for entire game films on these kids?

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Just keeping it real, I just don't see what most others seem to see in Brooks? I am now seeing height & weights reported on this kid of 6'9" & 205lbs which is about what I suspected rather than the 6'10" 230lbs I have seen listed. While the value of a player can not be determined by his height & weight, it does for me impact how I see him. Yeah, looks like he can shoot some but I don't see him as a physical strength guy inside, maybe more of a Jawad type and no offense to Jawad but I think we need a more physical inside operator after Hicks and Meeks leave. I am much higher on Huffman and Stokes if I am being totally honest.

All I know is what I've seen on clips. I'd take all 3 of these lower-ranked recruits. Having said that, Huffman looks more like a project than the other 2. All 3 might be but I feel like Stokes might be ready for the next level quickly (although fouling could be a problem), and Brooks might be ready as a soph.

 

[TPFKAPFS]

My take on Brooks is I love the skill and agility for a Big, but I can't decide how much I love him until I can figure out his measurables. The discrepancy in his listed heights and weights is ridiculous. Huffman is a continuity recruit that has the body & motor and just needs to be coached up to contribute as a Jr. and Sr. I think Stokes will contribute immediately and Brooks will provide spot duty as a freshman as well. Ceilings are hard to figure, but I bet Stokes has the highest unless Brooks fills out and explodes.

 

[gary-7]

My take on Brooks is I love the skill and agility for a Big, but I can't decide how much I love him until I can figure out his measurables. The discrepancy in his listed heights and weights is ridiculous. Huffman is a continuity recruit that has the body & motor and just needs to be coached up to contribute as a Jr. and Sr. I think Stokes will contribute immediately and Brooks will provide spot duty as a freshman as well. Ceilings are hard to figure, but I bet Stokes has the highest unless Brooks fills out and explodes.

Thing about big kids is sometimes they mature later physically and/or their coordination catches up with their growth. Inexact science for sure on ceilings (no pun intended ).

 

[dadika13]

All I know is what I've seen on clips. I'd take all 3 of these lower-ranked recruits. Having said that, Huffman looks more like a project than the other 2. All 3 might be but I feel like Stokes might be ready for the next level quickly (although fouling could be a problem), and Brooks might be ready as a soph.

I personally think Brooks is more ready than Stokes right now, but agree with everything else here. Would love any combo of these 3 kids (cuz I don't think we get all 3).

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I personally think Brooks is more ready than Stokes right now, but agree with everything else here. Would love any combo of these 3 kids (cuz I don't think we get all 3).

The suggestion has been floated a few times that Huffman is already a silent commit. I have no idea if that's true. But if so, and if we only get 1 more from this trio, whom would you pick?

 

[gary-7]

The suggestion has been floated a few times that Huffman is already a silent commit. I have no idea if that's true. But if so, and if we only get 1 more from this trio, whom would you pick?

Huffman coming back to campus is always a good sign, but he's got an official coming up to USC... hell, could be just to see the west coast but ya never know.

Personally, after PJ I'm highest on Stokes, but either Brooks or Huffman would be good gets.

 

[dadika13]

The suggestion has been floated a few times that Huffman is already a silent commit. I have no idea if that's true. But if so, and if we only get 1 more from this trio, whom would you pick?

I'd take Stokes for the upside. The thought of him after a few years of training with our staff is very fun.

 

[Sk1310]

I believe huffman was on campus again over the weekend, along with a few others