Tonight's game is concerning they better play well. 3000 miles from home 3 hour time difference it's a recipe for a loss.
Hubert Davis
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Tonight is in Chapel Hill. But you're right, the Heels need to show some consistently good play tonight. They need to take Cal out early and not let up.
It's at home tonight. It really sets up for a good UNC performance. A Cal team that has to travel and a Cal team that refuses to play defense. This should be a game where things come together a bit for UNC. I'll take a 5 pt win, but it would be encouraging if they blow out a pretty bad Cal team.
Drake Powell vs Stojakavich should be a great challenge for Powell if they are matched up. I guess Jackson may get a stab at him too.
I agree. These wins over bottom half ACC teams in a terrible ACC doesn’t change anything for me. We still haven’t beaten anyone of note and have close wins recently against teams we should have blown out. We will find out very soon against Dook where we stand at this point in the season.
My bad guys I'm not sure why I thought it was on the road, I don't have as bad of a feeling now.
It’s less impressive now. And is that really our standard?
the attendance tonight tells you everything you need to know. apathy has set in my friends
Fair weather. Other than the Louisville loss our worst loss is to 12th ranked Michigan State in OT on a neutral floor. Led at Kansas at the end and led against Florida at the end. Only 2 games we looked outclassed were Auburn and Bama and Auburn is the heavy title favorite. This has all been with our 5th year all american in a terrible slump and basically playing 4 against 5 every night with our terrible big men. If we make the tournament (which i think we will) I promise no one wants to see us in their bracket with the idea of RJ getting hot on top of Ian looking unguardable
This team has validated literally everyone's opinion about them. For those who think they're not any good, they fell behind by like 20 to every team they lost to this season. For those who think they can be good, they came back against a lot of those good teams.
And also, this picking and choosing is a bit misleading. Because you can easily say that 2 of their best 3 wins this season came against UCLA and Dayton. Dayton is an absolute disaster right now. They may have to win their conference tournament to get into the tournament. They lost to UMass. And UCLA is in freefall right now too.
Whether someone wants to see UNC or not in the tournament isn't my call and is certainly not relevant to where this program is right now. I also think it's fair to say that UNC being the dangerous 6-12 seeded team in the tournament is probably not where you want this program to be on a consistent basis. And that would make 2 of 3 Hubert led tournament teams for UNC.
The fact that an argument can be made about whether UNC will MAKE THE NCAA TOURNAMENT FIELD OR NOT says alllllll you need to know about the program. Keep in mind, we missed the tourney 2 years ago. We are a mediocre Division 1 program. It sucks.
Which elite program hasnt missed the tournament in the last 5 years besides Kansas and Gonzaga (if you even consider them elite) ? Dook finished 10th in the ACC 4 years ago and missed the tournament. Kentucky went 9-16 that year and has 1 tournament win since 2019. Villanova was the best program in the country 5 years ago and hasnt made the tournament in 3 years. Michigan State has double digit losses each of the last 4 years. This isnt the 90s where you can recruit 5 star players and develop them for 3 years, NIL and the portal basically has you starting from scratch every year and with that is going to come down years unless you catch lightning in a bottle.
You can spin it any way that you'd like. North Carolina basketball should not be struggling to make the NCAA tournament field of the 64 best teams. Ever.
Because??? Somehow UNC is supposed to be impervious to the exact same circumstances that made other blue bloods struggle? I know you hate having Hubert Davis as the coach, but no one, and no program is above struggling from time to time. College sports is experiencing unprecedented changes right now.
I can’t believe how many so easily accept mediocrity for a blueblood program that should never get stuck in mediocrity.
Take Bama football for example, half their base wants to fire a coach that missed the college football playoff by 1 game in his first season. They don’t care how good his record is, they don’t accept underperforming their expectations and he likely feels the heat going into season 2.
Take Bama football for example, half their base wants to fire a coach that missed the college football playoff by 1 game in his first season. They don’t care how good his record is, they don’t accept underperforming their expectations and he likely feels the heat going into season 2.
Well...half of their fans base is nucking futs. If you're that invested, and your identity is that attached to the outcome of sports teams made up of kids from 18-22 that you don't even know, personally... you've got huge problems. "They" don't accept it??? I guess they do. It happened, didn't it?
How many checks are you signing to pay anyone on the staff? You won't even cough up 8 bucks to pay for a membership on here.
Hubert isn’t going anywhere except where he is. This is not a Hubert thing; yes there are things he could do different. More NIL $ and players actually doing what they go over and over in practice during games = success in my book. My 2 cents….go heels
I agree with you 100% there are 65 teams that will make a tournament, the ACC is as weak as it's been ever and we are if not on the bubble we are one loss from it.
The ho hum way of thinking and the we lead Kansas and Florida late attitude as some kind of moral victory is struggle for me to grasp.
Theres no moral victories. The whole point is that we have a fair weather fanbase that has checked out because they think we are Indiana when in reality we have a good team with alot of talent that is simply 1 tier behind the actual title contenders this year (mostly due to a flawed roster) which is what we were last year and fans can’t accept in this day and age you arent going to be the heavyweight every year
I disagree we are about 5 tiers behind the title contenders.
We stink for our standards and I dont like it, and you shouldn't either.
I was pissed when we lost you Clemson at home, I was pissed when our streak for finishing top 3 in the ACC was broke, I hate when our steak for making the dance was lost in was mad when our streak of 20 win seasons was broke, and now we are talking about we lead Florida and Kansas late.
Sad times for Carolina basketball, mark it down if we don't end the Hubert Davis experiment we will be UCLA or Indiana in 5 years.
I am late-50's and was fortunate enough to grow up watching Dean Smith coach UNC basketball. He created a tradition of excellence that has dropped off considerably. I guess I am a spoiled fan, but I expect to look at bracket projections in January/February to see whether the Heels get the 1 seed in the east or south or will get shipped out west as a 2 seed, not to see UNC in "last four in".
Through the 70's and into the 90's Carolina basketball was fun to watch. The players changed but the execution, the style of play remained consistent. The constant was the man on the bench.
There is no question that college basketball has changed (and not for the better in my opinion) but UNC is a brand that should a standard-bearer. I did not think Hubert was the right hire at the time and he has not shown enough to change my mind. I thought when Roy stepped down they should have hired the best coach available FULL STOP.
I feel sad for Tar heel fans who did not experience those years, regretfully I don't see a return. Coach Smith was about family and development and today's product is about immediate returns.
Through the 70's and into the 90's Carolina basketball was fun to watch. The players changed but the execution, the style of play remained consistent. The constant was the man on the bench.
There is no question that college basketball has changed (and not for the better in my opinion) but UNC is a brand that should a standard-bearer. I did not think Hubert was the right hire at the time and he has not shown enough to change my mind. I thought when Roy stepped down they should have hired the best coach available FULL STOP.
I feel sad for Tar heel fans who did not experience those years, regretfully I don't see a return. Coach Smith was about family and development and today's product is about immediate returns.
Well after every timeout today Stanford got a quality look and after every timeout UNC had no ball movement and a trash shot or turnover. Hubert was severely out coached in this one as usual.
he’s gotta go…this shit is so offensive.
I think it’s a bit of an uphill climb to get to mediocre at this point TBH
If we’re talking decades, I still enjoyed Heels hops and figuratively lived and died with the team every game and watched every one I could thru the ‘10s except the Duke games sometimes because I’d be too nervous
Ever since the hub experiment and especially this year - I have barely watched them play, usually don’t know when or who they play next. I’m not going to get false - excited and optimistic about them beating a couple dog meat teams. And they just aren’t fun to watch. It seems you see more strategy and hustle in a serious pickup game or high school game
What would the hub supporters hold up as proof he’s a good coach, doing well? Should’ve lost to Dayton without a near miracle. Lost every game to any team close to them in talent, and several where Heels were more talented. With horrid coaching at least a few should bounce your way just out of luck or guys on the team having a crazy hot night which almost always happens AGAINST us but I can’t recall the last time that has happened FOR us when it mattered
If not for the miraculous hot run of Caleb Love Brady Manek and his teammates - this program would be on the shot list of most woefully underperforming legit big time programs in memory.
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the small ball against a bigger line up and the use of Lubin over Wash is stupid
Agreed. But being in a situation where you even have to choose between our set of “bigs” especially when the whole coaching staff hasn’t been able to get more out of them, coach them up - is what is really long term full season stupid
Coach can only scream and stomp his feet; Davis has no clue on how to coach a team. Wilson going to UNC is funny, would you rather play for a coach that can coach at Kensucky or for a losing team/coach at UNC.
This team is unbelievably flawed, but Mr Cade Tyson is the biggest disappointment of all! He can’t shoot, can’t guard, super slow…just awful!
Biggest disappointment is the coaching and player use .. imo
I think Tyson would have been better if we had a true center & inside scoring ... but we don't
Objective fans saw this as the likely scenario when the hire was made. And here we are. Mired in mediocrity and underperforming against teams with less talent because of a coaching deficiency. How many games have you felt like HD really out coached the opposing coach? For me it hasn’t been very often.
But the Carolina arrogance of hiring a Carolina guy and then hiring an all Carolina staff has led us here so nobody to blame but those from within the family that made this happen.
Does bubba have the guts to correct this at the end of the season?
But the Carolina arrogance of hiring a Carolina guy and then hiring an all Carolina staff has led us here so nobody to blame but those from within the family that made this happen.
Does bubba have the guts to correct this at the end of the season?
Should he? Probably so.
Will he? Probably not.
Hubert isn’t worth even half a flying F at this point. our execution on either end outside of a timeout should be eye opening. it’s pathetic. he should have never got the job. he’s Roy’s DEI hire experiment and it didn’t work. it’s the facts. call it what it is. cut our losses and move on. at this point, we’d be better suited pulling the chord now so recruits and possible portal guys know we are serious about stopping the bullshit immediately and will be a force with a reputable coach next season.
everybody clap it up for Hubert absolutely shitting the bed, and double clap for the dumb asses that put him in this position to fail.
everybody clap it up for Hubert absolutely shitting the bed, and double clap for the dumb asses that put him in this position to fail.
Yeah that was a game we absolutely could not afford to lose.
Wake beat Stanford by 15 in Winston a few days ago, and we have to go there on Tuesday. I'm not feeling too good about that game now.
if you are serious about UNC basketball, please go watch the Hubert post game presser. If it doesn’t affirm how inept he is as a coach, then i don’t know what will. When asked any specific question around a play, he always defers to “it’s the little things” or i’ll have to rewatch the film to see what happened. Some of these questions were around plays late in the game in which we called a TO to navigate and he’s can’t recall what our game plan was on plays or defenses he called like 20 minutes before that? Are we serious at this point. He literally can’t even answer questions like an educated basketball coach, much less a bullshitter who will at least speak so convincingly you at least admire the effort.
