You full of sh&t with this dei hire bullshit! It’s a flawed team but the Cade Tyson addition is the worst of all!! Can’t shoot! Can’t guard!! Turtle slow…just ass!! Wtf you talking about!
Hubert Davis
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I understand that we're not top tier this year, and it's frustrating. And we've had more than one season where we were a lower seed in the tournament...even with DES as our coach. But dook IS top tier this year ... and that REALLY sucks! I should be more mature than that, but I guess I'm not, lol. Go Heels!
Hubert is not getting it done and as such he should be on the hot seat…that has absolutely nothing to do with DEI!! But go ahead and hire a white coach, all white staff…and while u at it bring in alllll white players. Your problem solved.
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Whether Hubert gets sacked this year, next year, or finally rights the ship, one thing I know is that next time we better stop with this "in the family" hiring crap. There are no more Roy Williams out there, so let's go after the cream of the crop no matter who ... well, unless they are associated with dook in any way. LOL
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Carolina basketball used to be a bright spot for me and a source of pride. It is neither. It is quickly becoming a disappointment in my life that I have no more room for. I've been a Carolina basketball fan for over four decades and this is the most apathetic I have ever felt toward the school, the team and the sport of college basketball. Something has to change for me or I just won't be watching very much longer...
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Good thing Hubert gave NIL money to him instead of finding a competent big.
Another poster mentioned Pat Kelsey. I do think he could be a big time up and coming coach. What he’s done with a depleted roster at Louisville by flipping the roster over the summer and now near the top of the conference is pretty impressive. And Kelsey was a good coach at the lower level too. Seems like a likeable dude as well.
PAY THE MAN.......BINGO!!!!
"Family" this, "Family" that. If Roy wanted to step down, fine, but have a legitimate search for a replacement. Hubert Davis came from sitting behind a desk at ESPN to an assistant spot, coaching the JV team, to being the head coach in just a few seasons. Made no sense then and here we are.
I could not agree more with the arrogance reference. Hit the nail on the head.
It is very painful to watch what this program has become.
Gary said if its not from the family it will no longer be Carolina Basketball though
It is NO longer Carolina Basketball.
Exactly this ain’t UNC basketball anymore…
If you willing to pay to play it would be great no matter who coaches .... its working out good in derham ... UK with 11 new players i don't think pope is a great coach but UK pays to play ..
Jay Wright is only 63. Does the appeal of UNC make him consider coming back?
It's kind of losing that Carolina bball vibe with hubcap now .. just saying.
But in all fairness the entire landscape of college "amateur" athletics has changed. By the same token the way this team has been coached is certainly not traditional UNC bball.
HD will eventually be a very good head coach. the problem is that UNC (or any top tier ACC program) is not the place for a newbie with a learning curve. i like HD a lot and wish him great success somewhere, and maybe he'll return to carolina someday when he's ready.
i WOULD FEEL BETTER IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE UNC HAND GRENADE OR HORSE SHOE TEAMS...
(Sorry for the caps, had cap lock on and didn't feel like re-writting)
Al, is it even traditional basketball as applied to any level or any program?
i don’t get the offense at all if you’re speaking about carolina…hubert doesn’t even press so wtf is the point of collecting this roster?
Gary's a ****ing clown, he also said Platek should start over Coby and that we would be fine with Jwash as our center.
I'm sure we'd all love for there to be some Tar Heel alums at the top of the coaching game right now, but that is not the case. I mean, who is even out there with UNC ties: Wes, Stack, King. I wouldn't want any of these guys taking over if Hubert were sacked this year or next.
Not sure what ya trying to say D. My point being the personnel use .. ie overall coaching philosophy does not seem to me to be traditional UNC bball. Very limited use of pressure defense with a very athletic team and a fairly deep bench and a head scratching lack of use of what should have been a great pg in deference to an undersized legacy player that has an affinity for dribbling laterally and looking for his shot first. Record speaks for itself hoss. This is a team that was ranked #1 in the country a year ago preseason. We're not even in the top 50 now and will likely not even sniff an NCAAT bid. Is that Carolina bball? You tell me.
How can we say that? 4-5 years in and I don’t see that he’s learned anything or gotten better. And this is after and entire life of coaching or playing with some of the greatest basketball coaches and minds of all time at college and pro level
i don’t get the lack of press…this is a wild neglect for me.
it’s a form of “forty minutes of hell” for me until…
I highly doubt that Hubert would coach anywhere else. I don't think he'd want to coach anywhere else.
Clearly you’re a R word… it’s unfortunate! Just call him an inept coach and move forward.
I would bet he will be back in the broadcast booth when this debacle is over.
I would be surprised to see him back as a TV analyst in the future since he's not capable of analyzing his own team in the present .. but that's just my opinion.
I'm not out on Hubert. He is getting another year regardless in my opinion, but this years finish and next year is the finish line if he is the guy. I'm not a fan of the revolving door fan takes, all teams, not saying UNC only, can him when they struggle early, next up coach. Rinse and repeat.
I think he is a mixed bag at this point.
I think he is a mixed bag at this point.
If Matt Doherty got a job after UNC, I don't see why Hubert can't. I say he gets a pity hire before a return to broadcasting. There's some coaches with worse track records that are still coaching after their first hiring. A few programs would be willing to take a chance.
At first when HD was hired I was frustrated. it didn't sit right that they hired someone with no Head Coaching experience (yes, I know KU hired Roy w/no HC experience), and (if it is true) that Roy was allowed to "hand-pick" his successor, seemingly carrying more weight than Cunningham, the man who is literally paid to perform that responsibility. I felt that Chapel Hill would be the most-coveted and desirable destination for a head coach. I felt kind of deflated after the process. I also wish that HD kept Coach Robinson around.
I then warmed-up to HD in the 22 season as I saw the team start coming together prior to the Heels getting hot and going on a miracle run. IMO they were likely separated from a national championship by an ankle that just couldn't take it anymore.
But even though his resume includes a national championship appearance and an ACC regular season title and another sweet 16 appearance, I understand the frustration surrounding his coaching. I don't get to watch much of any games, but I did watch the second half of the Stanford game. There was a lack of discipline on offense; no movement from the offense. Even EC seemed to be standing still at times. But the lack of discipline was evident, especially defensively on dead ball situations. They were running the same inbounds play each time resulting in the same outcome. There just didn't seem to be any adjustments.
I don't want to throw out names as I hope HD figures it out. And his entire staff is from the UNC family tree, which is a nice gesture. But it is a pipe dream to think it can continue that way. I'm no arborist, but it makes sense to me that a tree is most healthy when all of its branches are able to grow at an equal pace and where the nourishment from the roots is not confined to the trunk and a single main branch of the said tree.
If any of the assistant coaches have objections to HD's coaching, I would hope that they would strongly consider the tough decision of stepping away from their otherwise dream job, to pursue similar or better professional opportunities at other institutions and as such leave the door open for them to return at a later time. Because if HD's tenure gets uglier, any angst may unfortunately get attached to his entire staff.
I then warmed-up to HD in the 22 season as I saw the team start coming together prior to the Heels getting hot and going on a miracle run. IMO they were likely separated from a national championship by an ankle that just couldn't take it anymore.
But even though his resume includes a national championship appearance and an ACC regular season title and another sweet 16 appearance, I understand the frustration surrounding his coaching. I don't get to watch much of any games, but I did watch the second half of the Stanford game. There was a lack of discipline on offense; no movement from the offense. Even EC seemed to be standing still at times. But the lack of discipline was evident, especially defensively on dead ball situations. They were running the same inbounds play each time resulting in the same outcome. There just didn't seem to be any adjustments.
I don't want to throw out names as I hope HD figures it out. And his entire staff is from the UNC family tree, which is a nice gesture. But it is a pipe dream to think it can continue that way. I'm no arborist, but it makes sense to me that a tree is most healthy when all of its branches are able to grow at an equal pace and where the nourishment from the roots is not confined to the trunk and a single main branch of the said tree.
If any of the assistant coaches have objections to HD's coaching, I would hope that they would strongly consider the tough decision of stepping away from their otherwise dream job, to pursue similar or better professional opportunities at other institutions and as such leave the door open for them to return at a later time. Because if HD's tenure gets uglier, any angst may unfortunately get attached to his entire staff.
Here the problem if you keep him after this year. If this year continues in the direction it is what does another year do?
Let's say he improves next year and finishes 4th or 5th in the ACC and makes the tournament but lose in the 2nd round. What then? How do you not fire him after this poor year, and then he improves to a little better but not to Carolina standards, how can you fire him then?
The problem for Hubert is inconsistency are not the type of program that is going to be okay with being a middle of the road team that has one decent year and then a shit year.
When Kansas hired Roy and Carolina hiring Hubert is apples to oranges. But you can bet your ass of Self brought in some ex-Kansas player to stick on the bench with no coaching experience and then 8 years later tried to turn the program over to him that fan base would have a meltdown as they should.
