Hubert offers 3-star shooter

[What Would Jesus Do?]

We don't have anyone on the roster capable of starting at PF for a good ACC team. We also don't have anyone on the roster capable of starting at SF for a good ACC team.

That's why there is no much uneasiness over this scholarship being wasted on Dunlap. We have very real needs for our starting lineup for the coming season, and Hubert is wasting time on a kid who will sit the bench until he transfers out.

That matches my assessment, except I'm more optimistic about Withers than you are.

Here's what's puzzling me . . . If our most critical needs are at SF and PF, why do we always seem to be talking about back court guys?

I'm not reassured when folks here tell me we'll be fine with Dunn, Wilcher or Jackson (if he reclassifies) handling SF duties. I still expect great things from Wilcher (despite sliding in the rankings), but unless he's grown a good bit, it's hard to imagine him getting more than brief minutes at SF.

I know there are a lot of people - possibly including HD - who like a 3-guard lineup. I like having that as an option, but not being forced into it.

6'2 - Cadeau
6'0 - RJ
6'4 - Wilcher

Lots of talent there, and RJ, at least, is a proven scorer. But short. For that to work, we need a really strong front court.

I'm hoping the trio of

Armando
Washington
Withers

...will be good enough. But Washington has yet to turn the corner, while you and others doubt whether Withers can deliver starter-level performance. Not to mention that there's nobody to slide in in case of injury or foul trouble.

What's your take on this strange focus on the back court and back court guys who can (but maybe shouldn't) play SF?

 

[tarwhiz]

If we don't pick up anyone else, then Withers would start. But I think it's almost certain we'll pick up someone else to start instead. I think Withers will get 15-20 minutes a game primarily as a backup 4, but he also has the versatility to play the three 3 or 5 for a few minutes.

That's why I'm pretty happy with him as a bench piece. Versatile shooter with size and sufficient athletic ability, two years remaining, and can serve as an emergency center if injury strikes (he played center mostly as a freshman in his best season, and is about the same size as Manek). Removes our need to add another post player in case of Washington injuries, while being more useful than a backup center would've been. I don't think we'll be thrilled if he's starting every game though.

But again, we're looking to add at least 2-3 more transfers. Just be patient; he's unlikely to start.

I like the Withers add as a bench piece. He has two years and really no where to go unless he wants to sit out a year, so Hubert should not be beholden to starting him.
I still want Mcgbako as the starting 4 or Ingram. I want Wilcher to play the 3, but like the luxury of playing a conventional 3 at times.

 

[tarheel0910]

I’d believe his lies over good intel from an insufferable prick like yourself. You’re so awful, I’d welcome Grover back with open arms if it meant you’d go away.

I’m starting to doubt you have any friend on the staff. No way a guy like you has friends.

I called this guy out when he started calling for regular posters to be banned. Nice to see that others are finally catching on. As far as his "intel" goes, I haven't seen him post anything that you couldn't get from a premium board on TOS or that's just public info.

ETA: And I can't speak about the accuracy of @NBBears20124ACHAMPS basketball info, but his football intel has been spot on.

 

[tarheel0910]

That's why I'm pretty happy with him as a bench piece.

Bench? You must have been asleep the past two years.

 

[TarHeelFanJ]

I have no issue with him being our 12th man/scholarship if he decides to sign with us.

 

[dadika13]

I called this guy out when he started calling for regular posters to be banned. Nice to see that others are finally catching on. As far as his "intel" goes, I haven't seen him post anything that you couldn't get from a premium board on TOS or that's just public info.

ETA: And I can't speak about the accuracy of @NBBears20124ACHAMPS basketball info, but his football intel has been spot on.

Everything he's said is what is being said on TOS premium. Which is fine, both sites steal intel from each other all the time but him claiming that it's from a "friend on the staff" is lame.

 

[DSouthr]

I called this guy out when he started calling for regular posters to be banned. Nice to see that others are finally catching on. As far as his "intel" goes, I haven't seen him post anything that you couldn't get from a premium board on TOS or that's just public info.

ETA: And I can't speak about the accuracy of @NBBears20124ACHAMPS basketball info, but his football intel has been spot on.

I caught on to that guy early on, he is a liar plain and simple. I actually do not care if folks try to bolster their perception by claiming they have connections or backgrounds they do not have. I am kind of what the heck if it floats your boat no big deal IMO. But when you lay out this nonsense falsity of lies and then use it to talk down and demean others, then I have a problem with it and that guy crossed that line very quickly as a poster here. I mean the man said he had a friend on that UNC bench and proceeds to trash the entire coaching staff, even starts a thread with the title this may cost my friend his job? You all have to know it does not work like that, if in fact he, you or anyone else actually did have a friend on that bench, the information you would glean if spoken at all publicly is delivered very gently rather than this bull in a china shop nonsense. Ask AJ if I am wrong...

Glad to see others are now catching on to this dude's game and are speaking out about it. Someone backed him in to a corner the other day, laughed my butt off, he said well, you wouldn't say that to my friends face, the reply was sure I would, set up a meeting and I will be glad to be there, kudos to that poster for that reply, anytime the guy wants to set up a meeting between myself and his so called friend on the bench, I will be happy to make the drive and be on time for the meet time and date, I am pretty sure there are several on this board that would be happy to do the same!

 

[DaveChapelle]

Everything he's said is what is being said on TOS premium. Which is fine, both sites steal intel from each other all the time but him claiming that it's from a "friend on the staff" is lame.

I don't have premium on any site. I used to have premium here when Clint ran the board. I do have a friend on the staff. My walls are covered in photos of friends and family. He and his wife are right there, including us together at a wedding in 2022. But I'm not going to directly drop his name with so many vindictive a-holes on the internet. If the board consensus is they don't want anyone sharing news from the staff, then I'll stop posting news from the staff and keep it to myself.

Now that I think about it, you can literally go back to last week and see I asked whether Ian Jackson made his visit or not. If I had premium on IC, why would I have asked that question?

 

[gauchoheel]

That matches my assessment, except I'm more optimistic about Withers than you are.

Here's what's puzzling me . . . If our most critical needs are at SF and PF, why do we always seem to be talking about back court guys?

I'm not reassured when folks here tell me we'll be fine with Dunn, Wilcher or Jackson (if he reclassifies) handling SF duties. I still expect great things from Wilcher (despite sliding in the rankings), but unless he's grown a good bit, it's hard to imagine him getting more than brief minutes at SF.

I know there are a lot of people - possibly including HD - who like a 3-guard lineup. I like having that as an option, but not being forced into it.

6'2 - Cadeau
6'0 - RJ
6'4 - Wilcher

Lots of talent there, and RJ, at least, is a proven scorer. But short. For that to work, we need a really strong front court.

I'm hoping the trio of

Armando
Washington
Withers

...will be good enough. But Washington has yet to turn the corner, while you and others doubt whether Withers can deliver starter-level performance. Not to mention that there's nobody to slide in in case of injury or foul trouble.

What's your take on this strange focus on the back court and back court guys who can (but maybe shouldn't) play SF?

We're pursuing Ingram, Knecht, and Mgbako, so there is a mix of front court guys. Who knows who else hey could be contacting too. Hopefully a couple other good wings enter the portal in the next few weeks.

 

[Tarheels39]

Nickel, Puff, McKoy, Styles, and Shaver were told by Jeff Lebo that they had no chance of increased minutes next season. It was Hubert's way of running them off to open up scholarships to fix the roster and save his job.

Brady Dunlap is the type of guy Hubert has proven he will not play bc he's a defensive liability. If Dunlap commits, he will end up in the transfer portal.

What did Lebo tell Love that pushed him to leave? Were they going to reign in his shot selection?

 

[gunslingerdick]

. If the board consensus is they don't want anyone sharing news from the staff, then I'll stop posting news from the staff and keep it to myself.

Just to be clear, I think the board consensus is that we don’t want you sharing news from the staff. Or really, anything at all.

 

[DaveChapelle]

What did Lebo tell Love that pushed him to leave? Were they going to reign in his shot selection?

I have no knowledge of what happened with Love. Everyone just seemed to accept he was leaving once the season ended.

 

[DaveChapelle]

We're pursuing Ingram, Knecht, and Mgbako, so there is a mix of front court guys. Who knows who else hey could be contacting too. Hopefully a couple other good wings enter the portal in the next few weeks.

We're definitely going to need some talented forwards to enter the portal before May 11th. Or we're going to need some major NIL bags dropped immediately to help Hubert change some of those current recruits' minds.

 

[dadika13]

My walls are covered in photos of friends and family. He and his wife are right there, including us together at a wedding in 2022.

Lebo right now:

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

We're pursuing Ingram, Knecht, and Mgbako, so there is a mix of front court guys. Who knows who else hey could be contacting too. Hopefully a couple other good wings enter the portal in the next few weeks.

I thought Knecht committed to Oregon. He looked like a good player to me, and could start or back up at SF.

I wonder if he picked Oregon after it looked like we were more interested in Ingram? Or maybe O is more likely to start him?

 

[DaveChapelle]

I thought Knecht committed to Oregon. He looked like a good player to me, and could start or back up at SF.

I wonder if he picked Oregon after it looked like we were more interested in Ingram? Or maybe O is more likely to start him?

He has yet to commit anywhere. He is expected to commit to Oregon.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Lebo right now:

Maybe Dave is Crazy Joe Davola.

 

[ChiShankCity]

Can we re-name this thread to "Hubert offers worst basketball player in the history of history"?

 

[gobblercalls]

Just to be clear, I think the board consensus is that we don’t want you sharing news from the staff. Or really, anything at all.

except a fond farewell!

 

[imajericho]

DaveChapelle, how come they ran those players off to free up their scholarships if they didn't know if they have viable replacements for them? What does it hurt if they remained if we might have 3 open scholarships next season? Did he envision getting people we haven't gotten? Was he expecting reclassifications or transfers? Didn't wanna get caught without scholarships like happened with GG?

What was the upside to wanting them gone?

 

[DaveChapelle]

Can we re-name this thread to "Hubert offers worst basketball player in the history of history"?

That was the Will Shaver offer thread shortly after Hubert became head coach.

 

[DaveChapelle]

DaveChapelle, how come they ran those players off to free up their scholarships if they didn't know if they have viable replacements for them? What does it hurt if they remained if we might have 3 open scholarships next season? Did he envision getting people we haven't gotten? Was he expecting reclassifications or transfers? Didn't wanna get caught without scholarships like happened with GG?

What was the upside to wanting them gone?

If everyone returned, we had no one capable of stepping into the starting 3 and 4 spots and making the team better and we'd be out of scholarships. Everyone that got run off was either a bad shooter, a bad defender, injury prone, or a combination of those things. The season we just had has ticked off the big boosters and put Hubert squarely on the hot seat. He can't afford another NIT season. Heck he can't afford another bubble team.

The staff saw how successful they were on the recruiting trail in December and January. There was confidence they'd be able to land some immediate impact starters and good shooters if they just had scholarships to work the portal. As of this moment, it appears that confidence was misplaced.

 

[WhatTheHeel?]

It's a pretty sad statement about college basketball and UNC if we are "running players off" who were not disciplinary problems nor broke team rules.

 

[tarwhiz]

I don't have premium on any site. I used to have premium here when Clint ran the board. I do have a friend on the staff. My walls are covered in photos of friends and family. He and his wife are right there, including us together at a wedding in 2022. But I'm not going to directly drop his name with so many vindictive a-holes on the internet. If the board consensus is they don't want anyone sharing news from the staff, then I'll stop posting news from the staff and keep it to myself.

Now that I think about it, you can literally go back to last week and see I asked whether Ian Jackson made his visit or not. If I had premium on IC, why would I have asked that question?

Tell Sean hi!
Hope your leaked " info" doesn't cost May his job, like Dennis Marshall spouting off about things he obviously heard Kendall saying in private, cost Kendall Marshall his job.

 

[tarwhiz]

Maybe Dave is Crazy Joe Davola.

That Clown was freaking scary!😵

 

[FlaTarHeel]

It's a pretty sad statement about college basketball and UNC if we are "running players off" who were not disciplinary problems nor broke team rules.

Best response to this post. 👌

 

[DaveChapelle]

like Dennis Marshall spouting off about things he obviously heard Kendall saying in private, cost Kendall Marshall his job.

MrTiger had nothing at all to do with the decision not to retain Kendall after Hubert was hired.

Since you're only interested in spreading lies and trolling, you're blocked.

 

[DaveChapelle]

It's a pretty sad statement about college basketball and UNC if we are "running players off" who were not disciplinary problems nor broke team rules.

Just part of the new NCAA free agency created by the transfer eligibility rule change and the NIL rule.

Just wait until August when the new unlimited official visits for each recruit starts. Kids visiting a different school every weekend to party and get higher NIL offers. Staff pulling their hair out trying to coordinate 5 times as many official visits as usual.

It's full on free agency and if you aren't keeping your program winning at the level the big money boosters expect, you won't have your job long.

 

[tarwhiz]

MrTiger had nothing at all to do with the decision not to retain Kendall after Hubert was hired.

Since you're only interested in spreading lies and trolling, you're blocked.

Atta baby! C ya

 

[dtodd4475]

Chapelle is not absent of having takes I would like to hear. He is lacking any sense of maturity and seems miserable. Quick to lash out and thus a easy ignore . Keep telling how "my boy" is telling me... 😆

 

[tarwhiz]

MrTiger had nothing at all to do with the decision not to retain Kendall after Hubert was hired.

Since you're only interested in spreading lies and trolling, you're blocked.

So it is Sean May huh?😏 No denial

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

It's a pretty sad statement about college basketball and UNC if we are "running players off" who were not disciplinary problems nor broke team rules.

My how times have changed.

I got hammered a few weeks back when I speculated that some of our players might have been "invited to leave." Now phrases like "running players off" don't even raise an eyebrow.

 

[imajericho]

My how times have changed.

I got hammered a few weeks back when I speculated that some of our players might have been "invited to leave." Now phrases like "running players off" don't even raise an eyebrow.

Did you forget people talking about pulling scholarships or running players off last year to get GG in last year if he wanted to reclass? Our fans are very swingy.

 

[MUgrad86]

Just part of the new NCAA free agency created by the transfer eligibility rule change and the NIL rule.

Just wait until August when the new unlimited official visits for each recruit starts. Kids visiting a different school every weekend to party and get higher NIL offers. Staff pulling their hair out trying to coordinate 5 times as many official visits as usual.

It's full on free agency and if you aren't keeping your program winning at the level the big money boosters expect, you won't have your job long.

It shouldn't effect the staff too much. Schools are still limited how many official visitors they can host. Players are the ones who are unlimited. At least that's the way it was explained to me. But, to be clear, I have NO inside info.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Did you forget people talking about pulling scholarships or running players off last year to get GG in last year if he wanted to reclass? Our fans are very swingy.

No one doubts GG's talent, but his numbers weren't that great at SC. TS% = 47.4.

I wonder how he would have done here? Would we have used him effectively?

 

[DaSheed]

No one doubts GG's talent, but his numbers weren't that great at SC. TS% = 47.4.

I wonder how he would have done here? Would we have used him effectively?

We would have used him effectively. Hubert wouldn’t have 😉

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

We would have used him effectively. Hubert wouldn’t have 😉

Ouch!

 

[DSouthr]

Did you forget people talking about pulling scholarships or running players off last year to get GG in last year if he wanted to reclass? Our fans are very swingy.

I don't like the phrase UNC running players off and I do not believe that is happening. Yall been following Mack's PCs during the spring camp to the recap of the spring game? Mack talks in terms of being very candid with his players and points to the portal as to why now days you have to tell them straight how much PT they are looking at based on what they have so far done in the program. If that is not what the player feels he should get then that player really should transfer and the staff will help them find a landing spot.

Example, did Hubert run Puff off? Puff does not in any way help your program when he is sitting on the side lines in street clothes unable to play due to yet another injury. Is there any one of you that could start Puff and feel the spot is in good hands? Puff been in the program 3yrs, do you start him or do you go get a kid that can start realizing that in 3yrs you have not been able to count on Puff to be available? Do you lie to Puff and tell him you are going to start him, are you risking the program success by starting him and have no real back up? Or do you tell Puff, sorry son but I have to go get a starter at your position, I really do not have a choice, I want you to know that now because if that is major problem for you we can give you time to find another program that may be able to give you a starting guarantee that I can't. That isn't running a kid off, that is being straight with him. That is more the tone these discussions are going in, your PT could well be less than it has been, depending on who joins the team. You can battle it out or you can battle elsewhere but I do need to know where your head is.

Being straight with a kid is not running him off, did Roy run off Drew by telling him Kendal was taking over the starting PG role, did Hubert run Garcia off when he was told that Brady was going to continue to start even after Garcia was back able to play? Running a kid off is telling him that he is not good enough to play for this program and will not be on our roster next season, the scholly will not be renewed, I do NOT believe Hubert or anyone on his staff is or has told kids that.

 

[Archer2]

We would have used him effectively. Hubert wouldn’t have 😉

Touché.

 

[dtodd4475]

We would have used him effectively. Hubert wouldn’t have 😉

I disagree there. GG would of been a perfect fit. Water under the bridge, but that kid fit that roster in my opinion.