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Texas has a new young coach. He is part of a group of newbies (rebel like revolutionaries) to the college game. He gameplans a scheme to take away Carolinas best shooter (Paige). Texas wins. Carolina has a HOF coach. He doesnt feel the need to gameplan schemes to match opponents strengths. Carolina loses. What am i trying to say here? Just an observation of what HAPPENED SATURDAY.
 
Texas has a new young coach. He is part of a group of newbies (rebel like revolutionaries) to the college game. He gameplans a scheme to take away Carolinas best shooter (Paige). Texas wins. Carolina has a HOF coach. He doesnt feel the need to gameplan schemes to match opponents strengths. Carolina loses. What am i trying to say here? Just an observation of what HAPPENED SATURDAY.
my recommendation is : duck when the arrows start coming.
 
Everybody knows Roy is stubborn I don't think that's a secret from anybody ..it sucks to lose that game ..it sucks a lot actually ..I don't think it's so much that he 'doesn't feel the need to game plan' as much as maybe Texas game plan was better than ours ..or maybe Texas just over preformed their game plan more than we did ..if we happen to play Texas in the tournament I feel more than confident that we will win
 
Texas DEFINITELY "over-performed" on Saturday. That much was crystal clear.
 
Texas has a new young coach. He is part of a group of newbies (rebel like revolutionaries) to the college game. He gameplans a scheme to take away Carolinas best shooter (Paige). Texas wins. Carolina has a HOF coach. He doesnt feel the need to gameplan schemes to match opponents strengths. Carolina loses. What am i trying to say here? Just an observation of what HAPPENED SATURDAY.
Nothing in their game plan was at all surprising or unique, and that wasn't why we lost by any stretch of the imagination. Going back to Dean Smith, we do what we do and make others game-plan for us. That's not to say Roy doesn't make specific points of emphases for individual opponents --- he does --- but our goal is to force our style and tempo.

Now that being said, and as much as I love Roy, you guys know my #1 critique is his stubbornness, especially in not being multiple enough on defense. And while I think that is a fair criticism, as far as "game plans" for this game, it's awfully hard to plan for a mass stomach flu and exams, much less to put a game plan in place without a full practice.

Keep in mind, Texas (to their credit) played out of their minds, yet despite all that happened, if a no-brainer, right-in-front-of-the-ref, obvious foul call is made in the last sequence, Marcus is shooting FTs with two-to-make-one for a win. --- I would like our chances. Again, I criticized Roy in another thread for a couple of in-game moves --- but I'll also say that if we come into that game healthy and with normal practice we win it 19 out of 20 times.
 
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I thought he did a good job switching up the defenses but didn't do it enough. Then again, he probably didn't like the offensive boards we were giving up but to me we were giving them up anyway so what did it matter.

I don't know that they gameplanned to take away Paige that much. Felix just did a good job on him and our guards didn't individually do a good enough job on their guys. Great game from them. Good game from us. They win. That is what happens when you play talented teams that play extremely well.
 
I thought he did a good job switching up the defenses but didn't do it enough. Then again, he probably didn't like the offensive boards we were giving up but to me we were giving them up anyway so what did it matter.

I don't know that they gameplanned to take away Paige that much. Felix just did a good job on him and our guards didn't individually do a good enough job on their guys. Great game from them. Good game from us. They win. That is what happens when you play talented teams that play extremely well.
Roy will FINALLY change up on Defense. It WORKS. THEN ROY WONT DO IT ANYMORE!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH He goes back to the same man to man that was getting KILLED by a hot shooting team. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
Our kids just came out of exams and a week of practice interrupted by most of the team being ill, difficulty in practice due to that too, not enough guys well enough...and then had to go play a game in Austin...
 
You can game plan and adjust all you want but if it is not executed properly the results are not going to be fun. And game planning and adjustments are great but when a shooter gets red hot he isn't gonna be stopped, Texas had 2 guys go red hot on us, it happens.

I don't know why it is so hard for fans to give credit to where it is due, those Texas players just played way over anything they had done so far this season and very likely over anything they will do the remainder of this season. Give those Texas kids their due, it was not so much what we did wrong as it was what they did right.
 
Roy does not shoot the basketball. We missed several wide open looks in the second half and Texas was hot. If the official does their job and calls the fall at the end of the game at worse we go to overtime and probably pull it out. Paige got tossed under the basket trying to box out.
 
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You can game plan and adjust all you want but if it is not executed properly the results are not going to be fun. And game planning and adjustments are great but when a shooter gets red hot he isn't gonna be stopped, Texas had 2 guys go red hot on us, it happens.

I don't know why it is so hard for fans to give credit to where it is due, those Texas players just played way over anything they had done so far this season and very likely over anything they will do the remainder of this season. Give those Texas kids their due, it was not so much what we did wrong as it was what they did right.
It wouldn't be difficult to buy into the notion of a team just playing "out of their minds" against UNC. After all, we're a top legendary program. But for how long can you just shrug your shoulders and say, "whatever, they were just not going to be denied tonight" when the same thing happens OVER & OVER & OVER & OVER AGAIN? I mean, we see this movie 6-8 times a year (just in Ls; that excludes the many times we overcome teams playing way over their heads), every single year....and have for 45+ years! I don't see this kind of thing happening to Dook and Kentucky, for example of similar level programs, THIS often. At some point, when the same thing keeps rearing its ugly head a disproportionate amount of the time against UNC relative to other top programs, then some treatment of WHY it keeps happening has to be given some thought.

Make no mistake, this is not a "Fire Roy" post. I wouldn't have anyone other than Roy leading the UNC program until Roy decides he doesn't want to do it any longer. But perhaps the time has come to not be so insular and inward-looking as a program....spend more time picking the scabs of the opponent in preparation...not to our own developmental detriment in terms of optimizing what WE do, but be able to put the clamps down, strategically speaking, when a guy such as Felix, for example, begins to "feel it" and starts having a career day/night. Seemingly, neither our coaches or our kids recognize when a guy is going off, and we don't do anything designed to stop it....the vast majority of the time. On the one-off, yeah, we will (Van Exel in 1993 was headed to about a 60 pt. game until Dean told Phelps to NEVER leave him again)...but that is the exception, not the rule.
 
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sorry to say but K will NOT let a player go off on him without throwing teh kitchen sink at him to STOP him.............just sayin
It wouldn't be difficult to buy into the notion of a team just playing "out of their minds" against UNC. After all, we're a top legendary program. But for how long can you just shrug your shoulders and say, "whatever, they were just not going to be denied tonight" when the same thing happens OVER & OVER & OVER & OVER AGAIN? I mean, we see this movie 6-8 times a year (just in Ls; that excludes the many times we overcome teams playing way over their heads), every single year....and have for 45+ years! I don't see this kind of thing happening to Dook and Kentucky, for example of similar level programs, THIS often. At some point, when the same thing keeps rearing its ugly head a disproportionate amount of the time against UNC relative to other top programs, then some treatment of WHY it keeps happening has to be given some thought.

Make no mistake, this is not a "Fire Roy" post. I wouldn't have anyone other than Roy leading the UNC program until Roy decides he doesn't want to do it any longer. But perhaps the time has come to not be so insular and inward-looking as a program....spend more time picking the scabs of the opponent in preparation...not to our own developmental detriment in terms of optimizing what WE do, but be able to put the clamps down, strategically speaking, when a guy such as Felix, for example, begins to "feel it" and starts having a career day/night. Seemingly, neither our coaches or our kids recognize when a guy is going off, and we don't do anything designed to stop it....the vast majority of the time. On the one-off, yeah, we will (Van Exel in 1993 was headed to about a 60 pt. game until Dean told Phelps to NEVER leave him again)...but that is the exception, not the rule.
 
To all that has been posted about Roy and the decisions he made and did not made is this, I have been involved in coaching for about 30 years to know that some decisions made by a coach & staff are made on somethings that we as fans are not aware of, that is the main reason you will never see me say anything about Roy's coaching. THANK GOD WE HAVE FREE WILL TO DO AS WE THINK. AND WE ALL SAY AMEN!

!!!!!!!!!!!! GO ROY & STAFF !!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!! GO TAR HEELS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Texas has a new young coach. He is part of a group of newbies (rebel like revolutionaries) to the college game. He gameplans a scheme to take away Carolinas best shooter (Paige). Texas wins. Carolina has a HOF coach. He doesnt feel the need to gameplan schemes to match opponents strengths. Carolina loses. What am i trying to say here? Just an observation of what HAPPENED SATURDAY.
we need him in chapel hill.
 
Roy will FINALLY change up on Defense. It WORKS. THEN ROY WONT DO IT ANYMORE!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH He goes back to the same man to man that was getting KILLED by a hot shooting team. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
can't coach
 
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HI Carolinadude23. God could not please man, how do you expect Roy to do it. Obviously my friend you need to pull for another team.

!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE FAITH & ROY !!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!! GO TAR HEELS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
...... I don't see this kind of thing happening to Dook and Kentucky, for example of similar level programs, THIS often. .......

Tell Lehigh and Mercer I said Hi.

Sorry, that comes across as rude, but I just feel there are many on this board who can't handle a loss.

Yes, the last few years have been tough and Roy has had the odd brain fart in crucial games (at Dook last year) but I don't buy into the argument that other teams don't have these sorts of losses and Lehigh and Mercer are two great examples of poor losses the Dookies had to endure.

OK, Dook doesn't have these sorts of losses in the early season because they don't play true road games (besides the ACC Big 10 challenge) Simply said, they don't put themselves out there and therefore don't have these types of losses.

I'd love the Heels to go undefeated, but if last years Kensucky team couldn't do it with all the talent they had then no one can. And lets be honest, this team and the Heels teams of the last few years have nowhere near that level of talent. That means losses will happen.

I get it, you're upset, but all the ranting and shouting at the keyboard isn't going to help. There was a ton of criticism of Meeks following the Texas game, people calling him soft, disinterested, lacking fire and now we know he was playing injured!

As Shun said above, the coaches know more than us keyboard/couch experts and there is always more going on behind the scenes.

Best advice, buy a punching bag and smash it to bits after the next loss (which I hope will come before mid march and not after)
 
Vaunted teams such as UK & Dook have lost, Oh My!
Some of our "fans" are pretty weird.
 
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