Justin Jackson to declare - not hire agent

[dadika13]

Justin Jackson will declare per Jeff Goodman but he won't hire an agent.

Not very surprising considering the new process but it's definitely good news that he won't hire an agent. I'm sure NBA scouts will love Justin's game and attitude, we'll just see if he decides to stay in or come back to UNC.

Best of luck to him either way, really enjoyed watching him play these past two years.

 

[heels05champs]

I'm sure hicks and Meeks will do the same. No reason for them not to.

 

[superstar57]

Only smart thing to do. Get a leg up on what scouts are looking for out of him, and who knows you could get surprised what your worth.

 

[gary-7]

Justin Jackson will declare per Jeff Goodman but he won't hire an agent.

Not very surprising considering the new process but it's definitely good news that he won't hire an agent. I'm sure NBA scouts will love Justin's game and attitude, we'll just see if he decides to stay in or come back to UNC.

Best of luck to him either way, really enjoyed watching him play these past two years.

Had Buckets had a better shooting year there would likely be no doubt he was gone. This one will depend on his performance in the workouts. Would love to have him back but that would be a bonus I was not expecting at the beginning of the season.

 

[RoseHeel]

I'm sure hicks and Meeks will do the same. No reason for them not to.

This. And I can't imagine why players wouldn't do that when it's basically free advice on how to succeed. Or at least, that's what it seems like.

What will matter is what he does with that information in the end.

 

[luv the heels 62]

So, now waiting game begins.....so what's the date when they have to say if they are coming back to school?

 

[BillyL]

So, now waiting game begins.....so what's the date when they have to say if they are coming back to school?

June 13 I believe . .

 

[gteeitup]

thanks for the info @BillyL

 

[NCAAUCoach]

May 25th is the deadline to pull your name out of the draft for college players. June is for international players.

 

[tarheels0015]

I feel like all will return .. we will be fine ! Go Heels !!

 

[gary-7]

So, now waiting game begins.....so what's the date when they have to say if they are coming back to school?

May 25.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

This. And I can't imagine why players wouldn't do that when it's basically free advice on how to succeed. Or at least, that's what it seems like.

What will matter is what he does with that information in the end.

That's how I look at it, too. Can be rough on coaches and HS kids who stay up in the air about recruiting, but it definitely makes sense for kids to test the waters and get feedback if the rules allow it.

The only danger is that some kids will be seduced by the bright lights. But I really don't think Justin is in any danger of that. If he does decide to go it will be because he got assurances. And we'll all wish him luck.

I hope he comes back. I can see some pros giving him a short list of things to work on. But I also won't be surprised if some team promises to draft him where he's willing to be drafted. He's already a good one and the pros know it.

OTOH, he could very well be the go-to player next season. He's already very versatile on scoring and defending. He moves well without the ball. He has a good motor. More strength and a reliable deep shot and he should tear up the ACC next year and be a clear lottery pick.

 

[gteeitup]

errrbody coming back...no need to worry

 

[coryfly]

I assume all four will do this. I also assume if any of them hear they are first rounders they leave. I don't think they will. If so, good for them.

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Great decision by Justin. Also good news for the heels. We couldn't rip on K for holding back Allen if Jackson didn't at least test the waters. Now he did so we can point that out. Sucks Trip Whiplash, you got brainwashed and didn't even see what the scouts wanted from you (other than to stop tripping opponents).

 

[Steat]

Good move for all parties. Pinson will move right into Justin's position and the Heels will not miss a beat.

 

[Spacegrass]

I'm sure hicks and Meeks will do the same. No reason for them not to.

Yea any Jr player looking to play professionally anywhere should test the waters as a Jr if they have not done it before. Keep in mind Jackson is almost as old as HIcks and Meeks. Like Reggie Bullock was almost as old as guys from our 2009 recruiting class instead of the 2010 guys he was recruited with. I think he was held back because of the home school thing. Jackson is one of those guys that will go next year if he doesn't this year.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Good move for all parties. Pinson will move right into Justin's position and the Heels will not miss a beat.

I hope so, whether or not Justin leaves. It's Pinson's turn to turn the corner.

 

[mikeirbyusa]

Good move for all parties. Pinson will move right into Justin's position and the Heels will not miss a beat.

JJ ain't gone yet.

 

[Steat]

JJ ain't gone yet.

Mikey, perhaps not. Anyway you look at it the kid gave us two good years and that's is what Roy requested of him. Tokoto left last year and look how the rest of the team developed. Not saying the same thing will happen if Jackson leaves, but it creates opportunities for others to shine. In fact, I go as far to say that Theo makes all ACC with 30 minutes a game.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Good move for all parties. Pinson will move right into Justin's position and the Heels will not miss a beat.

Huh? Jackson is light years ahead of Pinson as an offensive threat and as defenders, they're close. There is no doubt that we become a worse team if Jackson leaves. To argue otherwise is foolish.

 

[mikeirbyusa]

I want to see this a LOT

Berry
Britt
Theo
JJ
Hicks-Meeks or Bradley

 

[Steat]

Huh? Jackson is light years ahead of Pinson as an offensive threat and as defenders, they're close. There is no doubt that we become a worse team if Jackson leaves. To argue otherwise is foolish.

Gun, you are really funny. You completly avoided responding to the embarassment you made of yourself on the exchange between us about Jackson not signing on for 4 years. Now, you are challenging me on this. AMAZING! You were wrong there and may be wrong here. Many said we would be a worse team when Tokoto left. Jackson may come back so I will table this discussion for now. If Jackson does leave, then lets revisit this down the road. Pinson is a much better rebounder and he plans to work hard on his offensive game this off season. We both have opinions. Lets see how it shakes out. I'm not going to call you foolish for your opinion like you called me. It may come back to haunt me.

 

[Billheel]

I hope everyone is right about Theo. He really needs to work on his shooting and reckless play. Way to many turnovers and terrible passes. I know, I know he makes great plays as well. He just needs to tip the scale more in the direction of way more good than bad. Right now it's 50/50.

 

[gteeitup]

Many said we would be a worse team when Tokoto left.

um, who the heck said that?

 

[Steat]

um, who the heck said that?

Everyone has amnesia when they are guilty. Especially, when they know its impossible to pull up old threads. There were many people on this board that said we would be worst when Tokoto left. Mikey can vouch to that.

 

[gunslingerdick]

Gun, you are really funny. You completly avoided responding to the embarassment you made of yourself on the exchange between us about Jackson not signing on for 4 years.

I'm still waiting on that link that lends any credibility to your claim. Without it, it's just you acting like you know something.

And the day I'm embarrassed in a debate with you is the day I kill myself.

 

[JuleZ '02 HEEL]

Especially, when they know its impossible to pull up old threads. There were many people on this board that said we would be worst when Tokoto left.

???
As of today you can access threads going back to February 2015 - and they're even searchable by keyword. Just FYI.

 

[Sk1310]

I'm still waiting on that link that lends any credibility to your claim. Without it, it's just you acting like you know something.

And the day I'm embarrassed in a debate with you is the day I kill myself.

 

[Sk1310]

Good for Jackson to test the waters, but if he's gone that's a big blow. We would need Brob to be ready for a big role quicker than expected!

 

[gunslingerdick]

Everyone has amnesia when they are guilty. Especially, when they know its impossible to pull up old threads. There were many people on this board that said we would be worst when Tokoto left. Mikey can vouch to that.

Uhh, nope. Not impossible. In fact, pretty easy. Here is the link to the thread from last year after JP announced.


https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/jp-going-bye-bye.5984/

As far as gtee's feelings on JP's early entry, this is his one post from that thread:
"he wasn't a liability on defense...that's about all i got"

So it appears that gtee wasn't one that felt JP's early entry hurt our team.

And then here's your post in that same thread:
"Now JP.

I hesitate to jump into the annual thread about players leaving for the NBA because I'm a strong advocate of players leaving if they think it's the right thing to do. I said before the season that JP would leave after this season. If Paige would have been healthy all season he would be leaving also. Kendall Marshall was a terrible outside shooter when he left Chapel Hill, then he turns out to be one of the best 3-point shooters in the NBA his rookie year. Danny Green was a good outside shooter for the Heels, but he is a much better outside shooter in the NBA. JP will be a better NBA player. I have no idea whether Brown are Ingram will opt for Chapel Hill now since JP has declared for the NBA, but think the chances are good that we get one of them. The Heels need a superstar freshman player to help them win it all. Ingram or Brown could be the missing piece. How much do you think Hicks and Brice would have developed if McAdoo would have been around this year? You think Duke would have won it all with Suilamon on the team? I wish JP all the best in the NBA and I think the NBA suits his game better than the college game. The Heels will be a better team next year if they land either Brown or Ingram. They may be better even if they don't land either Brown or Ingram. Berry is a Shane Larkin clone...watch out!"

I've underlined some parts that were particularly interesting to me. Also, if you read that thread, most of the posters were indifferent to JP's leaving and some expressed delight. I think I counted on one hand the number of posts that declared we'd be worse because of his departure.

 

[Steat]

Uhh, nope. Not impossible. In fact, pretty easy. Here is the link to the thread from last year after JP announced.


https://northcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/jp-going-bye-bye.5984/

As far as gtee's feelings on JP's early entry, this is his one post from that thread:
"he wasn't a liability on defense...that's about all i got"

So it appears that gtee wasn't one that felt JP's early entry hurt our team.

And then here's your post in that same thread:
"Now JP.

I hesitate to jump into the annual thread about players leaving for the NBA because I'm a strong advocate of players leaving if they think it's the right thing to do. I said before the season that JP would leave after this season. If Paige would have been healthy all season he would be leaving also. Kendall Marshall was a terrible outside shooter when he left Chapel Hill, then he turns out to be one of the best 3-point shooters in the NBA his rookie year. Danny Green was a good outside shooter for the Heels, but he is a much better outside shooter in the NBA. JP will be a better NBA player. I have no idea whether Brown are Ingram will opt for Chapel Hill now since JP has declared for the NBA, but think the chances are good that we get one of them. The Heels need a superstar freshman player to help them win it all. Ingram or Brown could be the missing piece. How much do you think Hicks and Brice would have developed if McAdoo would have been around this year? You think Duke would have won it all with Suilamon on the team? I wish JP all the best in the NBA and I think the NBA suits his game better than the college game. The Heels will be a better team next year if they land either Brown or Ingram. They may be better even if they don't land either Brown or Ingram. Berry is a Shane Larkin clone...watch out!"

I've underlined some parts that were particularly interesting to me. Also, if you read that thread, most of the posters were indifferent to JP's leaving and some expressed delight. I think I counted on one hand the number of posts that declared we'd be worse because of his departure.

What this post shows is that I have been consistent with my opinion about early entries. I have highlighted the quotes that are interesting to me. Why are you interested in my prediction that either Brown or Ingram would sign with the Heels? Man, you are sick...lol. I was not the only one that thought the Heels would get Ingram, including Roy. I said the team may be better even if they didn't land either Brown or Ingram and I hit the jackpot on that prediction. Now, perform your magic and dig out the thread in Premium which showed several other posters disappointed that JP left early. There is some good stuff there my friend. I tell ya, man you are sick...lol

By the way, if you are going to list my posts, why be selective? Here are the rest on that thread:

"JP was going to have a reduced role on the team next year and probably was going to lose his starting position on the team to Berry. Roy probably told him this. As much as I dislike K, he plays his best players and it paid off this year. After starting 2 years and going to the bench your senior year? JP made the best move and he will be better for it. He will do fine in the NBA. Everyone wins here."

"Some of you are going to have a heart attack over this stuff. Duke fans are very happy right now, but watch their attitude turn quickly if they drop out of the Top 20 next year. It's always about what have you done for me lately.When the season starts next year Duke's title will be forgotten."

"Marshall was hurt this past year. He shot enough 3 point attempts to "qualify" as one of the top ten 3-point shooters in the NBA his rookie season. Check the facts. Regardless, it has been proven over and over again that some players develop better in the NBA than in college. Let me give you an easy one....Michael Jordan."

Not bad Gun...not bad at all. What else you got? LMFAO

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

I said the team may be better even if they didn't land either Brown or Ingram and I hit the jackpot on that prediction.

Comical. Pretty easy to "hit the jackpot" on a prediction when you straddle a fence like that. "They may be better if"

Let me just go on the record and say this... so that if this thread gets dug up next year I can hit the jackpot on this prediction:

The Heels may win more games than they did this year if Justin comes back. They also may win more games than they did this year if Justin doesn't come back. Of course it's also possible that they don't win as many games as they did this year regardless of whether Justin comes back or not.

 

[Steat]

Comical. Pretty easy to "hit the jackpot" on a prediction when you straddle a fence like that. "They may be better if"

Let me just go on the record and say this... so that if this thread gets dug up next year I can hit the jackpot on this prediction:

The Heels may win more games than they did this year if Justin comes back. They also may win more games than they did this year if Justin doesn't come back. Of course it's also possible that they don't win as many games as they did this year regardless of whether Justin comes back or not.

I'm a politician. ..gotta cover all angles...Got you prediction recorded boss man. LMFAO

 

[Hark_The_Sound_2010]

Got you prediction recorded boss man.

We'll have to check back at this time next year to see if I got it right

 

[SeaHawk98]

Jackson reminds me a lot of Danny Green (different games of course). I know Jackson is just a sophomore, but I believe Green wouldn't be where he is today if he had not come back his senior year. Jackson could greatly benefit from at least another year. He didn't have a great year and with Brice and Paige gone, could really be the go to guy next year.

 

[gunslingerdick]

What this post shows is that I have been consistent with my opinion about early entries. I have highlighted the quotes that are interesting to me.

Ok. I haven't implied anything to the contrary. Good for you? I don't know what you want me to say about that.

Why are you interested in my prediction that either Brown or Ingram would sign with the Heels?

I just thought I'd have some fun at your expense. You're spouting off about Jackson like you know with a certainty what's going on in that situation and highlighting you being wrong calls into question your credibility on the topic at hand. Your incorrect statements there act as a character witness of sorts.

Man, you are sick...lol. ... I tell ya, man you are sick...lol

I'm sick because I'm pointing out your inaccuracies? And what is sick? Sick as in I'm physically ill? Or sick like I'm a psycho? I don't get what you're saying here. Please translate.

Now, perform your magic and dig out the thread in Premium which showed several other posters disappointed that JP left early. There is some good stuff there my friend.

Magic? It's basic functions of the message board. You're perfectly capable of doing your own homework. And frankly, I don't give a shit what people on premium have said. I don't post there. And the message you posted chastising our fans was here on Radar (or Raider). So it was a logical conclusion that you were speaking about posters at Radar when you made the statement that all of our fans thought we'd be worse without Tokoto. And as I've already pointed out, that wasn't the case. Or at least that wasn't the case in the thread posted a year ago in regards to JP leaving.

By the way, if you are going to list my posts, why be selective? Here are the rest on that thread:

"JP was going to have a reduced role on the team next year and probably was going to lose his starting position on the team to Berry. Roy probably told him this. As much as I dislike K, he plays his best players and it paid off this year. After starting 2 years and going to the bench your senior year? JP made the best move and he will be better for it. He will do fine in the NBA. Everyone wins here."

"Some of you are going to have a heart attack over this stuff. Duke fans are very happy right now, but watch their attitude turn quickly if they drop out of the Top 20 next year. It's always about what have you done for me lately.When the season starts next year Duke's title will be forgotten."

"Marshall was hurt this past year. He shot enough 3 point attempts to "qualify" as one of the top ten 3-point shooters in the NBA his rookie season. Check the facts. Regardless, it has been proven over and over again that some players develop better in the NBA than in college. Let me give you an easy one....Michael Jordan."

I wasn't being selective. Of the three quotes of yours from that JP thread from a year ago, I'll admit I must have missed the first one which lightly touches on the subject. But if I wanted to nitpick, how is JP doing in the NBA? Fine? I mean, because you said he would be fine and you always say stuff with such conviction and all,...fill me in on what kind of year JP had in the NBA. TIA.

I didn't quote the other two because they are completely irrelevant to the discussion we're having (or at least, the discussion I'm having. Not sure where you are in all of this).

.

Not bad Gun...not bad at all. What else you got? LMFAO

Better than not bad. I'm kicking ass in this thread if I do say so myself. What else I got? You sure you want more?

 

[Steat]

Ok. I haven't implied anything to the contrary. Good for you? I don't know what you want me to say about that.



I just thought I'd have some fun at your expense. You're spouting off about Jackson like you know with a certainty what's going on in that situation and highlighting you being wrong calls into question your credibility on the topic at hand. Your incorrect statements there act as a character witness of sorts.



I'm sick because I'm pointing out your inaccuracies? And what is sick? Sick as in I'm physically ill? Or sick like I'm a psycho? I don't get what you're saying here. Please translate.



Magic? It's basic functions of the message board. You're perfectly capable of doing your own homework. And frankly, I don't give a shit what people on premium have said. I don't post there. And the message you posted chastising our fans was here on Radar (or Raider). So it was a logical conclusion that you were speaking about posters at Radar when you made the statement that all of our fans thought we'd be worse without Tokoto. And as I've already pointed out, that wasn't the case. Or at least that wasn't the case in the thread posted a year ago in regards to JP leaving.



I wasn't being selective. Of the three quotes of yours from that JP thread from a year ago, I'll admit I must have missed the first one which lightly touches on the subject. But if I wanted to nitpick, how is JP doing in the NBA? Fine? I mean, because you said he would be fine and you always say stuff with such conviction and all,...fill me in on what kind of year JP had in the NBA. TIA.

I didn't quote the other two because they are completely irrelevant to the discussion we're having (or at least, the discussion I'm having. Not sure where you are in all of this).



Better than not bad. I'm kicking ass in this thread if I do say so myself. What else I got? You sure you want more?

Gun, I love you...give me a kiss old man! LMFAO

 

[gteeitup]

Everyone has amnesia when they are guilty.

i don't think everyone...and i wouldn't characterize it as amnesia.

you're getting warm though.

 

[MCPO_Tarheel]

Makes sense to me. I would be more surprised if they don't take this opportunity to test the waters.