K post game vs UNC...

[Tribgrywubb68]

I’ve never seen grown adults (supposedly) defend an internet message board poster with such vitriol before. Lol you’d think this dude gary has pictures of them in compromising positions.

 

[Tribgrywubb68]

Then again, humans need idols. Even if you need to go to a college basketball message board to find one.

 

[CrazyHeel]

I wonder does Gary enjoy threads being hijacked about Gary.

 

[ticket2ride04]

He was not wrong however, in that Coby is not, and was not, a pure point guard. Even in the Association he is having to learn that position. If he said that Coby was not our best option at PG that year, then yes, he was in fact wrong once in his life without admitting it. Where everyone else is wrong, is making up this shit that he said Platek was better suited for PG than Coby. He said that Platek was serviceable in that role if necessary, but never once that I know of, said Platek would’ve been the better option at PG. Prove me wrong & I’ll wear it, if you can’t then please STHU about it, it’s tiresome.

This is just one exchange. He went out of his way to be critical once Coby proved him wrong. There’s tons of stuff out there.

Better mindset? Yes. But if you're talking about PG, Coby is not more ready than Jalek was.

I love Coby, and I especially love the things I've heard about his attitude thus far. That being said, his natural position in college is a 2, and Kenny has most of those minutes covered. He may have some future as a 1, but there's a STEEEP learning curve for him there. OAD is not a likely scenario.

Steat, I'm not sure there's a magic bullet sitting on the bench (like there sure as hell was in '14-15), and all this is whimsical hypothetical. But... getting to the query of this thread, let's imagine Dean was handed this roster during preseason practice knowing nothing about the team (like Norman Dale in Hoosiers) and rolled out the ball and decided to watch for a while to "...see what kind of hand I've been dealt". Knowing Dean's mindset and system, I imagine the first thing he would try to figure out is who can run this operation at PG. And being perfectly honest I don't think it would take him very long for decide the two guys doing it now would be better utilized off the ball.

Heck, after watching the first practice he'd probably call and check on Jeremiah Francis's rehab, and then hop on a plane and hope he has an in-home he can use on Cole Anthony . But seriously, for this season I think Dean Smith would look for guys who have the basic instincts and understanding of spacing and ball movement and the mindset along with skillset to helm his mostly freelance system and play enough defense to at least force opposing PGs off their preferred path and mesh with our team-defensive concepts. Thus, I truly believe he would be looking immediately at Platek and Baby Jet (even if he hadn't previously coached his dad), and if they couldn't cut it then maybe try to improvise with a 7th or Coby, or hell, even Kenny.

What in the world have you seen that makes you believe Platek could run the point for ANY Tar Heel team?

Just look at the traits I mentioned, Mike. They're all there.

Put me on record as saying there are zero tangible results or metrics that support Platek as a good player at UNC. I’m sorry but it’s true.

And baby jet is a solid 3rd string Pg, nothing more. He’s the same great kid that couldn’t crack the rotation at Pacific and averaged 2 ppg.

Please stop creating this narrative and skill set like either one of those guys are difference makers for this team or any team during their time at UNC. Stop the nonsense.

It's not nonsense.

 

[TarHeelNation11]

The sad thing about g7's tenure here is it chased a lot of good poasters away.

Not because we were scared to argue with him or anything of the like; rather, his cult of personality and his faithful minions made it too much of a chore to frequent this board. Opinions that differed from the g7 / archer2 / dsouthr brigade were met with vitriol, accusations of being a fake fan or a dookie or what have you.

It started well before Coby came to campus. G7 became too much and lots of good poasters bolted. That's why Radar is reduced to a rotation of like 10 folks taking circles to each other.

Y'all have fun.

 

[Tribgrywubb68]

This is just one exchange. He went out of his way to be critical once Coby proved him wrong. There’s tons of stuff out there.

ouch lol.

 

[coolwaterunc]

He sucks.

 

[ticket2ride04]

He sucks.

- @gary-7 on Coby White

 

[Heelicious]

I like Gary's after-game posts, and will go on record as saying he knows way more about basketball and UNC basketball than I do or ever will.

Along with the Coby stuff mentioned above, the way he selected one other favorite - Joel Berry - granted a favorite of most everyone here - and viewed, discussed him so differently than any other Heels player before or after JB - wasn't a good take IMO. The blown assists - even if one concedes it can be a legit stat, wasn't ever mentioned to my knowledge for Coby or any of the PGs on this year's team or other past teams. It ends up being a point of ridicule.

And the lording over other posters here, not saying "you have your opinion, I have mine, they are different, we agree to disagree, fine"

....instead saying things like (paraphrasing) "the takes on this thread show such a lack of basketball knowledge of most posters on this board" is a bad look, IMO. It can go without being said even if one thinks it. Does nothing to build respect among other posters.

But I try to have the emotional intelligence to just take what I like from his posts, and going forward just ignore what I don't like. No need to poke the bear, or get into a pssing match on-line. That doesn't solve anything.

 

[Tribgrywubb68]

Still haven’t read anything from him that would indicate a super advanced knowledge of basketball. I can throw around fancy sounding terms like “22 defense” and “spacing” and bitch about the refs and call myself and expert, too.

from what I read about his thoughts on coby white and platek etc, even if he is knowledgeable, he definitely has some severe blind spots.

also, usually if someone is indeed an expert in a given subject, they will have no problem with opposing viewpoints and will gladly debate with people. The baseline insecurity level and stubbornness is a pretty big tell.

 

[imajericho]

He was not wrong however, in that Coby is not, and was not, a pure point guard. Even in the Association he is having to learn that position. If he said that Coby was not our best option at PG that year, then yes, he was in fact wrong once in his life without admitting it. Where everyone else is wrong, is making up this shit that he said Platek was better suited for PG than Coby. He said that Platek was serviceable in that role if necessary, but never once that I know of, said Platek would’ve been the better option at PG. Prove me wrong & I’ll wear it, if you can’t then please STHU about it, it’s tiresome.

He absolutely said Platek should be starting at PG and not Coby. Not sure if you are serious...?

What do you think we are talking about? Lmfao?

 

[imajericho]

Like, let me make this more clearer with an example. Last year, I stated I thought Jeremiah Francis was better for us at Point Guard than Cole Anthony. I acknowledged Cole Anthony was our undoubted best player, but that he was a ball stopper as our PG and that Jeremiah Francis as our Point Guard seemed to push the ball more and drive and dish more. Thus, I felt Cole Anthony was better in our system as the two because Cole Anthony is more of an iso player that is better suited for the NBA than our system at the 1.

However, I was wrong. Jeremiah Francis tailed off hard after initial showings that gave hope and Cole Anthony very late in the season did incorporate more distributing to others, not satisfactorily for our system but better than Francis ultimately gave us.

I can admit that I was ultimately wrong.

I haven't gone on a multi-year campaign of trying to create a narrative of a marginal player being better than he is to try and justify my position from years past. I didn't sit here and try and say this dude is a ball stopper and he is one of our best defenders or that he has the right acumen of the 1 position to create proper spacing on offense that we don't get elsewhere, or complain about rotations when he isn't getting enough playing time or not in late at games, attacking the coach for it in the process.

That is the difference here. This dude sniped Coby so hard for practically the entire year that he is still hundredbling down on a marginal player being better than he is to try and act like he was right in regards to it.

Like, Platek is a fine and of the bench player you play in a pinch. He can hold his own for a little while in games against decent competition and can make shots from time to time when we need him to. It's nothing against Platek. Nobody expected much more of him when he was recruited here. We expected someone to help us with depth. The crap Platek takes here isn't about Platek but in regards to the narrative being pushed about him.