Where in my post did I say I was a superior fan? I'll hang up and listen.
Kerwin Walton,........Well??.................................................
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Where in my post did I say I was a superior fan? I'll hang up and listen.
Welcome aboard young man. I have to admit I thought momma would sway him to Minnesota, glad he followed his heart and chose the Heels.
He will fit in well because he is big enough to play SG or SF. With uncertainty surrounding when Leaky and Ant will be able to return to full basketball activities, it's nice to have a 6-5/205# guy who can play multiple spots. I believe Leaky is supposed to be ready at the beginning of practice, but if he isn't then Puff or Kerwin are our best options to start at the SF spot.
It's even harder to determine when Ant might be released to play, coming off his second ACL injury. He was playing very efficiently before he was injured, you could see his confidence growing. I really hope he is back by November, he was injured on December 30th and the recovery time is normally at least 9 months. I'm thinking it will be closer to 10 -11 months. Until then, RJ/Kerwin/Andrew will have to man the SG spot.
Oh, for those who kept saying he had a slow release on his jumper and would struggle to get it off at the college level, in the video above Clint confirmed what I saw in his videos, that is he actually gets the ball out his hands quickly. "a Marino-like release" Clint said. He does a good job of squaring up to the basket, going up and coming down in the same spot(not drifting left/right/backward), and being in good shooting position when he gets the ball.
I can see him getting 15-20 minutes right off the bat, that's how desperate we are for good perimeter shooters. As long as two of these three(Love/Davis/Walton) are in the game at all times, we'll be in great shape.
He will fit in well because he is big enough to play SG or SF. With uncertainty surrounding when Leaky and Ant will be able to return to full basketball activities, it's nice to have a 6-5/205# guy who can play multiple spots. I believe Leaky is supposed to be ready at the beginning of practice, but if he isn't then Puff or Kerwin are our best options to start at the SF spot.
It's even harder to determine when Ant might be released to play, coming off his second ACL injury. He was playing very efficiently before he was injured, you could see his confidence growing. I really hope he is back by November, he was injured on December 30th and the recovery time is normally at least 9 months. I'm thinking it will be closer to 10 -11 months. Until then, RJ/Kerwin/Andrew will have to man the SG spot.
Oh, for those who kept saying he had a slow release on his jumper and would struggle to get it off at the college level, in the video above Clint confirmed what I saw in his videos, that is he actually gets the ball out his hands quickly. "a Marino-like release" Clint said. He does a good job of squaring up to the basket, going up and coming down in the same spot(not drifting left/right/backward), and being in good shooting position when he gets the ball.
I can see him getting 15-20 minutes right off the bat, that's how desperate we are for good perimeter shooters. As long as two of these three(Love/Davis/Walton) are in the game at all times, we'll be in great shape.
I haven't read through this thread, but living in Minneapolis, near U of M, and following their program somewhat, I can easily understand the delay in the decision. If the kid wants to be prominent (one of "the main guys") in a program immediately, it is certainly true that he'd be a bigger deal to the Gopher program right away, than he will be at UNC. Meaning he'd step on Gopher campus and be a top 2-3 guy for them. Not true at UNC.
Still he will get more national and NBA exposure and better coaching and advice at UNC than at U of M. And will develop with/ against better players and coaches. So he just needs to be patient, and do the work, and UNC will end up being the best choice for his career long term IMO.
Still he will get more national and NBA exposure and better coaching and advice at UNC than at U of M. And will develop with/ against better players and coaches. So he just needs to be patient, and do the work, and UNC will end up being the best choice for his career long term IMO.
Your post is virtue signalling applied to fandom. It's the intent of your post. It's blatant.
I said "fans". I'm a fan of UNC. Thus, I put you and I (and all UNC fans) in the same category in that none of us should be coaching the team. We're too emotional with crap like this. I chose the posts that most accurately reflect this to back up my point.
So don't be so sensitive. If you put crap up like "I no longer want this guy" and "I don't trust him to make decisions on the court cuz he can't decide on my timeline" then you're going to get crap when he decides to come here.
"These fans are horrible. I am glad I am not like them.". You are virtue signalling your fandom. I mean, it's absolutely blatant.
You didn't come in here and say I trusted Roy. I am glad he is here. You picked out posts to make you feel like a superior fan. Clear as day.
You are the kind of person that tries to put down others to feel good about yourself. It has been on display time and time again.
Like, what you are pointing to there to even try and feel better about yourself is literally so negligible or even bad in the first place. That's how wrapped up you are in that mindset.
That's virtue signalling.
Kermit. LOL - kid's 5 months from being on campus and already has a great nickname IMO.
You put something in quotes to indicate that those words were said by me. Can you show me where I said that?
Welcome to the Family, Mr. Walton!
I know the decision was tough, but I also know you picked a place that is way more than just a stopover to the pros! You joined a lifelong Family that will support you no matter what you eventually do for pay!
I know the decision was tough, but I also know you picked a place that is way more than just a stopover to the pros! You joined a lifelong Family that will support you no matter what you eventually do for pay!
I quoted your post above. That is what it means in between the lines.
You pointed out posts you thought weren't good. To show bad fans in your mind. Stated how you supposedly did a better action. Believe in Roy.
That's what virtue signalling is. If you don't want someone to call it out, don't do it. You specifically made it a point to call out what you viewed was bad and state how you did better. Blatant. Okay, moving on.
We had a few who thought we should hold the scholarship rather than go after Brooks.
Imagine last year without Brooks. Heck, even the year before last.
LOL, I can say upfront, I stand by every word I have said in this one, still not sure he will be a impact player for us and less sure he will be that as a freshman. Any kid that commits to be a Tar Heel I welcome and no different at all with this kid, I hope he blows up and becomes a star!
This was a very odd recruitment over the last few days, kinda get the feeling that maybe dad had to have one of those husband wife talks that maybe their son should go the the school he MOST prefers as opposed to momma wanting to keep him closer. Where it really got in to the weeds is on the day he originally set to publicly commit he ends up waiting until a transfer that also was looking at Minn to commit, who committed elsewhere? As if he was looking to see if Minn would have a spot for him or the transfer take it from him. That would indicate that Minn had the cards when the transfer popped for another program.
I think momma was pushing Minn to keep him closer to home especially in PC (post Co-vid) days but mommas usually want their sons closer to home anyway, thou Co-vid may have made her argument stronger.
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This was a very odd recruitment over the last few days, kinda get the feeling that maybe dad had to have one of those husband wife talks that maybe their son should go the the school he MOST prefers as opposed to momma wanting to keep him closer. Where it really got in to the weeds is on the day he originally set to publicly commit he ends up waiting until a transfer that also was looking at Minn to commit, who committed elsewhere? As if he was looking to see if Minn would have a spot for him or the transfer take it from him. That would indicate that Minn had the cards when the transfer popped for another program.
I think momma was pushing Minn to keep him closer to home especially in PC (post Co-vid) days but mommas usually want their sons closer to home anyway, thou Co-vid may have made her argument stronger.
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It was accidental, but that's what I'm calling him from now on
Hopefully the world rebounds back to a sense of normalcy fairly quickly, and distance isn't such an added threat.
Hopefully Kerwin is happy here and stays. Garrison is a current example of a guy who wavered, Vince is another. Both turned out to be loyal true blue members of the UNC family.
Hopefully Kerwin is happy here and stays. Garrison is a current example of a guy who wavered, Vince is another. Both turned out to be loyal true blue members of the UNC family.
he came in and showed you didn’t know wtf you’re talking about is how I read it
I am elated to have Kerwin join our already stellar class. Turns out good shooting is very important in the game of basketball and something us fans are always hoping for...
I like it, seems to have good form, size and athleticism.
Please stop with the back and forth bickering, it is what kills threads.
I like it, seems to have good form, size and athleticism.
Please stop with the back and forth bickering, it is what kills threads.
How did he show me I didn't know what I was talking about?
Did Kerwin Walton already play for UNC and disprove my musings of what could be concerning to me on the court?
Here is my comment
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Someone this unsure about a decision that he announced a date for 2 weeks in advance doesn't give me the most positive thoughts to his nerves on the court. I understand it's a big decision, but so is the pressure on the court."
What did he show I didn't know what I was talking about? I spoke about being concerned if he was indecisive / gets cold feet that I was worried it may also come into play under pressure on the court?
Your comment doesn't make sense. Nice try!
I’m somewhere in the middle. It’s a BIG decision. We all recognize that. I think it soured on some people that he went through the exercise of setting a commitment date, then waited until damn near 11 pm on the commitment night to then stating that he’d announce the next day. Next day comes and then late night again, they announced that he will actually announce on Monday at 11. They didn’t exactly do themselves any favors. It likely turned into a circus that they didn’t anticipate. It is what it is. Life goes on.
He wasn't holding Roy up from pursuing another target. Fans complain about the fuss made by kids announcing nowadays, then get all upset when they don't find out, when they are "promised"...lol. The fans rabid interest in the commitments ironically is what fuels the announcement style they claim to hate.
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We just put the finishing touches on one of the best classes we've ever had at UNC. Last I heard, that's cause to be happy.
With the Walton signing, Roy signed 1/3 of the players he offered (6 of 18).
Compare this to the Kevin Knox year when Roy offered 17 "top" recruits and didn't sign any of those players.
Considering that Roy backed off 2 offers (Todd and Brown) who were heavily courted ( behind close doors) by the G-League, the hit ratio looks even better. He didn't offer Jalen Green and probably figured out early on it would have been a waste of his time to make him an offer. Roy knows what is going with most of these players.
I put Brown, Todd and Green in the famous category of " A recruitment that Roy does not normally win" which has many definitions. Many questioned why Roy didn't go after Brown and Todd, and we now know one of the reasons why.
The G-League is still going hard after Brown and he may never set a foot on the Texas campus. Green and Todd have signed G-League contracts. So, eventually we may be looking at 3 players that Roy basically avoided that may be in the inaugural elite G-League.
2020 (18 offers)--6 commitments
Caleb Love --OV Sept 13-15 --committed to UNC
Walker Kessler--OV Sept 20-22--committed to UNC
Day ‘Ron Sharp--OV Sept 27-29--committed to UNC
RJ Davis--OV Oct. 11-13--committed to UNC
Puff Johnson--OV Nov. 1-3- committed to UNC
Kerwin Walton--OV Oct 25-27- committed to UNC
2020 (12 commitments elsewhere)
Earl Timberlake-- committed to Miami
Cade Cunningham--committed to Oklahoma State
Bryce Thompson--committed to Kansas
Isaiah Todd--decommitted to Michigan--signed with G-League
Hunter Dickinson-committed to Michigan
Dawson Garcia--committed to Marguette
Jaden Springer-- committed to Tennessee
DJ Steward--Committed to Duke
Jeremy Roach--Committed to Duke
Cam 'Ron Fletcher--Committed to Kentucky
Ziaire Williams--Committed to Stanford
Greg Brown --committed to Texas--still considering G-League
Compare this to the Kevin Knox year when Roy offered 17 "top" recruits and didn't sign any of those players.
Considering that Roy backed off 2 offers (Todd and Brown) who were heavily courted ( behind close doors) by the G-League, the hit ratio looks even better. He didn't offer Jalen Green and probably figured out early on it would have been a waste of his time to make him an offer. Roy knows what is going with most of these players.
I put Brown, Todd and Green in the famous category of " A recruitment that Roy does not normally win" which has many definitions. Many questioned why Roy didn't go after Brown and Todd, and we now know one of the reasons why.
The G-League is still going hard after Brown and he may never set a foot on the Texas campus. Green and Todd have signed G-League contracts. So, eventually we may be looking at 3 players that Roy basically avoided that may be in the inaugural elite G-League.
2020 (18 offers)--6 commitments
Caleb Love --OV Sept 13-15 --committed to UNC
Walker Kessler--OV Sept 20-22--committed to UNC
Day ‘Ron Sharp--OV Sept 27-29--committed to UNC
RJ Davis--OV Oct. 11-13--committed to UNC
Puff Johnson--OV Nov. 1-3- committed to UNC
Kerwin Walton--OV Oct 25-27- committed to UNC
2020 (12 commitments elsewhere)
Earl Timberlake-- committed to Miami
Cade Cunningham--committed to Oklahoma State
Bryce Thompson--committed to Kansas
Isaiah Todd--decommitted to Michigan--signed with G-League
Hunter Dickinson-committed to Michigan
Dawson Garcia--committed to Marguette
Jaden Springer-- committed to Tennessee
DJ Steward--Committed to Duke
Jeremy Roach--Committed to Duke
Cam 'Ron Fletcher--Committed to Kentucky
Ziaire Williams--Committed to Stanford
Greg Brown --committed to Texas--still considering G-League
It's times like this that this board really misses Mike Irby.
He would have kept this thread balanced; maybe teased us with an inside tidbit or two.
He would have chastised those who ran afoul of the rules.
He would have cleaned up some messes.
And in the end, he would be very happy that Kerwin Walton chose to become a Tar Heel.
God luv ya Mike!!
He would have kept this thread balanced; maybe teased us with an inside tidbit or two.
He would have chastised those who ran afoul of the rules.
He would have cleaned up some messes.
And in the end, he would be very happy that Kerwin Walton chose to become a Tar Heel.
God luv ya Mike!!
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I'm in the west coast time zone sir! Las Vegas!
His memory is a blessingIt's times like this that this board really misses Mike Irby.
He would have kept this thread balanced; maybe teased us with an inside tidbit or two.
He who have chastised those who ran afoul of the rules.
He would have cleaned up some messes.
And in the end, he would be very happy that Kerwin Walton chose to become a Tar Heel.
God luv ya Mike!!
Gotta say, only big misses I see we’re Thompson and Williams. At the end, Cade was UK or Oki State bound and Springer, well, was a weird recruitment. It is interesting to see who we ended up w versus who we all were after!
Not many knew of the transfer situation but the kid from Rice and two other transfers are headed to Minn. Muddied water.
I confess I was impatient with this one but glad he is a Tar Heel and look for good things from this '20 group.
I'm not anti-Platek by any means, but Walton's shooting prowess alone is enough to give him an advantage over Andrew. Teams don't have to honor his shot whatsoever and can just sag off of him. The defense at worst is a push between the two.
I was pleasantly surprised to hear the kid talk about his defense. I agree with you on the shooting. When teams know you can’t put it in the ocean it’s hurts everywhere. Hopefully AP can get it straightened out.
I always hesitate building up freshmen, especially one's that a ranked near 100. Why can't Puff play SG next year? Walton has never shot 3's at the college 3 point line and that will be a factor for him and other freshmen next season.
All very good points. I just wonder though if the unknown outweighs the already known in that Platek can't shoot in-game consistently.
I cannot argue for playing time for Platek as his shooting was pretty non existent last year.
I think that RJ will play PG and Love will play SG, or vice versa, but I think we see those two playing the 1 and 2 spots and let Walton work his way in the rotation.
I think so too. I hate to say it but I have no faith in Platek's ability to hit the three. He's had three years to develop the confidence necessary to become a productive part of the rotation. Unfortunately, he simply hasn't. I will be surprised if Davis, Love, Harris, and Walton don't take the vast majority of Platek's minutes.
While Puff is ranked higher, it's pretty much consensus that Walton is more ready right now to play meaningful minutes at the next level. Walton is 6'5'', thick, and gets his shot off very quickly. Walton is also the far superior defender right now because of his frame.
Puff's ranking is mostly on his vast upside but he'll take a year or two of work to build up muscle and ability to create his own shot before he's playing meaningful minutes for us.
That's not a slight on the kid at all, he's going to be outstanding for us as an upperclassman.
Same here but the defense is by far the bigger issue. Platek just doesn't have the foot speed needed to play defense at the high D1 level. Love that he sticks it out and never doubt his effort, but....
I think Platek suffered from too many contested looks and lost his form + confidence. He began to hurry his shot even when not contested because those looks were few and far between. If he could have played this Summer with the newbies, he might have found his confidence and learned how to shoot with more space. I still think he will recover, but this ridiculous issue couldn't have come at a worse time for him! Platek makes up for his foot speed with positioning on D, but he really struggles in the scramble or when recovering. This may be a problem he can't overcome, but could be mitigated by good team D!
Speaking of defense, I'm a dreamer. Can you imagine this team improving it's 3-point defense next year causing the opponents to shoot a much lower 3-point percentage? With our bigs the opponents may never get a rebound. Oh, no... I woke up...
Kerwin & Puff, along with the other elite newcomers, will have to adjust to the college game and UNC, and who knows if or how much of the normal time to acclimate they will have with the virus waves.
That exacerbates the challenge for them, and favors a vet like Platek with 3 years experience. With that said, if Platek is getting any serious time after the first couple of weeks, it means that we have a serious hole once again in our rotation.
That exacerbates the challenge for them, and favors a vet like Platek with 3 years experience. With that said, if Platek is getting any serious time after the first couple of weeks, it means that we have a serious hole once again in our rotation.
Pretty sure Ol’Roy’s going to give Platek every opportunity early in the season to prove himself and I expect mediocre results. My initial evaluation of our four incoming freshman wings are that only two of them are going to be immediately ready for the pace and length of college ball. I believe down the stretch, we will see Love, Davis and hopefully a fully recovered Harris getting the majority of minutes in our backcourt.
The most intense competition for PT will be in our frontcourt!
The most intense competition for PT will be in our frontcourt!
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