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Looks like we have a Duke scandal on our hands.........

gunslingerdickReply3/2 2:50 PM
Re: Looks like we have a Duke scandal on our hands.........
Originally posted by heelmanwilm:
A bball secretary heard about the allegations and confirmed them thru a mutual friend of an alleged victim and threatened to quit over k's inaction a week before sallyman was kicked off. So sounds like he was kicked off only because the allegations were about to go public.
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Where are you getting that? If that's provable, that's damning.
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Originally posted by heelmanwilm:
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coach k should have notified campus police and school immediately about the alleged assault and then suspeneded whats his name pending the investigation.

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Suspend him because of an unsubstantiated rumor floating around? What if someone floated a rumor out there about one of your players. Should they be suspended because of that?

If that's the case, I'll spread all kinds of dirt on the Gooners and Aggies.
 
According to ESPN article, the first assualt happenend in Oct 2013 and the second in February 2014. K and his assistants knew about this in March 2014; nearly a year before he gets kicked off the team.

And... "Sources close to the two women told the Chronicle that the women did not pursue school or legal action against Sulaimon because they feared reprisal from Duke's fan base."

Holy crap - this has the potential to blow up big time in K's face if true.
 
^^^ So do the words "Cover-up" and/or "Scandal" NOW come into play? It is a question worth asking, in my opinion...
 
As of now it's a rumor , no charges filed so it doesn't look like it will come to court as of now. A good lawyer would have a field day if the girls said they didn't report based on the fanbase reaction and then report later. He/they would probably say what reactions in the past are you basing this on?.
 
Originally posted by HeelFan58:

As of now it's a rumor , no charges filed so it doesn't look like it will come to court as of now. A good lawyer would have a field day if the girls said they didn't report based on the fanbase reaction and then report later. He/they would probably say what reactions in the past are you basing this on?.
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Agree. However,a good DA will pursue this "rumor" and it is well within all statute of limitations in the
state of North Carolina for filing charges if warranted. You would think that the DA's office would have
someone in front of these girls asap to see if there should be any charges.
 
Originally posted by heelmanwilm:
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coach k should have notified campus police and school immediately about the alleged assault and then suspeneded whats his name pending the investigation.
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Suspend him because of an unsubstantiated rumor floating around? What if someone floated a rumor out there about one of your players. Should they be suspended because of that?

If that's the case, I'll spread all kinds of dirt on the Gooners and Aggies.

Lol hyperbolate much?
Dude he got kicked off the team. I'm saying suspend him pending investigation. Lol. Not sure why your point is but your "neutrality" is starting to sound like bull crap.
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Investigation is a waste of time. If the victims were afraid to go public because of fear of backlash when a simple bball player was involved imagine the pressure now that the hc could be in the crosshairs for not acting sooner. Victims will not cooperate and rules allow a private institution to tell media to pi$$ off. Hell k will probably be lauded for coaching through the stress of all this.
 
Originally posted by Bubspub88:
Investigation is a waste of time. If the victims were afraid to go public because of fear of backlash when a simple bball player was involved imagine the pressure now that the hc could be in the crosshairs for not acting sooner. Victims will not cooperate and rules allow a private institution to tell media to pi$$ off. Hell k will probably be lauded for coaching through the stress of all this.
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On DI, they are already saying that krysexski did the honorable thing and kicked Sulaimon off of
the team as soon as he found out about the rapes. Apparently, they don't understand that k knew
about this a year ago, that Sulaimon is still a student at dook, and that he could transfer somewhere
else. So, k decided everything was okay as long as he wasn't on the team anymore????
 
Originally posted by heelmanwilm:
Originally posted by heelmanwilm:
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coach k should have notified campus police and school immediately about the alleged assault and then suspeneded whats his name pending the investigation.
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Suspend him because of an unsubstantiated rumor floating around? What if someone floated a rumor out there about one of your players. Should they be suspended because of that?

If that's the case, I'll spread all kinds of dirt on the Gooners and Aggies.

Lol hyperbolate much?
Dude he got kicked off the team. I'm saying suspend him pending investigation. Lol. Not sure why your point is but your "neutrality" is starting to sound like bull crap.

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I'm just saying that you cannot suspend a kid based on an unsubstantiated rumor. There's no grounds for that. Now, if it comes out that Duke or Coach K had evidence and did not report it or act on it, then they need to face the consequences. The biggest thing to me is if Rasheed actually assaulted those girls, he needs to face the consequences for that.

We had two football players kicked off the team before last season by Coach Strong who were accused of rape. The difference was that the alleged victim reported the incident to the police, the police collected evidence, and the guys were formally charged. The proceedings are ongoing. Strong kicked them off the team, but there is obviously a lot more there in terms of evidence.
 
Originally posted by TraBuch:
He's accusing K of covering up two rapes based on rumors and an anonymous source. Awesome journalism.
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Ah Tra, are you suggesting K dismissed the kid based on rumor and an anonymous source?

I mean really, you can't have it both ways, either he was dismissed based on rumor and an anonymous source or K knew for over a year and yet allowed him to play anyway. You tell me, which side of that argument would you like to champion? Trust me, I can have fun with either end of this one! LOL
 
DSouthr with the most-pregnant, poignant point. Pardon the pun but read the FIRST paragraph taken from the article again:




Rasheed Sulaimon's dismissal from the Duke basketball program is clouded by allegations of sexual assault, which surfaced nearly a year before he was released from the team in January. Multiple sources close to the situation have confirmed that members of the athletic department were made aware of the allegations as early as March 2014.
 
Perhaps the flow was we will handle this if you keep your nose clean.

You know, dook is larger than any one person, almost!

Some college girls had their life changed and scarred forever and afraid to come forward because of shaming or physical backlash and the guy responsible is still suiting up for "The Leader of Men"....that has known it for a year. "Teflon Don" and his "Private School" shield may have met his match... After all, they are just a couple of girls(we know of). In the whole scope of things the University is much larger than their lives...

This is sickening beyond belief to me.
 
Originally posted by DSouthr:
Originally posted by TraBuch:
He's accusing K of covering up two rapes based on rumors and an anonymous source. Awesome journalism.
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Ah Tra, are you suggesting K dismissed the kid based on rumor and an anonymous source?

I mean really, you can't have it both ways, either he was dismissed based on rumor and an anonymous source or K knew for over a year and yet allowed him to play anyway. You tell me, which side of that argument would you like to champion? Trust me, I can have fun with either end of this one! LOL
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I'm suggesting that being dismissed from the team is not proof he raped someone. Is it possible he did? Sure, but dismissal is not proof. He's had a history of behavioral issues, even got suspended for a game last year against Michigan because of it. He showed up out of shape last year, he tends to half-ass it at practice, he pouts on the bench when he doesn't get playing time, he cries on the floor when he misses a shot and the referees don't call a foul on his flop, he shows a lack of sportsmanship, etc. Frankly, he's been one of my least favorite Duke players in recent memory the last couple years, he's kind of a douchebag. Why is it so implausible that K got fed up by all his bullshit and decided he had enough?
 
Well,what comes around goes around,should've kept their pie hole shut laughing at our situation with NCAA.That goes for all other schools such as Moo U and UK.
 
The thing that has always stuck out to me about the Shelden Williams incident is that his coach walked in on it and he was STILL kicked off the team.
I find it hard to believe that a coach would do that to such a highly touted recruit if it was not something much more serious than boys being boys. He must have walked in on something he knew was wrong and unexcuseable...........I have felt that way since the 1st time I read about it.
 
Originally posted by TraBuch:


Originally posted by DSouthr:

Originally posted by TraBuch:
He's accusing K of covering up two rapes based on rumors and an anonymous source. Awesome journalism.
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Ah Tra, are you suggesting K dismissed the kid based on rumor and an anonymous source?

I mean really, you can't have it both ways, either he was dismissed based on rumor and an anonymous source or K knew for over a year and yet allowed him to play anyway. You tell me, which side of that argument would you like to champion? Trust me, I can have fun with either end of this one! LOL
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I'm suggesting that being dismissed from the team is not proof he raped someone. Is it possible he did? Sure, but dismissal is not proof. He's had a history of behavioral issues, even got suspended for a game last year against Michigan because of it. He showed up out of shape last year, he tends to half-ass it at practice, he pouts on the bench when he doesn't get playing time, he cries on the floor when he misses a shot and the referees don't call a foul on his flop, he shows a lack of sportsmanship, etc. Frankly, he's been one of my least favorite Duke players in recent memory the last couple years, he's kind of a douchebag. Why is it so implausible that K got fed up by all his bullshit and decided he had enough?
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How does the incident with the Duke LaCrosse players, compare with the situation with Suliamon?

The LaCrosse team was convicted as soon as word about the incident hit the airways, and there was an obvious rush to judgement by every one in the media, including those in the administration at Duke if I remember correctly, and the action was swift....We remember how that turned out in the end?

Fast forward to this Suliamon incident that happened nearly a year ago, and yet the administration did nothing, the Head Coach did nothing, and the kid was allowed to resume his duties as a student athelete at Duke....Even though, the University of Duke had already dealt with a similar incident in the recent past with the LaCrosse team....Those were rumors too at the beginning!

I guess my question is: Did the University of Duke's rush to judgement against the LaCrosse players, play a role, and cause them to pause this time when faced with a similar accusation to one of their student atheletes?....Thereby allowing Suliamon to continue as if nothing happened at all, while those two girls lived with the fear of someone finding out the truth, which they obviously felt would put them in some kind of danger at the school?....I just wonder how much the school pursued the rumor of this new alledged sexual assault charge against another one of their student atheletes, and how much support did they give the girls who were alledgedy assaulted?
 
Rats! He'll break through again a la Lance, Corey, et al.

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in life there are problems that money can make go away.
dook knows how to take care of this.

given the timing of sullimans dismissal i don't believe these accusations were the reason he's off of the team.
if dook had dismissed him for these reasons they could have had the lacrosse crap all over them again. that cost them 100M.
even with dooks money they can't keep making 100M dollar mistakes.
 
This is a reach...this will be dead in 10 days..If the ladies filed charges we have another issue...what else could Duke and K do without a victim or victims pressing charges..really think K would risk his career over Sulaimon....please...K and his no comment line...he can"t...still a investigation.If something with the girls filing charges does not happen soon it is not out of the question that Sulaimon can sue to get back on the team...If true(allegations) I feel for the victims..Furthermore Sulaimon is still on campus...this is a non story



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If something with the girls filing charges does not happen soon it is not out of the question that Sulaimon can sue to get back on the team...



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Not sure he can go that route. Schools can choose not to renew schollys at their pleasure. There is no right to have it renewed. As far as team dismissal that is pretty much left up to team/coach discretion as to what constitutes conduct deemed detrimental and no court would step into those shoes. Without substantial facts brought to light everything is rumors and speculation.
 
Originally posted by TraBuch:


Originally posted by DSouthr:

Originally posted by TraBuch:
He's accusing K of covering up two rapes based on rumors and an anonymous source. Awesome journalism.
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Ah Tra, are you suggesting K dismissed the kid based on rumor and an anonymous source?

I mean really, you can't have it both ways, either he was dismissed based on rumor and an anonymous source or K knew for over a year and yet allowed him to play anyway. You tell me, which side of that argument would you like to champion? Trust me, I can have fun with either end of this one! LOL
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I'm suggesting that being dismissed from the team is not proof he raped someone. Is it possible he did? Sure, but dismissal is not proof. He's had a history of behavioral issues, even got suspended for a game last year against Michigan because of it. He showed up out of shape last year, he tends to half-ass it at practice, he pouts on the bench when he doesn't get playing time, he cries on the floor when he misses a shot and the referees don't call a foul on his flop, he shows a lack of sportsmanship, etc. Frankly, he's been one of my least favorite Duke players in recent memory the last couple years, he's kind of a douchebag. Why is it so implausible that K got fed up by all his bullshit and decided he had enough?
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So you are saying that the guy was dismissed from the team, NOT FOR RAPE, but because he showed up out of shape and didn't go full speed in practice? Well thank goodness he sucked as a player or there would be additional victims that would have to deal with this the rest of their lives.

Hey, I have a crazy idea of what I think SHOULD have been done. How about suspending the kid when the original incident was brought to the attention of EVERYONE. Put the spot light on him and the second girl would not have to deal with the emotional trauma of being raped.

Now as you know, the issue was more than just rumor, it was way more than that, it was women afraid to come public and report because of the power K's program has on that campus. I am really scratching my head on this one, in what world is being out of shape and lagging practice more grounds to be removed from a basketball team than rape? Evidently it is acceptable in durham, don't drive vehicles that belong to someone else, don't take easy grade classes but Rape, yeah, that is just fine & dandy as long as you do so in shape and work hard in practice?

Because K did not take any action when he was informed of this situation, another girl was raped, but at least he got his 1,000 wins and that is what really matters...
 
Originally posted by mahncpa1:

On DI, they are already saying that krysexski did the honorable thing and kicked Sulaimon off of
the team as soon as he found out about the rapes.
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Well that's funny. Because when they kicked him off the team, the sexual assault rumors started circulating. And the duke fans scoffed at the idea it was because of that. They were adamant that it was due to Sheed being a cancer on the team. So now they're basically admitting that they had no idea why he was kicked off the team despite them all acting like know-it-alls. So excuse me if I don't put any stock whatsoever in what those idiots say on DI.
 
Originally posted by DSouthr:
Originally posted by TraBuch:


Originally posted by DSouthr:

Originally posted by TraBuch:
He's accusing K of covering up two rapes based on rumors and an anonymous source. Awesome journalism.
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Ah Tra, are you suggesting K dismissed the kid based on rumor and an anonymous source?

I mean really, you can't have it both ways, either he was dismissed based on rumor and an anonymous source or K knew for over a year and yet allowed him to play anyway. You tell me, which side of that argument would you like to champion? Trust me, I can have fun with either end of this one! LOL
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I'm suggesting that being dismissed from the team is not proof he raped someone. Is it possible he did? Sure, but dismissal is not proof. He's had a history of behavioral issues, even got suspended for a game last year against Michigan because of it. He showed up out of shape last year, he tends to half-ass it at practice, he pouts on the bench when he doesn't get playing time, he cries on the floor when he misses a shot and the referees don't call a foul on his flop, he shows a lack of sportsmanship, etc. Frankly, he's been one of my least favorite Duke players in recent memory the last couple years, he's kind of a douchebag. Why is it so implausible that K got fed up by all his bullshit and decided he had enough?
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So you are saying that the guy was dismissed from the team, NOT FOR RAPE, but because he showed up out of shape and didn't go full speed in practice? Well thank goodness he sucked as a player or there would be additional victims that would have to deal with this the rest of their lives.

Hey, I have a crazy idea of what I think SHOULD have been done. How about suspending the kid when the original incident was brought to the attention of EVERYONE. Put the spot light on him and the second girl would not have to deal with the emotional trauma of being raped.

Now as you know, the issue was more than just rumor, it was way more than that, it was women afraid to come public and report because of the power K's program has on that campus. I am really scratching my head on this one, in what world is being out of shape and lagging practice more grounds to be removed from a basketball team than rape? Evidently it is acceptable in durham, don't drive vehicles that belong to someone else, don't take easy grade classes but Rape, yeah, that is just fine & dandy as long as you do so in shape and work hard in practice?

Because K did not take any action when he was informed of this situation, another girl was raped, but at least he got his 1,000 wins and that is what really matters...
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A few thoughts . . . . . . . . . . . . Because of the delay, are there other girls, not heard from yet, that were raped?
If you were a parent of a girl that, allegedly, got raped by Suliamon, would you not be jumping up and down at the
Durham police department, dooks Chancellor's office, and/or the District Attorney's office?? I know that if my
daughter was involved, my wife would be going ballistic on someone and I would probably be hunting down
Suliamon myself. I am scratching my head wondering what are the authorities doing and what are the
parents doing???
 
Originally posted by TarHeelMark:
According to ESPN article, the first assualt happenend in Oct 2013 and the second in February 2014. K and his assistants knew about this in March 2014; nearly a year before he gets kicked off the team.

And... "Sources close to the two women told the Chronicle that the women did not pursue school or legal action against Sulaimon because they feared reprisal from Duke's fan base."

Holy crap - this has the potential to blow up big time in K's face if true.
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fact or fiction?...but if that's their reasoning, that's weak...if he did that to them then they should have come forth, but to say backlash from a fanbase, that's suspect..........i do realize that many victims have their reasons of not pursuing their alleged attackers, but this one is a first.....
 
Originally posted by BOOGIEMAN1914:

Originally posted by TarHeelMark:
According to ESPN article, the first assualt happenend in Oct 2013 and the second in February 2014. K and his assistants knew about this in March 2014; nearly a year before he gets kicked off the team.

And... "Sources close to the two women told the Chronicle that the women did not pursue school or legal action against Sulaimon because they feared reprisal from Duke's fan base."

Holy crap - this has the potential to blow up big time in K's face if true.
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fact or fiction?...but if that's their reasoning, that's weak.[/B]..if he did that to them then they should have come forth, but to say backlash from a fanbase, that's suspect..........i do realize that many victims have their reasons of not pursuing their alleged attackers, but this one is a first.....
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From what planet did kay find you?

Women all over America have feared backlash in situations like this.

It could be a star athlete, a senator, or your local police chief.
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Originally posted by PolkCountyBullGator:

Originally posted by BOOGIEMAN1914:

Originally posted by TarHeelMark:
According to ESPN article, the first assualt happenend in Oct 2013 and the second in February 2014. K and his assistants knew about this in March 2014; nearly a year before he gets kicked off the team.

And... "Sources close to the two women told the Chronicle that the women did not pursue school or legal action against Sulaimon because they feared reprisal from Duke's fan base."

Holy crap - this has the potential to blow up big time in K's face if true.
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fact or fiction?...but if that's their reasoning, that's weak.[/B]..if he did that to them then they should have come forth, but to say backlash from a fanbase, that's suspect..........i do realize that many victims have their reasons of not pursuing their alleged attackers, but this one is a first.....
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From what planet did kay find you?

Women all over America have feared backlash in situations like this.

It could be a star athlete, a senator, or your local police chief.
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guess you slightly misunderstood, but yes I agree about backlash etc. senator and etc...but to say the reason is because of a sports fanbase is all I was saying...this is serious, but also bearing false allegations are serious and dragging someone through the mud w/ things that arent true or unsubstantiated is serious as well....reprimanding someone w/o just cause or reason is also serious....charge him and let him get his day in court....just because that article said that fanbase backlash was the reason, that doesn't make the statement true, but as i see, it def stirs up other rival fanbases...WEAK may have been a poor word choice, but yeah there are indeed some wackos in fan bases, but I just don't see SPORTS as a deterrent and in this case a university/college basketball..imo

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Suppose these allegation had been made about a UNC player on Roy's watch. There would be a ton
of UNC fans and/or message board posters that would be blasting the women involved. This is a problem
a lot of times in cases like this. From a man's perspective, I can't even imagine the courage it
takes to come forward and accuse someone of this type of crime. Add in the fact that you
would basically be bringing the spotlight on one of the premier basketball programs and one
of the highest profile coaches in history. It does not take a lot of thought to realize why these
women have remained silent for the most part. If they do make formal accusations to
police, DA, etc.; you can bet that they will be called all kinds of names and their character will be
heavily scrutinized.
 
Originally posted by BOOGIEMAN1914:

Originally posted by TarHeelMark:
According to ESPN article, the first assualt happenend in Oct 2013 and the second in February 2014. K and his assistants knew about this in March 2014; nearly a year before he gets kicked off the team.

And... "Sources close to the two women told the Chronicle that the women did not pursue school or legal action against Sulaimon because they feared reprisal from Duke's fan base."

Holy crap - this has the potential to blow up big time in K's face if true.
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fact or fiction?...but if that's their reasoning, that's weak...if he did that to them then they should have come forth, but to say backlash from a fanbase, that's suspect..........i do realize that many victims have their reasons of not pursuing their alleged attackers, but this one is a first.....
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Agreed... that there isn't much proven to go on right now.

To be clear, I did say "IF TRUE". Even though Duke is our rival, Believe me when I say that I take no pleasure in this situation, as these are serious allegations. All of us on this board have sisters, daughters, etc. that would sicken us if something like this happened to one of our loved ones. So if the article on ESPN's site is correct, and if the allegations are true, then this is going to get really ugly for Duke and K, deservedly so.

That being said, it is entirely possible that the allegations are false and if K heard about them last March but they could not be substantiated, then what else does he or the university need to say or do right now? I suppose that he could say that it was looked into at the time and nothing was confirmed, but I'm sure it's better from a legal standpoint to remain silent at this time.
 
If you think that having legions of "fans" coming after you is not a valid reason for not coming forth to accuse someone of raping you then you obviously haven't been reading much news over the last 5-10 years. Dude, there are "fans" who just this year threatened the life of professional football players for their mistakes on the field. And we're talking about guys who would pound their scrawny hide-behind-a-computer-screen arses into the pavement.

Sorry, but to say some coed's fear that a fan base will come after them if they come forward is "weak" shows that they are right in their fears. Look at how far some of your own will go to defend K and anyone else on the team. "Gerald is a victim here, too" ring a bell? There were people defending that prick to no end and still are to this day. Women accusing athletes of rape are almost always accused of making things up, told they should have known better than to put themselves in the situation to begin with and even told that coming forth would damage the program so they need to "keep quiet". Heck, that same thing happened at Colorado many years ago with the female kicker who accused other players of rape and that was long before Internet trolls.

Just this week we saw how Internet studs went after a 2 year old with a rare genetic disease mercilessly as well as Curt Shilling's daughter. Neither did anything more than put up innocent posts and the trolls came out of the woodwork and yet you think some coed accusing a player on a major Div. I athletic team fearing retribution from the fan base is "weak".

I think we should all wait to see what FACTS come out and I am not going to jump on RS, K or dook until something concrete is proven. I think someone above said it best in that this involves an unspeakable crime that, if proven to be true, will devastate these women for the rest of their lives. As much as I loathe dook, I wouldn't wish this on anyone and I am not going to add to these women's misery by treating this any different than any other rape case not involving a star athlete. But to put that argument out there is pretty pathetic, IMHO.

Sorry, but that kind of logic is usually only seen with knuckle dragging morons like moo fans.

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Originally posted by Littlejon:
If you think that having legions of "fans" coming after you is not a valid reason for not coming forth to accuse someone of raping you then you obviously haven't been reading much news over the last 5-10 years. Dude, there are "fans" who just this year threatened the life of professional football players for their mistakes on the field. And we're talking about guys who would pound their scrawny hide-behind-a-computer-screen arses into the pavement.

Sorry, but to say some coed's fear that a fan base will come after them if they come forward is "weak" shows that they are right in their fears.[/B] Look at how far some of your own will go to defend K and anyone else on the team. "Gerald is a victim here, too" ring a bell? There were people defending that prick to no end and still are to this day. Women accusing athletes of rape are almost always accused of making things up, told they should have known better than to put themselves in the situation to begin with and even told that coming forth would damage the program so they need to "keep quiet". Heck, that same thing happened at Colorado many years ago with the female kicker who accused other players of rape and that was long before Internet trolls.
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Originally posted by DSouthr:
Originally posted by TraBuch:
He's accusing K of covering up two rapes based on rumors and an anonymous source. Awesome journalism.
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Ah Tra, are you suggesting K dismissed the kid based on rumor and an anonymous source?

I mean really, you can't have it both ways, either he was dismissed based on rumor and an anonymous source or K knew for over a year and yet allowed him to play anyway. You tell me, which side of that argument would you like to champion? Trust me, I can have fun with either end of this one! LOL
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Glad you are getting so much enjoyment out of a sexual assault matter.

(I know that's not what you meant, but come on, have some perspective)
 
Originally posted by HeLooks2MuchLikeDave:


Originally posted by DSouthr:


Ah Tra, are you suggesting K dismissed the kid based on rumor and an anonymous source?

I mean really, you can't have it both ways, either he was dismissed based on rumor and an anonymous source or K knew for over a year and yet allowed him to play anyway. You tell me, which side of that argument would you like to champion? Trust me, I can have fun with either end of this one! LOL
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Glad you are getting so much enjoyment out of a sexual assault matter.

(I know that's not what you meant, but come on, have some perspective)
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It was very blatently obvious that DSouthr said he could enjoy taking either side of an argument with TraBuch - which I imagine he could, as either side is an embarassing situation for dook. Not that he was enjoying watching a sexual assault situation play out.

Leave it to the dookies to try to turn this around on UNC fans for "getting enjoyment out of a sexual assault matter". You can't really be that dumb to believe your own twisting of words... or are you?

Now while two wrongs don't make a right, maybe your fanbase shouldnt be so quick to jump on unfounded rumors (UNC academic issue) before all the facts are laid out - if you don't want the same done back to you. We'll see if dook comes out as having done no wrongdoing on the atheltic side (like UNC).

I wish the next dook scandal to pop up after the UNC academic issue was something less serious (recruiting violation, refs on the payroll in Durham, etc.) so that we could really get enjoyment out of it. Unfortunately what happened is far more serious.

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Originally posted by HeLooks2MuchLikeDave:
Originally posted by DSouthr:
Originally posted by TraBuch:
He's accusing K of covering up two rapes based on rumors and an anonymous source. Awesome journalism.
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Ah Tra, are you suggesting K dismissed the kid based on rumor and an anonymous source?

I mean really, you can't have it both ways, either he was dismissed based on rumor and an anonymous source or K knew for over a year and yet allowed him to play anyway. You tell me, which side of that argument would you like to champion? Trust me, I can have fun with either end of this one! LOL
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Glad you are getting so much enjoyment out of a sexual assault matter.

(I know that's not what you meant, but come on, have some perspective)
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Go back and find your "perspective" in derm.
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Originally posted by Hark_The_Sound_2010
It was very blatently obvious that DSouthr said he could enjoy taking either side of an argument with TraBuch - which I imagine he could, as either side is an embarassing situation for dook. Not that he was enjoying watching a sexual assault situation play out.

Leave it to the dookies to try to turn this around on UNC fans for "getting enjoyment out of a sexual assault matter". You can't really be that dumb to believe your own twisting of words... or are you?

Now while two wrongs don't make a right, maybe your fanbase shouldnt be so quick to jump on unfounded rumors (UNC academic issue) before all the facts are laid out - if you don't want the same done back to you. We'll see if dook comes out as having done no wrongdoing on the atheltic side (like UNC).

I wish the next dook scandal to pop up after the UNC academic issue was something less serious (recruiting violation, refs on the payroll in Durham, etc.) so that we could really get enjoyment out of it. Unfortunately what happened is far more serious.

This post was edited on 3/3 1:32 PM by Hark_The_Sound_201
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I haven't made a single comment on the UNC situation. Not one. But I do think the NCAA should resolve the matter and not leave them hanging, and I certainly give Roy the benefit of the doubt. Much respect for him. I personally don't want any sanctions to come to UNC's basketball program because it disrupts the competitive balance of our rivalry. But hey, maybe I am different. Maybe I should be getting joy out of the UNC mess?

In the meantime, let's see what happens Saturday. Should be a fun game.
 
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